Belê, temaşevanên hêja, programa me dest pê kir. Yes, dear viewers, our program has started.
Di beşa xwaya nû da, em ê serdana gundewarê Maratê bikin. In this new episode of ours, we will visit the village of Maratê.
Di vî gundî da jî, em ê gelek hunermend û gelek tiştên hunerî jî nîşanî we bidin. In this village, we will show you many artists and many artistic things as well.
Li benda me bin, beşa me dest pê kir. Stay tuned, our episode has started.
Bi haseb kitab Jabal al-Kurd, al-dirasat al-jughrafiyah fi Afrin... According to the book "Jabal al-Kurd: Geographical Studies in Afrin"...
...yu'taqad anna Marata ism Suryani wa ta'ni al-maghara. ...it is believed that Marata is a Syriac name meaning "the cave."
Amma ahl al-qarya yaqulun anna al-tasmiya ta'ud ila ism al- hakim al-romani Maratinus... As for the villagers, they say that the name goes back to the name of the Roman ruler Maratinus...
...allathi hakama al-mantiqa abban al-hukm al-romani. ...who ruled the area during the Roman rule.
Tem al-ta'arruf 'ala al-qarya munthu akthar min 720 'aman... The village has been known for more than 720 years...
...yadull 'alayha tarikh mudawwan 'ala sakhra kanat mawjuda fi Kahf al-'Arab, Şikefta Ereban. ...indicated by a date recorded on a rock that was located in the Cave of the Arabs, Şikefta Ereban.
Fuqidat tilk al-sakhra munthu akthar min 50 'aman. That rock was lost more than 50 years ago.
Amma al-tarikh al-haqiqi lil-qarya yadull 'alayhi al-mawaqi' al-athariya al-muntashira fi tilk al-qarya wa dawahiha... As for the true history of the village, it is indicated by the archaeological sites spread throughout that village and its suburbs...
...wa al-qura al-muhita biha, mithl Gundê Mazen, Qaziqlê, Xilnêr, Kefir Şîlê wa madinat Afrin. ...and the surrounding villages, such as Gundê Mazen, Qaziqlê, Xilnêr, Kefir Şîlê and the city of Afrin.
Tatba' idariyan ila markaz Afrin wa tab'ud 'anha 5 km. Administratively, it belongs to the center of Afrin and is 5 km away from it.
Kanat lil-qarya basma wadiha fi al-thawra al-suriyya al- kubra... The village had a clear imprint on the Great Syrian Revolution...
...hayth qadima ila al-qarya Ibrahim Hananu lil-tansiq ma' thuwar Afrin lil-musharaka fi al-thawra. ...where Ibrahim Hananu came to the village to coordinate with the revolutionaries of Afrin to participate in the revolution.
Ehlen we sehlen, ji we ra, ji watanê we ra... Welcome, to you, to your homeland...
...û ji vê hezkirina... di nav me da... ...and for this love... amongst us...
...ev hatina we ser seran û ser çavan. Hûn xêr hatin gundê me Maratê... ...this visit of yours is most welcome (upon heads and eyes). Welcome to our village, Maratê...
...ji herêma Efrînê ne. ...from the Afrin region.
Elhemdulilah em gîş hev re rind in. Xwedê hezkirina me zêde bike. Thank God, we are all good with each other. May God increase our love.
İnşallah em ê ji vê çêtir bibin, inşallah Xwedê me gîş ji vê tengiyê derxîne ya Reb. God willing we will be better than this, God willing, God will bring us all out of this distress, Oh Lord.
Wele gundê me bi zîraatê meşhûr e. Well, our village is famous for agriculture.
Bi zîraatê meşhûr e, û teqrîben umrê me bûye heftê heştê sal. Famous for agriculture, and our age is approximately seventy or eighty years.
Elhemdulilah tim hezkirin heye û tim rindî heye. Thank God there is always love and always goodness.
Û îşek tune cem me, û zêde elhemdulilah gîş hevdura rind in. And there is no issue among us, and mostly, thank God, everyone is good with each other.
Ehmed... Mala Henan Elî... Ahmad... The House of Henan Elî...
...ewa sê gund... sê mal di gund da bûn. Maratê sê mal. ...those three villages... three houses were in the village. Maratê was three houses.
Mala Henan Elî, û mala Bêd Xidir, mala Xidir. Û mala Erê. The House of Henan Elî, and the House of Bêd Xidir, the House of Xidir. And the House of Erê.
Evna sê mal, hewa... [unintelligible] bûn. These three houses, they... were [here].
Paşê bûn heft mal. Then they became seven houses.
Ji wan heft malan bûn... yani hêdî hêdî tim pê da zêde bûn û çûn. From those seven houses they became... meaning slowly they always increased and went on.
Elhemdulilah heta nika tim mişkîlet tunene û hezkirin heye. Thank God, until now there are never problems and there is love.
Gundê me gundekî qedîm e û meşhûr e bi zîraatê. Our village is an ancient village and is famous for agriculture.
Meşhûr e bi... bi dar û bi giya, yani bi zîraata me pir rind e elhemdulilah. Famous for... for trees and plants, meaning our agriculture is very good, thank God.
Wele gundê me... gundê me jimej e, pir jimej e. Well, our village... our village is old, very old.
Umrê me bûye heftê heştê sal, teqrîben... ewa kî ez zanim... My age is seventy or eighty years, approximately... what I know...
Berî me bi sed salî ye, bi çi qasî ye, yani... ewa pir qedîm e gundê me. It was a hundred years before us, or however much, meaning... our village is very ancient.
Û kaniya xwe jî... wextê berê kaniya me... And its spring too... in the past our spring...
Kaniya me heft heşt înç, deh înç av hebu. Our spring had seven, eight inches, ten inches of water [flow].
Diçû digihîşt Efrîn û me baxçe jî pê av didan. It would go reach Afrin and we irrigated gardens with it too.
