Êrû, bi xelekekê nû ji bernameya gundên welat, ez Rûliyan Hac Ehmed me, û ji gundekî nû, ligel we me. Today, with a new episode of the program Villages of the Country, I am Rulian Haj Ahmed, and I am with you from a new village.
Vê carê ji me berê xwe da gundên ser sînorê Tirkiyê. This time we headed to the villages on the Turkish border.
Û bi taybet gundê Jêrê dibêjin, Meydanê. And specifically to the village called Meydane.
Ev gund, gelekî nêzîkî sînorê Tirkiyê ye û ji gundên bi ser navçeya Raco ve ye. This village is very close to the Turkish border and is one of the villages in the Rajo district.
Bi me re bimînin, em ê derbasî nav gund bibin, û li vî gundî gelek tiştên nû û nê bibînin. Stay with us, we will enter the village, and see many new things in this village.
Bi me re bin û li me temaşe bikin. Stay with us and watch us.
Temaşevanên me yê hêja. Our esteemed viewers.
Dema ku me berê xwe gund, gundê Meydanê gelek tişt lê heye. When we headed to the village, the village of Meydane has a lot of things.
Niha em dixwazin bêtir ji we re nas bidin. Now we want to introduce them to you further.
Ji ber çi me berê xwe da ev gund... Why did we head to this village...
Niha li vî derî xaloyek heye. Now here is an uncle.
Tiriyê dicivîne, ev tiriyê ji rezan tînin, û dicivînin... em ê jê bipirsin. He is gathering grapes, they bring these grapes from the vineyards, and gather them... we will ask him.
Vê karî çi wextî da dikin, û bi manî çi vî karî dikin. What time do they do this work, and for what purpose do they do this work.
Merheba xalo. Hello uncle.
Ehla wesehla. Welcome.
Çawa yî? How are you?
Çawa yî? Thank God.
Çawa yî? How are you?
Xweda te bihêle. May God protect you.
Sax bî. Be healthy.
Em te nas bikin navê te? Let's get to know you, your name?
Behrî Bekir. Bahri Bakir.
Ji gundê Meydanê ye? From the village of Meydane?
Ji Meydanê me, belê. I'm from Meydane, yes.
Xalo weke ez dibînim, tiştên temaşevanên me yê hêja... Uncle, as I can see, what our esteemed viewers...
Ka te çi dikî? Yes.
Ka te çi dikî? What are you doing?
Wele em ji mehsere de geriyane, taba em tiriyê tînin em dicivînin. By God, we are moving around the press, of course we bring grapes and gather them.
Em tînin dicilivînin. We bring them and press them.
Em dikin şerbet. We turn them into syrup.
Belê. Yes.
Û em dikin helevê. And we turn it into halva.
Em dikelînin... We boil them...
Hm... Hm...
Û em dibin dikin pelûl. And we take them and make them into pelul.
Em pêşî suciq dikin. We make sausage first.
Havo havo bi xwe vî tirî yan cureyê wî çiye? What is this grape or what is its type?
Cureyê wî dikolkanî, lemî ye ha. Its type is dikolkanî, it's lemî.
Yanî hesren ev cure hûn dikin pelûl? So exclusively this type you make pelul out of?
Na. Tiştekî dî jî dibe, bas divê reş nebe... No. Other things also work, but it shouldn't be black...
Belê. Yes.
Tîrî reş nabe bas... The black grape doesn't work well...
Xalo çend sal e te vî karî dikî? Uncle, how many years have you been doing this work?
Wele... bi teqrîben... 20 sal in ha... By God... approximately... 20 years now...
Hm. Hm.
Bas bav û kalên me jê dikir, yanî... But our ancestors also did it, I mean...
Belê. Yes.
Taba wan jî... na bi vî rêkê... Of course, they too... not in this way...
Dimaşandin... They used to press it by walking on it...
Naha havo vê derî we a niha çêkiriye, havo xusûsî ji bo vî tiştî ye? Now, this place you've built now, is this specifically for this purpose?
Xusûsî ji bo vî tiştî ye ewa... It is specifically for this purpose...