Yani gundekî pir meşhûr e, gundekî pir kîbar e, pir rind e. Meaning it's a very famous village, a very elegant village, very beautiful.
Wele hektar pir e yani. Well, there are many hectares, I mean.
Û ededê gund jî... teqrîben... bi hezar heye yani. And the number [population] of the village... approximately... is around a thousand, I mean.
Jimej e, gund, gund qedîm e, gund pir rind e. It's old, the village, the village is ancient, the village is very beautiful.
Yani mişkîlet têda tunene. Meaning there are no problems in it.
Belê, kanî... Yes, the spring...
Gundekî meşhûr e, rind e yani bi zîraatê, bi gî tiştî. It's a famous village, beautiful, meaning regarding agriculture, regarding everything.
Kanî... heft heşt înç av çêdikir, deh înç av çêdikir. The spring... produced seven or eight inches of water, ten inches of water.
Erdê di Maratê gî pê dihat avdan, heta av digihîşt Efrînê jî. The land in Maratê was all irrigated by it, the water even reached Afrin.
Yani av zêde dibû, diçû digihîşt avê Efrîn. Meaning the water was abundant, it went and joined the water of Afrin.
Gundekî pir meşhûr e, û avê xwe jî pir kîbar e. Avê xwe sehî ye, avê kaniya mezin, jor va re dibêjin kaniya mezin. A very famous village, and its water is very fine. Its water is healthy, the water of the Great Spring, up there they call it the Great Spring.
Pir kîbar e. It's very elegant.
Na, kanî mirî ye wele. No, the spring is dead, honestly.
Berê pir bû av. Before, there was a lot of water.
Gî çêkiribûn bi kevir û... sê şorik têda bûn. They had built it all with stones and... there were three spouts in it.
Û av behr bû maşallah. Belê. And the water was like a sea, Mashallah. Yes.
Bes nika... încek e, înç û nîvek e, du înç in... yani... But now... it's one inch, an inch and a half, two inches... meaning...
Baran jî kêm e. Belê. Baran jî kêm e, bes berê baran pir bû, avê xwe pir bû. The rain is also scarce. Yes. The rain is scarce, but before, rain was plentiful, its water was plentiful.
Xwe av pir bû, zêde pir bû. The water itself was plentiful, very plentiful.
Wele bi meşhûrê... ê pir... pir meşhûr bi zîraatê bûn. Bi pêz bûn. Well, famous... very... very famous for agriculture they were. With livestock.
Tiştî kef di Maratê da ne wek berê... ê pir giya ew bûn. The things in Maratê are not like before... they were very [abundant with] grass and such.
Eseret berê pir neman. The traces of the past didn't remain much.
Berê şikeft bûn, der bûn... ê pir di şikeftan da bûn. Before there were caves, outside... most were in the caves.
Paşê, ba'dî şikefta... yek, du de xanî girtin... têda av bûn. Later, after the caves... one, two built houses... they settled in them.
Û paşê dinya pêşket, qedem... pêşketin... xaniyê hewşê paqij girtin... And then the world advanced, progress... development... they built clean courtyard houses...
Û însan pêşket, rind bû, hezkirin zêde bû. Gundê me mişkîlet têda tunebûn. And people advanced, it was good, love increased. There were no problems in our village.
Û gundekî me, gundekî me jî gundekî pir qedîm e. And our village, our village is also a very ancient village.
Darekî me heye, darekî... vêra dibên... darê Gelberiyê. We have a tree, a tree... they call it... the Gelberiyê tree.
Koka xwe dike deh... pênc şeş mêr destê xwe bidin hevdu, destê xwe nagihînin hevdu. Pir mezin e. Its trunk makes ten... [if] five or six men hold each other's hands, their hands don't reach each other. It's very big.
Dibê du sed sal e, çar sed sal e... ew dara. Pir qedîm e. They say it's two hundred years, four hundred years [old]... that tree. It's very ancient.
De hinek dibên sê sed sal e, hinek dibên pênc sed sal e. Her hinek şurhekî dikin. Some say three hundred years, some say five hundred years. Everyone gives a different explanation.
Fi al-qarya akthar min 500 manzil wa 'adad sukkanuha 3000 nasama taqriban... In the village, there are more than 500 houses and its population is approximately 3000 people...
...bima fihim al-muqimin fi al-duwal al-kubra wa al-mahjar. ...including those residing in major countries and in the diaspora.
Tantashir fi al-qarya 'adad min al-manazil al-qadima min al- khashab wa al-tin wafqa nizam al-qantara... A number of old houses made of wood and mud according to the arch system are spread in the village...
...wa aqdam hathihi al-manazil huwa manzil al-sayyid Sheikh Zakariya wa aydan al-sayyid Hajji 'Izzat. ...and the oldest of these houses is the house of Mr. Sheikh Zakariya and also Mr. Hajji Izzat.
Welle navê min Şiyar e, Şiyar Mihemed Şêxo ji gundê Maratê me. Well, my name is Shiyar, Shiyar Mihemed Shexo, from the village of Maratê.
Û tişt, wanê tiştê turas, ê kalê me ne dihêwinim. And things, those heritage things, belonging to our ancestors, I collect.
Mesele, heba... turasê bav û kalan henda nebe. Tiştê kevn, wekî carcar heye... For example, so the heritage of fathers and grandfathers doesn't disappear. Old things, like there is the threshing sled...
Melêbêdarî ne, şixre ne, tiştê, ana, tiştê kevn. Ê turasê, ê kalê me ne. Carcar heye meselen. Wooden plows, harrows, things, you know, old things. Heritage, belonging to our ancestors. For example, there is the threshing sled.
Edwatê zira'î hene, ê menzîlî hene. There are agricultural tools, there are household ones.
Wekî zira'î, ê berê pê kar dikirin meselen. Şûnê fatos û dar e... Like agricultural ones, that they used to work with in the past, for example. Instead of lamps and wood...
Û ê menzîlî, tiştê baqil kevn, wekî tiştê textîn e, fişekî dê we... pê berê dawçê dikirin. And household ones, old copper things, like wooden things, cartridge belts... they used to go hunting with them in the past.
Heve. Û ê din jî... heywan cem me heye. Tawûs in, mirîşk in, qumrî ne, hew şokûçik in, tiştê ana heywan e, em pê tesela dibin. That's it. And the others... we have animals. Peacocks, chickens, doves, and just small things, animal things like that, we find comfort in them.
Em ê xwe pê diqetînin. We pass our time with them.
Û ê din jî, sê jî... hewş... min ana çêkiriye ji xwe ra wekî nofûra tê de hene, tenûr heye min çêkiriye, firne, weke şiklê wekî turasê berê ye. And the other thing, thirdly... the courtyard... I have built it for myself, like there is a fountain in it, there is a tandoor I built, an oven, like the shape of the heritage of the past.
Em tê de nanê darê dikin. Me'neya berê tînim bîra xwe. We make bread on wood fire in it. Bringing the meaning of the past to my memory.
Heve li cem me. That is what I have.
Welle vî tiştî em ji kalê xwe elimîn. Meraqê... hewa ji kalê min jî wey bû, hewildana tiştê ana hez dikir, em jî elimîn. Well, this thing we learned from our elder. The passion... my father was also like that, he loved collecting things like this, we also learned.
Ma, me 'eyb dît nebe jî, em qişkê xwe, pêş qişkê xwe dikin. So, even if it wasn't seen as shameful, we follow our roots.
Hem şî heve, qişkê me, û cîlî 'acar zane be. Bîr nebe, turasê me yê Kurmancî bîr nebe, mentîqa 'Efrîn bi şeklê 'am bîr nebe. Everything is this, our roots, and so the new generation knows. So it isn't forgotten, so our Kurmanji heritage isn't forgotten, the Afrin region in general isn't forgotten.
Û gundê Maratê jî, anê berê da, bi henar û... ew jî zeytûn û... anê tiştê ana, rez û... And the village of Maratê, in the past, with pomegranates and... also olives and... things like that, vineyards and...
Karê xwe pê dikirin. Noke ê pir zeytûn in, û ard a diçînin meselen. Xidre ye, genim e, tiştê ana diçînin. They did their work with them. Now, most are olives, and they plant the land, for example. Vegetables, wheat, things like that they plant.
Ê esas heve li cem me, Maratê. This is the main thing with us, Maratê.
Tişt pir e, hema du tebeqe, ben hezar û çarsed qite' li cem min e, kevn. There are many things, about two floors, there are about 1400 pieces with me, old ones.
Min tişt pir kirîye. Û ê din jî, ê kalê, ê malê kalê min in ma wanînan. I have bought many things. And the others belong to the elders, to my grandfather's house, remaining like that.
Û pir ehbaba jî ji min ra wanînan. Ehbab dîtine cem min, zanîbûn meraqê min vî şî heye, anê tiştê bav û kal li cem min didan min. And many friends also brought them for me. Friends saw them with me, knew I had a passion for this, they gave me the things of fathers and ancestors.
Niko bile li cem te be te mehfeze bike. Firotanê, em nafiroşin. Saying, "Let it be with you, you preserve it." As for selling, we do not sell.
Em dikirin, em nafiroşin. Ev o tişta, me'neya hinda nebe. We buy, we do not sell. These things, so the meaning doesn't get lost.
Ez li cem xwe mehfeze dikim. I preserve them with me.
Welle tişt, kevn min got pir e yek. Ê didiyê, tiştê ê kalê min e avayê pir. Ê malê kalê min e. Well, things, old ones as I said are many. Secondly, things of my grandfather are very many. Of my grandfather's house.
Wanê meselen, xanîk û qabîk û kevn ebî min ji ê derxist. Like, for example, old roofs and arches and things, I took them out from there.
Û ê hin hene min kirîn. Û hin hene ehbaba dan min. Wanê cem gunda yek qite' hene didin min. And there are some I bought. And some friends gave to me. Like in the village someone has a piece, they give it to me.
Û pir hene nûfer... anê em didin te, hinek jî xozin jî, pera didin min. Nadin, em dikirin. And many are... "we give to you", some ask for money, they give to me for money. If they don't give, we buy.
Û ê tûlê jî em nafiroşin em. Em li cem xwe mehfeze dikin. Ev o turasê me yê 'Efrîn e em mehfeze dikin. And these tools, we do not sell. We preserve them with me. This is our Afrin heritage we are preserving.
Wanê em tikî bifiroşin, em nafiroşin. Heta em kanin, em kom dikin. Em na... bifiroşin. Like, if we were to sell a piece, we won't sell. As long as we can, we collect. We don't... sell.
Habo turasê me ma hinda nebe. So that this heritage of ours doesn't get lost.
Em ji qişkê xwe ra li dû dirin. Te dît, me yê oda ji xwe ra çêkiriye, oda ji textî ye, me tê da me danînan e. We follow our roots. You saw, I built a room for myself, a wooden room, we placed them in it.
Wanê em her derê, ewa dibe em tê da rûdinin. Em... wanê pir ewa dibe, em pir dûr darin. Like, everywhere, whenever possible we sit in it. We... like it happens a lot, we go very far back.
Welle ev o esas text, û tiştê kevir çêkirin, text û axî, ev o tiştê kevn dide, me'neya wî çêdikim. Well, this basic wood, and things made of stone, wood and earth, this gives the old feeling, I create its meaning.
Wanê ev jî wek turas e. Wanê e noke gev... kevirê meselen, kevirê nehît e, a... Like this is also like heritage. Like now... stone for example, cut stone...
Na, ev o text xêr e, ev jî kevn dide. Ê didiyê, ez bi xwe çêdikim, ev o giş şuxulê destê min e. No, this wood is better, it also gives an old look. Secondly, I build it myself, this is all my own handiwork.