Belê. Yes.
Heta pêşî zimêgî ne, namêşê, derkeve, derve yî mehsere. Even before, the place where grapes were pressed by walking on them didn't exist, it would come out of the press.
Belê. Yes.
Û hawa çiye? And what is this?
Heve mekeney e. Em ê nuka têkin, û bi esirînin. This is a machine. We will put it in now, and squeeze it.
Avê wê lê derxînin taba. They extract its juice naturally.
Havo piştî te avê korî obdî vê derê ra do dikavî? After you press it, the juice falls out from here?
Da dikavî we... It falls out yes...
Wê minî te dikî we... Then you do this...
Ewa. Yes.
Gî ji dar xînî pak bikî ewa. I mean, you extract all the juice...
Gî ji dar xînî pak bikî ewa. You extract it all and clean it, yes.
Belê. Yes.
Spasiya te dikin xalo. We thank you uncle.
Ha... Yes...
Bextê te xweş bî. Good luck to you.
We te jî xweş, ehle wesehla. And to you too, welcome.
Bi qenata Warşê, zor spas. To the War channel, thank you very much.
Belê, temaşevanên me yê hêja. Yes, our esteemed viewers.
Niha em li gundê Meydanê ne, ji vê sibehê de em di nav Suncuqan de mane. We are now in the village of Meydane, since this morning we have been among the Suncuq (sausages).
Ev gund gelekî navdar e bi suncuqên xwe. This village is very famous for its suncuq (sausages).
Niha bavê pêşmerge bi me re ye, wê ji me re behsa suncuqa bike, bi çi awahî te çêkirin û çi dikin. Now the father of a Peshmerga is with us, he will talk to us about the suncuq (sausage), how they are made and what they do.
Merheba bavê pêşmerge. Hello, father of the Peshmerga.
Ser serê min ser çavê min, bi xêr hatin Meydanê. You are very welcome, welcome to Meydane.
Ser serê me. Welcome.
Çawa yî ta sax bî? How are you, are you healthy?
Gelek spas. Thank you very much.
Berî em warin mesela suncuqa kevin... Before we get into the topic of the suncuq (sausages)...
Em dixwazin ji te bizanibin. We want to know from you.
Ev xalo, dizanim navê te Şaban e. This uncle, I know your name is Shaban.
Şaban e, Şaban Şêxo. It's Shaban, Shaban Shekho.
Belê. Yes.
Kurê te navê wî pêşmerge ye? Is your son's name Peshmerga?
Belê. Yes.
Çima te navê pêşmerge li kurê xwe kiriye? Why did you name your son Peshmerga?
Ez, ji saniyekê ve ra parêz im, yanî welatê xwe hez dikim. I am a patriot since a long time ago, I mean I love my country.
Yane min nedixwest ez ji gund derim. I mean, I didn't want to leave the village.
Mecbûr bûm, da bavê min çûn Awropayê, ez jî pê re çûm. I was forced to, my father went to Europe, and I went with him.
E min dît kû jî rê be ez vegerim welatê xwe. When I saw a way, I returned to my country.
Çûm wirê min cinsiye girt. I went there and got citizenship.
Min şeş hanî ser, ez feda dikim ji bo vira. I got it in six months, I dedicate it to this place.
Min go xêr, fitilîm sal zewicîm, qîçek kêm çêbû sal bi duwê lo ez kêm navî kurdî, pêşmerg lê kim. I said no, I came back, got married, had a child after a year or two, I will give him a Kurdish name, Peshmerga.
Hege red dikin ha se red dikin çi dikir ji me kir. Whether they refuse it or not, whatever they do, we did it.
Hatim virê Elhemdulîlah, şukur ji Xwedê re... I came here, Thank God, thanks to God...
Yane ew wijdana min, min navî kurdî, Pêşmerg lîna... I mean, out of my conscience, I gave him a Kurdish name, Peshmerga...
Û heta pê kînê me ra çûm nizamê ez saş lam. And even I went to register it in the regime.
Yanî seqeşat û xurtşûr e, dîsa nizam e yanî beşe... I mean, with courage and strength, even though it's the regime, it's fine...