Meselen wekî firnê min çêkirî, tenûr e... Wanê ev o wekî nofûra, ez noke kora î min e, ez bi xwe çêdikim. For example, like the oven I built, the tandoor... Like this fountain, it is my work now, I build it myself.
Text e, yan ko kevir, ev o karê min e. Ez bi xwe tê de dişuxilim. Keherebe, av, karê min e esasî ye ev o. Wood, or stone, this is my work. I work in it myself. Electricity, water, this is my main work basically.
Û ê din berhem çêdikim, bi texta, dara... wanê text, ev o yek şê... wanê pir kevn dide, me'neya wî çêdikin. And the other I produce, with wood, trees... like wood, this is one thing... it gives a very old look, we create its meaning.
Meraqa me ser text pir e, we axê bû. Our passion for wood is great, and it was earth.
Dayîm xaniyê me çêbî, em kanîn xanîk axî wekî berê çêkin. Wanê dîrekî û axî. If we build a house, we can build an earthen house like before. Like with pillars and earth.
Noke çikî wez'ê me ne ewa. Now, our situation isn't like that.
Welle min pirr got, evî tiştî çêdikim... Well, I said a lot, I make this thing...
Eb heyata berê pê dihesim. Se'a me ne dît, bes ez pê dihesim min kirî vî karî. I feel the past life with it. Although we didn't see it, but I feel it, having done this work.
Hewa me'neya wî ye. Wanê, ewa min heve. Wanê wekî kalê min berê em noçûbûn xanêt axî bûn, textî bûn. That is its meaning. Like, my desire is this. Like my grandfather before, we hadn't gone... they were earthen houses, wooden ones.
Wanê ez pê dihesim, êş bûm ro 'eyşî me. Like I feel it, I lived that day of our living.
Ê ewa min, ewa min pir heve. That is mine, that is my great desire.
Fenan hene, wanê klamcî, tembûrcî gunda heye, me'rûf e, gundê me da hene. There are artists, like singers, lute players in the village, it's known, there are some in our village.
Bes vî tiştî turas, kes teneqey min nade hewan. Ê tenê dihewînim. But this heritage thing, no one competes with me. I am the only one keeping it.
Bes wekî din hene gundê me da, 'uyla hene... tembûrê, klamê, ma'rûf in evna, malê Çawîşler fêra dibên. But otherwise there are in our village, families... of the lute, of songs, these are known, they call them the house of Chawishler.
Havno hene. Û necar tê da hene, tişta çêdikin. Those exist. And there are carpenters in it, they make things.
Bes vî tiştî turas, ano tiştî kevn, kesî nade hewan. But this heritage thing, these old things, no one keeps them.
Da noke dihewînin, ez nizanim. Whether they keep them now, I don't know.
Mistefa Ebdulrehman Ose ji Maratê. Mistefa Ebdulrehman Ose from Maratê.
Berê, xet a em dîtin e... ta'nîya me ê xerbî dond. In the past, the line that we saw... our side, the western side.
Ta'nîya xwe da... ponzeh îçe bû. Heta fidanê destê... In its side... it was fifteen inches. Until the saplings of the plain...
Dikirin pembû havînê, û av pir bû. They planted cotton in the summer, and water was plentiful.
Dirim. I'm going.
Em dîtine, îsta pembû diçandin, da şandin av didan, rind bû. We saw it, now they planted cotton, they sent water, it was good.
Dûra... av tune bû. Yane din di pef da. Ya bi çerxê, ya bi qudusa, diçûn av ji ta'nê danîyan. Later... there was no water. Like, inside the struggle. Either with wheels, or with buckets, they went and provided water from the side.
Tincê xwe, deryê xwe disistin, diçûn bi be'l, de de serê xwe disistin. They washed their pots, their outsides, they went with containers, washed their heads.
Av danîn bi... ya bi çerxa... ya zî bi sê serî... ya zinetê danîya. They provided water with... either with wheels... or with three heads... or ornaments they placed.
Ê dûra... bîr çêbûn. And later... wells were made.
Noqta danî me, çapîn sê du mar e. We put a point, [using] Shahin number three.
Hele mar tê bîra te heye... Is the "Mar" still in your memory...
Mebhaza çêbû, me ev o xeta sana ba'dayê... em vê dixînin, da îstembêt istîxaf tin veda xin daetin. The press was made, we... this line... we drive this... it was better.
Çêtir bû. It was better.
A dîsta me, malê me nêzîkî we darê mezin bû, we palûte. Ma zu darê 'îdê. Ah, I saw, our house was near that big tree, that oak. Our press worked quickly during Eid.
Sibê 'îdê, du roj, sê roj, çar roj 'îdê... Morning of Eid, two days, three days, four days of Eid...
Dadî da tin, hêlê da didan, ê sibê ba tana, heta nîvê şevê xwo, xê dikişandin, da tirin, eb wem yanê destê merê li bin tûndûz in û mêrava. They gave force... until morning came, until midnight, they pulled the line, they brought out, with men's hands under the... and the water channels.
Didûtan dorê 'îdê. They smoked around Eid.
Malê me rûr bû, ma'sera me ya zindî bû. Our house was deep, our press was active.
Wanê çend nefer lê dixebitîn, zêt derdixistin, bi hewa heywanan. Like several people worked on it, extracted oil, with the aid of animals.
Bergîr bûn, hêstir bûn, hesp bûn. There were mules, there were mules, there were horses.
Zeytûnê wan hindik bûn. Zeytûnê me yên... yanî kalê me, babê me, kalê me, zeytûn çêkirin. Their olives were few. Our olives of... like our grandfather, our father, our grandfather, produced olives.
Ê zeytûna... The olives...
Mesele, diçûn çuwal danîyan, de berê mûsim zê hano hindik bû ê zeytûna. For example, they went and placed sacks, back then the season was small like this for olives.
Ê bavê no, meselen, ditirrin, 'atî 'aresa hebû. Û xota ditirrin e. The fathers, for example, brought them, there was a courtyard. And they brought the lines.
Û dihêran. And they ground them.
Zê sîn da wetî... ewa hebû, zenbîla, ditirrin e. Then... there was that, the baskets, they brought them.
Seda diwan bi badanê bû. Mandane. Neb dexte bû. One hundred, two hundred were by twisting. Manual. Not by pressure.
Îsta zêt he da derxistin, da ditirin. Now they extract oil there, then bring it.
Dûra... Then...
Însan ştê pêst e. Zeytûn pir bû, milt pir bû, matbez çêtir in. Humans are skinned. Olives were plenty, harvest was plenty, the presses are better.
Matbez çêtir in... The presses are better...
Matbez, se çuwal, disê çuwal, sê se çuwal datînê em bên, rind bû. The press, a hundred sacks, two hundred sacks, three hundred sacks they put, we brought, it was good.
Ê ma hono dî... yanî berê dî ya ma'serê me hebû, û yek li o cîwê da ma'sere dewr hebû. And we saw like this... like before we saw our press existed, and one in that place, the press had a role.
Teb'en zeytûn zî hinda t'in we çaxê. Îsta wa zêt bû ma'serê bû. Of course, olives also disappeared at that time. Now that oil belonged to the press.
Faroze, maroze tune bûn. Ê zêt têtin no benî, zêt tastî tinda sero didirtin. Separators didn't exist. The oil came... the oil... on top they spilled it.
Ê zê da derxistin. Ê nota ma'ser, matbez disale vdare zeytûna te lê tê... And they extracted the oil. And like the press, the press... olives come to you...
Derê we da zêt li farozê te detê teneka to. In that place, oil comes from the separator into your tin.
Yane pir rind bû. Like it was very good.
Yanî heya tîrmehê sê heban cismê dinê de, behs dikin, dihat û diçû, ew axa doniya, destê Xwedê re xwarin, wek heban çi dibûn, bi qudreta Rebê Alemê. Evro dibêjin ziyareta Xidir Êlyasî... Meaning, until July, regarding the three grains in the body of the world, they talk about it, it would come and go, that soil of the world, eating by the hand of God, how the grains would form, by the power of the Lord of the World. Today they call it the shrine of Khidr Elias...
Ziyareta Xidir Elî... yanî ziyaret bû. Baran mesela biharê tê da bû... Tê da bû baran ne dibariya... yanî... tê bîra min em dihistine, alemê mesela duwemê roj înê herin xêrûberat, deware, berxa, mîllet ser jê dikirin. The shrine of Khidr Ali... meaning it was a shrine. For example, rain would come in the spring... It would come, [but if] rain did not fall... meaning... I remember we used to leave it, for example, on the second Friday, people would go for charity and blessings, [sacrificing] cattle, lambs, the people would slaughter them.
Û ban Rebê xwe, alemê dikirin... yanî... we rûyî ellim baran pê dibariya, xêr û bereket baran dibariya. Haaa, va hebû. And they would call upon their Lord, the world [people] would do it... meaning... upon that face [for the sake of that], rain would fall, rain of charity and blessing would fall. Yes, this existed.
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[Arabic] معراتة، قرية كبيرة تتميز ببنائها بشكل متصاعد من الأسفل إلى الأعلى، فوق سفح جبلين متقابلين. Ma'arata, a large village distinguished by its construction rising progressively from the bottom to the top, upon the slopes of two facing mountains.
[Arabic] يجاور القرية وادي يدعى الوادي العميق، "Galyê Kûr". وفي القرية وبجوار النبعة شجرة بلوط معمرة، يناهز عمرها الأربعمائة عام. Adjacent to the village is a valley called the Deep Valley, "Galyê Kûr". In the village, next to the spring, stands an ancient oak tree, nearly four hundred years old.
[Arabic] ذات ساق ثخين يحتاج إلى أربعة أشخاص ممدودي الأيادي ومتماسكين حتى يتمكنوا من ضم ساق الشجرة بأكملها. It has a thick trunk that requires four people with outstretched arms holding hands to be able to embrace the entire trunk of the tree.
[Arabic] في القرية معصرتين قديمتين، دشنتا داخل كهفين من الكهوف المنتشرة في القرية. In the village, there are two old presses, inaugurated inside two of the caves scattered throughout the village.
[Arabic] عرفت هذه القرية أيضا بشخصيات فنية ومهنية وتراثية. منهم علي رمزي عازف البزق، وأيضا محمد رمزي، عازف البزق والنجار والحلاق. This village was also known for its artistic, vocational, and heritage figures. Among them, Ali Ramzi, the Buzuq player, and also Muhammad Ramzi, the Buzuq player, carpenter, and barber.
[Arabic] خالد بكر، عازف بزق متألق. وأيضا المايسترو علي، والمشرف على الأجهزة الصوتية في المناسبات والأعراس. والمطرب التراثي عبد الرؤوف. والفنان المتألق محمد جاويش. Khalid Bakr, a brilliant Buzuq player. Also Maestro Ali, the supervisor of sound equipment at events and weddings. And the heritage singer Abdulraouf. And the brilliant artist Muhammad Jawish.
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[Arabic] وأيضا هاوية جمع التراث الزراعي والتاريخي، يشار أحمد شقلي. العائلة المتألقة بالرقص الفلكلوري والفردي، عائلة رشيد ريبي. And also the amateur collector of agricultural and historical heritage, Yashar Ahmed Chaqali. The family brilliant in folklore and solo dancing, the Rashid Ribi family.
Ehlen wa sehlen, eleykum selam. Ez Ehmed Ebdilrehman Ebû Şiyar, jimara tê, tewelûd 56. Ez bixwe mwezef bûm li Heleb. Welcome, peace be upon you. I am Ahmed Abdulrahman Abu Shiyar, my number [referring to ID/reg], born in '56. I was personally an employee in Aleppo.