Bê şik, ef xeterefek, we pê kir yanî navê Pêşmerg... Without a doubt, there's a risk, doing this, I mean naming him Peshmerga...
Min Cinsiyeta Almanyî jî ji virê derxist. Navî kurê xwe Pêşmerg. I also got the German citizenship from here. My son's name is Peshmerga.
E, vir e jî, fesaîl e jî min derxist, êê muharade jî min derxist yane navî kurê xwe Pêşmerg lê kir... And here, I also got him registered with the factions, and the opposition, I mean I named my son Peshmerga...
Maşallah cinsiyeta Almanî ye tu rabû navê Pêşmerg... Mashallah, the citizenship is German and you named him Peshmerga...
Erê! Yes!
Û te di gel cam nizamê te jêr nefes derxist bi navê Pêşmerg, û li vî derê jî te derxist? And you even got an ID for him from the regime with the name Peshmerga, and here too you got one?
Navê, sê e sê. The name, in all three.
Mana tamo bese ha raya Kuridstanê ye. So it means all are just for Kurdistan.
Ma e Kurdistanê ya te ye. It's your Kurdistan.
Maşallah. Mashallah.
Şaban Pêşmerg e. Shaban Peshmerga.
Xwedê jê ta ra bihêle. May God protect him for you.
Te jî, te jî. For you too, for you too.
Emê naha werin bahsê Suncuqan bikin. Now we will talk about the Suncuq (sausages).
Ka bi zanibin, bi çi waxtî do çê dikî? Let's find out, what time do you make it?
Suncuqê me, bas tirê dest pê dibe... mehê... mehî dahanî me'rûfe b tiran... Our Suncuq, as soon as the grapes start... in the month... the tenth month is known for grapes...
E Tirê jî bîstî mehê... bîstî heştan dest pê dibe. And the grapes start on the twentieth of the month... the twenty-eighth.
Bîstî haştan da, em dest pê dikin, heta bîstî meha do. We start on the twenty-eighth, until the twentieth of the second month.
Dawiya pênciyan nuha mîhi dihê em dest pê dikin em dikin Suncuq. At the end of the fifth, now in the tenth month, we start making Suncuq.
Yane em dimisê dikin... Suncuq çêdikin... yane... çû tiştekî xe sene nadikin. I mean, we make molasses... we make Suncuq... I mean... we don't do anything else.
Bes e ev me korî me ye... ê muhim Suncuq e... This is our work... the most important thing is Suncuq...
Û îsal jî, alhemdulîlah, yane rêka Heleb vebî, yanî Sûrê... And this year too, thank God, I mean the road to Aleppo opened, I mean Syria...
Dikanin tezbîrî dar wek in... You can export it out...
Dibin. Me niha kanî. Em dikin çêdikrin, bes vira me, edmî, me na turasê me handa nabe... They take it. We couldn't before. We made it, but here, it's just that our heritage shouldn't be lost...
Havo bxo... ji turasê... em bêjin, Efrînê yê? This itself... is from the heritage of... let's say, Afrin?
E e Efrînê e. Yes, yes, of Afrin.
Belê. Û çî çê dikin weyî? Yes. And what is this made of?
Ha bo bi avî tîrîye. This is with grape juice.
Neqo hebo tişto hona tişt tabî'î yê. %100. These things are natural things. 100%.
Yane... neh... ê av, am dikanî... em nişekir dikanî... ev tiştekî na kanî... I mean... no... we don't put water... we don't put sugar... we don't put anything like that...
Heta pîkî nîk giyê ser îr bi hecî, bi qûşkî, bi êzingî am di kêlînin... Even boiling it on the fire, with a pot, with wood, we boil it...
Û tê dibînî ew tiştî darva, îşte ew lam ye. tiştekî teke ew a qerş dar, a li mi dikive tiştî tebî'î ewe. And you see this coming out, it's that. The only thing is that the debris that falls in it is natural.
Wey. Yes.
Î me amelo bise, ewe, tiştek din e. Tu zanî te sfî e... Doing it with a factory, is something else. You know it's pure...
Û em dixwazin yane ev tişta jî, hinda nebe. And we want this thing not to be lost either.
Û niha qasî ser, sê kê, nehsed 'amel... And now about, three, nine hundred workers...
Bi yek korî dikin... ps, yek korî yane daîşan, qiçkê xodi daîşan. They are doing one job... this one job is making a living for them, they are making a living for their kids.
Despêkê havo... na'u ektira, miheded hî t'pî çêkê? At first... is there a specific type of grape to make it with?
Nî... No...
Î spî, mesele ê du gûlgan, em piriya, du gûlgan, mi me reqî, mesele ev du gûlgon in, û hebdikî won in... The white ones, for example, the du gûlgan, we usually use the du gûlgan, the hard ones, for example, these are du gûlgan, and those are hebdik.
Ev piriya, du gûlgonî we ro dibîn. We mostly use the du gûlgan.
Belê. Yes.
Ava tirî ye genda, zer e, paqij e, û şerbetê xwarinê em vî tirî çêdikin. This kind of grape juice, is yellow, clean, and we make food syrup with this grape.
Un tînin... dicilvînin? Do you bring them... and press them?
E... em tînin diclevînin... Yes... we bring them and press them...
Wekî me dîtîya nakî xolû wî derî diclevandin... Like we saw earlier, the uncle was pressing them there...
E nîne. Yes, they do.
Helbet min, amala tûben tere dicilvînin... Of course, workers press them there...
Raziya me ev e... This is our satisfaction...
Em tînin vira, em dibin mehsere, ava wê şerbeta tîne der. We bring them here, we take them to the press, and bring out its syrup juice.
Nav wê şerbeta, de bî, deke... qazqa. In that syrup, it is put into... a cauldron.
Qazqoyê te em kelandin... We boiled it in the cauldrons...
Em tim serdixebitin safî nakin... keqî, gumarî serdixwîdin... tişt bikin tiş dikin heta, rûn dikelin... We always work on it without filtering... foam, impurities on top... we do things to it until it boils clear...
Paşî am dîn nakardê... de safê... Then we bring it here... into a filter...
Avî tiriye, safî bin, nî dibîne û tê... ew ki gê tirî heyî... gemariyek terî ji har dar bi ne... The grape juice, it gets filtered, as you can see and it comes... whatever is in the grapes... a bit of impurity comes out...
Em wî avê, em dikin... qazqe... em dikin satile... em pûştî dikin xelî... We take that juice, we put it in... the cauldron... we put it in buckets... we later turn it into molasses...
Ewira ji bo em de safîne dekin zizo kî ro de safînin... There to filter it, we filter it quickly...
Em dikin hele... hele jî... nîşê ne. Şerbetê Xwedê kû em ser kirî ye... We make halva... halva is... starch. The syrup from God that we have made...
E... ta dî, yanî... nişê... Yes... you saw, I mean... starch...
Havo devilegi tîre bibe... This must become thick...
Havo no havo tiştê di hîlê awbe, ya nî warî, ti me warê meyandin... This is the thing that makes it like that, I mean when we make it thicken...
Poşî nîşê jî, bi nîşê em dimeyênin. Then the starch too, we thicken it with starch.
Me yanşî da palûl çêdibe, yeki min, yeki ewa darna yeki... We let it sit and pelul is formed, one of mine, one of his...
Hao tîr dibe... It gets thick...
Tîr dibe. Û vrî gûzê wek me da birko xistine... ev gûzno ta dî ta em... It gets thick. And here the walnuts like we have put on strings... these walnuts as you saw...
Erê mi dît dîze û dikrin... Belê. Yes I saw they string them... Yes.
Û boy û nî gûzno û ni dkî nî çi? And for this, these walnuts, what do you do with them?
Ah, ev goza nan texrîban yanî bîst naqlan... dav pêşk naqlan bîst naqla te em nav vî halî kefê derkevê, ev nav wê pelûlê kefê, darkevê... Ah, these walnuts are dipped approximately twenty times... fifteen to twenty times we dip it in this halva and take it out, dip it in this pelul and take it out...