Me kar kir, em badî em teqawid derketin, em fitilîn hatin gundê xwe rûniştin. Badî em li gund rûniştin, de me kar kir, em vir de çûn, wê de çûn, em şkora misê kirin, em de aciz bûn. We worked, and after we retired, we returned and settled in our village. After sitting in the village, we started working, going here and there, we did some pruning/tree work, and we got annoyed [tired].
Wa çaxê êzing jî hebûn, kûtkê zeytûna. Me got ka em şkora... wele kêserkî me hebû, çakûç me hebû. Yanî karê... ewê mijî tune bû bixwe, va tiştî ne şixulî me, ne caran ne şixulî me. At that time there was firewood, olive stumps. We said let's do the pruning... well, we had a [dull] saw, we had a hammer. Meaning the work... there wasn't even a proper saw itself, we hadn't worked on this thing, we hadn't worked on it before.
Mi şkora derxist û eşkora rû bi rû me, derdixist, wa pê te seleh dibûm, va tiştan min rid derxist. Wek pênc şeş meh e tê de şixulî me ji va tiştî de. Erê. I brought out the pruning shears and openly faced it, I brought it out, I was fixing it up, I brought these things out. It's been like five or six months I've been working on this thing. Yes.
Û hav tiştî me çêkir, tiştê ji eslen hewa ê berê... ê kolkê me, va tişta pê ow dikir, gi dar lûxe, gi şixre ye, gi hefcar e. And we made these things, things originally from the past... our plowing/stubble tools, they used to do that with these things, whether it's the wooden roller, the wooden harrow, or the plow beam.
Yanî berê dîrektor tune bûn, bi cot û bi dewar dajotin. Şixre... dîrektor û der tune bûn, bi dewar dîsa şixre ow dikirin. Meaning, in the past, there were no tractors, they plowed with a pair [of animals] and cattle. The harrow... there were no tractors or threshers, again they used cattle to do the harrowing.
Gi genim e, gi nîsk in, lê bar dikirin, dianîn ser bêderê. Cercer hebû... cercer jî me pê dewar, girêdida, me pê hûr dikir. Mehnî genim e, gi nîsk in, gi nok in, me pê dihêra. Işta va tiştana hebûn. Whether wheat, or lentils, they loaded them and brought them to the threshing floor. There was a threshing sled (cercer)... we tied the threshing sled to the cattle, and we crushed [the crops] with it. Meaning wheat, or lentils, or chickpeas, we ground/threshed with it. So, these things existed.
Dergûş heye, dergûş ê textî bûn. Berê qîçik çûçik dikirinê, dihezandin, darda dikirin. Pê işta, pê disekinîn. There is a cradle, cradles were made of wood. In the past, they put the small children in it, rocked them, hung them up. With that, they stood/stayed.
Ew tune bû dest... berê va... ewê dask, hedîs, destar genim bikutan û derbixin. Tûmaq me çêdikir ji... avê kefir... me dikuta, menî wa kepeka jê derkeve. There was no... in the past this... that sickle, iron, hand- mill to pound the wheat and extract it. We made sheaves from... [unclear, possibly place name or material]... we pounded it, meaning so the chaff would come off.
Me paşîngê delûb hebû, paşê destar hebû, me dihêra, wa genimê, badî me kelandin, me hûr dikir, dikir bilxur, menî işta xwarinê. Later we had a delûb [winnowing/cleaning tool], then we had a hand-mill, we ground it, that wheat, after we boiled it, we crushed it, made it into bulgur, meaning, well, for eating.
Eyy, hewa yek, yek, tiştê me yê kevn e. Wele xweşiya xwe tenê hewa me gîş darê zeytûnê hew kir. Kutek min dipaqijand, çi cî, vî mîsekir [mûşekir], neqlekê min hane kutek paqij, mîsekir ji cî da, wekî neqşa derdikeve. Yes, that is one, one of our old things. Well, its own beauty, we just finished with the olive trees. When I cleaned a stump/trunk, what a place, I pruned this, once I cleaned a stump like this, pruned it from the spot, it comes out like a painting.
Mîgî kutkê zeytûnê min dipaqijand û min ji wa kutkê zeytûnê çêdikirin va... ewna. I cleaned/polished the olive stump, and from those olive stumps I made these... those things.
Mara... berê kanî hebûn. Kaniya Maratê me‘rûf bû, digot ew henarê di Maratê. Berê di Basûtek dageriyan, henarê Maratê me‘rûf bûn. Kaniya xwe av pir bû, jiber dima, diçû teva Efrînê dibû. Mara[te]... in the past there were springs. The Spring of Marate was famous, they spoke of the pomegranates of Marate. In the past, they went down to Bassouta, the pomegranates of Marate were famous. Its spring had much water, it remained over, it went and flowed into the Afrin river.
Ê de henar hebûn, wa çaxê. Paşîngê de henar hişk bûn, dar bûn. De her yek arta gî fitilîn bûn zeytûn. Berê va zeytûna tune bûn. Me nûq diçandin, me bîstan diçandin, yanî de va kara me dikir. Em li gund rûniştî bûn yanî wa çaxê. So there were pomegranates at that time. Later the pomegranates dried up, became wood. So everyone turned their land into olives. In the past, these olives weren't there. We planted chickpeas, we planted vegetable gardens, meaning we did this work. We were living in the village, meaning, at that time.
Ê, badî ew bûn, noqan erd nema, gî bûn e zeytûn, û gî kask, kar mar jî nema. De her kes berdabûn, yek çû li Heleb şkora şixulî. So, after that happened, there was no land left for chickpeas, it all became olives, and all green, there was no work left. So everyone left, one went to Aleppo to do pruning/work.
Û dîsa ehbab, cîran, hewa li hene, em dihatin cem hev de, em tên bêvarê em şkora rûdinin, em weraqa dilîzin, yanî... em lefdê rûdinin. Em hezkirin zêberê çêtir bûye. Elhemdu lîllah, rind e. And again friends, neighbors, those who are here, we would come together, we come in the evening, we sit like this, we play cards, meaning... we sit together. Our love [for each other] was better than before. Praise be to God, it is good.
Wele hene. Hene yekî din heye, bixwe berber di şixulî. De hew jî va kîrê çêdike, biçqo destgirtê biçqo çêdike, yanî cota, qol, molan, hene, şixre û cota çêdike. Yanî tişt miştan çêdike. Well, there are. There is another one, he works as a barber himself. He also makes these things, he makes small handles for knives, meaning plows, armrests, etc., they exist, he makes harrows and plows. Meaning he makes bits and bobs.
Û heye jî yekî din, Ehmed Ebû Şiyar, vê re dibêjin... Ehmed Şiyar heye. Hew jî tiştê... gav... me yê kevn, esasî. Gî va tiştana kom dike, turasê me, di kal û... kalê di me. Gi mi cem heye, va tişta heye. Ê hew jî wa tiştî kom dike. And there is also another one, Ahmed Abu Shiyar, they call him... There is Ahmed Shiyar. He also [collects] things... steps... our old, essential things. He collects all these things, our heritage, of our grandfathers and... our ancestors. It is with me, these things exist. So, he also collects those things.
Na, ê... ihtîmamê xwe em dibêjin, mehnî qişke bila bizanibin, va cîlê ecer derdikeve, zanibin berê me çi kar dikir. Bi çi tûnî me va kara dikir, yanî. No, the... our interest, we say, meaning let the kids know, this new generation that is coming out, let them know what work we did in the past. With what difficulty we did this work, meaning.
Hewa mehnî bimîne turasê me yê Kurmanc, cî kî em pê dişixulîn e. Gi şixre ye, va tiştana işta, gi yekî kevn e berê. That implies that our Kurdish heritage should remain, the place where we worked. Whether it's the harrow, these things now, or any old thing from the past.
Ez dixwazim em ji hevdu ra rind bin. Em wekî ew tî, em gi bi hevdu ra yek bin. Wekî ew tî, gi li ser mirikê ye, li ser dawetê ye, li ser naxweşiyê ye, em li hevdu wenxwin [werin xwedî], em hevdu ji bîr nekin. I wish for us to be good to each other. Like that, that we may all be one with each other. Like that, whether it's at a funeral, at a wedding, or during sickness, let us look after each other, let us not forget each other.
Û tiştê berê em ji bîr bikin... gi berê çi hebû, wa tiştî em ji bîr bikin. Tiştni ecer em pêda bikin û pê da herin. And the things of the past, let us remember [lit: forget, but context implies 'recall' or he misspoke and meant 'let's not forget']... whatever existed in the past, let us remember those things. Let us create new things and move forward with them.
Ez Can, babê Remzî, meqamê turaz ji we xwestin, emê daxin jêra... Xemê Zalim. I am Jan, father of Remzi, you requested a heritage Maqam, we will play for it/you... "Cruel Sorrow" (Xemê Zalim).
Pêşkêş dikim ji bo... Mihemedê Elî Tijo... ji bunyana gundê Hesen Dêra, hezar rehmet li gora wî be, û li hecî meytê te hazira be. I present this for... Muhammad Ali Tijo... from the buildings/foundations of the village of Hesen Dêra, a thousand mercies be upon his grave, and upon all the deceased of you who are present.
Wî jî xoşgir Xemê Zalim. Em kanibin bibêjin, ji wî dama Xemê Zalim. Ax Xemê Zalim... He also liked "Xemê Zalim". If we are able to sing/say it, we give "Xemê Zalim" for him. Oh, Cruel Sorrow...
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Bi xêr hatin. Welcome.
Bi xêr hatin ser çavên me. Ez ji gundê Maratê me, berîkiya ji malê Çiwîş im. Ez Elî lawê Remzî Xaçê me. Bavê Remzî. You are welcome upon our eyes. I am from the village of Maratê, from the section of the Çiwîş family. I am Ali, son of Remzi Xaçê. Father Remzi.
Hûn bi xêr hatin ser çavên me. You are welcome upon our eyes.
Fena cem me, yanî di bav û pîrên me de, em pê dazin dikin... aîla me bi şiklê giştî em ji fen hez dikin. Çimkî mezinê me, em guhdariya fen dikin. Ciyê destê me dan tîşandin. Art among us, meaning among our fathers and grandfathers, we boast of it... our family generally loves art. Because our elders, we listen to art. They made our hands sore [playing].
Yanî di aîla me de, hinek dibêjin dengbêj... hene... dengbêj... em karin bêjin... mekin hene. Meaning in our family, some say 'dengbêj' (bards)... there are... bards... we can say... there are experts.
Tembûrvan jî jê çêdibin. Tambur players also come from them.
Tembûrvan di aîla me de pirr in. There are many tambur players in our family.
Ê... hîwa ye ev xwa... ev xwa hîwaya coka... di hîsê me de hatiye çandin, va mûsîqa xwa. Uh... it is a hobby... this hobby... this music itself has been planted in our feelings.
Mûsîqa jî yanî... alek jî hez dike mûsîqa. Mûsîqa rinde yanî. Music as well... people also love music. Music is good, you know.
De men... ez bi xwa... ez gîştimê bavê min kilamcî bû, Xwedê rehma xwa lê ke bavê min Remzî Xaçê, bavê min Remzî. So I... personally... when I reached [that age], my father was a singer, may God have mercy on him, my father Remzi Xaçê, my father Remzi.
Bapîrê min Ehmedê Reşo, bavê min bi xwa kilamcî bûn. My grandfather Ehmedê Reşo, my father himself were singers.
Ez di sefê didûyê sêsê bûm diçûm mektebê... ez elimîm... yanî meraqa tembûrê... hîwaya tembûrê bi min girt û min deqet pê girt, berber me da. I was in the second or third grade going to school... I learned... meaning the interest in the tambur... the hobby of the tambur seized me and I focused on it, it pulled us forward.
Bavê min dida kilama... me guhê dida... em jî elimîn toraz jî, em jî elimîn mûsîqa jî... em elimîn fen yanî. My father used to sing songs... we listened... we learned the traditional songs, we learned music too... we learned art, basically.
Û pêşiya me giya yanî... qonmiş fen û mûsîqa dibûn. And before us... they were engaged in art and music.
Hîwa ye yanî... ev tiştekî, aîla me di hîsêiyayê de hatiye çandin. It's a hobby... this is something, in our family, it has been planted in the feelings.
Me bi kêr helanî? Me bi giyayê helanî? Did we pick it up by utility? Did we pick it up naturally?
Yanî... me bi pirra ra... pirr cimeet hatin cem me û em jî pirr çûn pirr cimeeta... Meaning... we with many... many gatherings came to us and we went to many gatherings...
Berê giya, em elimîn va kilamê toraz. First of all, we learned these traditional songs.
Û... hunerek... me ji Elî Tico rehmetî jî, ciyê wî dinê be, ji wî jî me zêde dikirî, hinek tiştin wî jî di hîsê me de hatin çandin. Hez jê tê heye, xweş... yanî... maqamê xweş wê hebin. And... an art... from the late Elî Tico too, may his place be paradise, we benefited from him too, some of his things were planted in our feelings. There is love for it, good... meaning... he had good maqams.
Me ji wî jî girtin, ji xelkê dinê jî... ji Cemîl Horo me jê birin... We took from him too, from other people too... from Cemîl Horo we took...
Me guhdariya wî jî kir, me tembûr jî jê bir û me... lehnê kilama jî me jê birin. We listened to him too, we took the tambur [style] from him and we... took the melody of songs from him.
Elî Tico, em rûniştin, em pirr ba rûniştin, bes vê taliyê em bi hev re rûniştin... ê... berê dihat gundê Maratê. Elî Tico, we sat [together], we sat together a lot, especially lately we sat together... uh... he used to come to Maratê village.
Heta em kanin bibêjin jî, em ji dûr de xaltiya hev du jî tên. We can even say, we are distant maternal cousins.
Yanî... fen, ya heyatê ji her yekî re vedike. Û hewa ciwaniyê te ye. Meaning... art, it opens life for everyone. And it is the atmosphere of your youth.
Ya... ji êşa derbirîn... hewayê birîn, mûsîqê di wî, kilamê di wî... ya ji Elî Tico, ya ji Cemîl Horo, Xwedê rehma xwa lê kin... kî cimeeta hazira be. Or... to express pain... the air of the wound, the music in it, the song in it... whether from Elî Tico, or from Cemîl Horo, may God have mercy on them... whoever is present in the gathering.
Ê hîwa ye, meraq e. It is a hobby, an interest.
Yanî mûsîqa ta her... û fenê te jî tebe'en heye. Û hîwayê ji her... kanê ji her yekî re çêbibe. Meaning music is always... and your art naturally exists. And the hobby... can happen for anyone.
Ê min ez li mal lê dixim. Ba zewac çêdibin, wekî we tên cem min, ez lê dixim. As for me, I play at home. Sometimes marriages happen, [people] like you come to me, I play.
Ba dawet dibin, diwacînin ez darim. Sometimes there are weddings, they invite me, I go.
Fenan nînin hene... yanî fenanîn ji aîla me de hene... wek din kes pirr fenan tune ne di gundê me de. There aren't [many] artists... meaning there are artists in our family... otherwise there aren't many artists in our village.
Mihemed Şo, Wehîd... lawê xalê min e... Evana kalê Tirkiyê ne. Mihemed Şo, Wehîd... my cousin... They are the old ones of Turkey.
[Muzîk] Maratê, we haven't seen an owner, we have been in the village. Meaning we haven't seen an owner, we were in Maratê. And until today, Marat is ancient. The world is old, you know. And the village, we haven't seen an owner, we were with the villagers.
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Lê vurxûnê, vurxûnê... Oh Vurxûn, Vurxûn...
Delalê şur şêrînê... Beautiful one, with the sweet face...
Lê vurxûnê, vurxûnê... Oh Vurxûn, Vurxûn...
Delalê şur şêrînê... Beautiful one, with the sweet face...
Xeyrê ji te min nabîne... I see no good from you...
Wer derman ke birînê... Come, cure the wound...
Şurxweşê şurşêrînê... Pleasant faced, sweet faced...
Xeyrê ji te min nabîne... I see no good from you...
Wer derman ke birînê... Come, cure the wound...
Lê vurxûnê, vurxûnê... Oh Vurxûn, Vurxûn...
Şurxweşê şurşêrînê... Pleasant faced, sweet faced...
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Lê vurxûnê, vurxûnê... Oh Vurxûn, Vurxûn...
Delalê şur şêrînê... Beautiful one, with the sweet face...
Lê vurxûnê, vurxûnê... Oh Vurxûn, Vurxûn...
Delalê şur şêrînê... Beautiful one, with the sweet face...
Xeyrê ji te min nabîne... I see no good from you...
Wer derman ke birînê... Come, cure the wound...
Hingivê tevlî rûn e... [You are] honey mixed with butter...
Zerka te bi kûr ve nîne... Your paleness is not deep...
Ziravê hatim mala we... Slender one, I came to your house...
Silav çûyî te ne da min... I greeted, you did not give me [a reply]...
Min dît deka te li min kir... I saw the trick you played on me...
Dibê xanê ez nas nakim... She says "Dear, I don't know you..."
Çima kî ye vayî kalê... "Why, who is this old man..."
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Belê, ji gundewarê Maratê, ji yên kevneşopî û tiştên kevnar... Yes, from the countryside of Maratê, from the traditions and ancient things...
Me îro li vî gundewarî jî gelek tiştên kevnar dîtin. Today, in this countryside, we saw many ancient things.
Û me gelek hunermend jî nas kirin. And we met many artists as well.
Li benda me bin, di beşek nû de ji bernameya me... Stay tuned, in a new episode of our program...
Yê gundê me. "Yê Gundê Me" (Of Our Village).
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