Em tên vira ser cergo dar dixe ne... mana rûpî dê balî xê. Ma nê hêş be be... We come here and hang it on the racks... so that the layer sticks. So that it dries...
Çen ro on dêl in... How many days do you leave it...
Ha bo taxrîben... şeş rû... şeş roj am pî peylîyê xînin. Well, approximately... six days... six days we dip it in the pelul.
Bextî pelîliyê... çar ro... pênc ro em dihin banî dêhen, hşdibin. Çu e fêde hîn geh daxê. After the pelul... four days... five days we take it to the roof, they dry. There's no point if you take it down early.
Û peşî jî em qul dikin, dikin mxora, û em dibin sûkê. And then we puncture it, put it in bags, and we take it to the market.
Hene kelane... maslen de kîlo xwastin e, telebetê çikok xwastin e... bala dikin. There are boiling ones... for example they wanted kilograms, they wanted small orders... we fulfill them.
Û e din jî em dibin sûkê em didin tucaran. And the rest we take to the market to give to merchants.
Esker ek diyor inda? A specific price?
Wele... sorî çûyî me, kîloyî weyî tam wira bi heşt tûman... evo gu sare be sedo guze... hawo de deh dulara me di dedin. Well... our red ones, the price of the complete one there was eight tomans... this one is a bit more than a hundred walnuts... they give us ten dollars for it.
Ge heso gere ke da du dular do sê dulara am dedin... If there's a problem they give us twelve dollars, thirteen dollars...
Wek ta wutî sûriyê vbî, yone orîta tesdîr we? Like you said Syria is open, I mean is it already exported?
Înşallah ev har e... yanî îsonî dî... îsonî xijî. Hopefully this is everywhere... I mean the next person... the next person too.
Yane tiştî t'abîatî de heskî zane çi a wa, yanî ne kir e... na yikî way tirkîya mesela ge ma'amal yek bi şeker der e... I mean if they like natural things they know what this is, I mean it wasn't bought... not like Turkey for example, if there's a factory it's with sugar...
Belê. Yes.
Haho kana xor e. Gêj bi çakir û ger û der dikî. This is a food channel. They confuse it with sugar and all that.
Bê çakire. It's sugarless.
Kusera gu... The deficiency is that...
Tiştê me yê berê, em diçûn nav, wek nanê xwe û tiştên xwe. Our things from the past, we used to go in them, like our bread and our things.
Belê. Yanî wekî kîsên naylon nîne. Însan jê naxweş nabe, derd nabe. Yes. So it's not like plastic bags. A person doesn't get sick from it, it doesn't cause illness.
Ne wek wî ye, ev her tişt. Derman e û bi qedr e. Belê. Yanî tiştê tebîî maye, wisa bi me ye... It's not like that, all these things. It's medicine and it's valuable. Yes. I mean, the natural things remain, it's with us like this...
Tê de maye wisa terî ye... ev hejîr in e, tiştên wilo ne, tebîî. It stays inside it fresh like this... these are figs, things like that, natural.
Belê. Û xelk jî, însan jî, gundî fêrî... Yes. And the people, the humans, the villagers have learned to...
Gundî fêrî bûn e ev tiştên tebîî dixwin. The villagers have learned to eat these natural things.
Li ser esasê... berî vê ha hezar sal, deh hezar sal, daxwazîya tiştên tebîî dikin. On the basis of... a thousand years ago, ten thousand years ago, they demand natural things.
Te got ev a... ev wê çaxê ev alav in... You said this... these were tools back then...
Em ev e di nav bav û bapîrê xwe de ev alav in... wisa teslîmî me kirin. Em jî noka teslîmî keçikên xwe dikin. We have these tools from among our fathers and grandfathers... they handed them down to us. And we are now handing them down to our daughters.
Ev tiştên noka... bav û bapîran... te ji kîjan salê de hîn bûye... fêrî te bû? These things now... from the fathers and grandfathers... from what age did you learn... did it come to you?
Ez deh, donzdeh, çardeh salî, fêrî bûm. I learned it at ten, twelve, fourteen years old.
Ji wê çaxê ve... û heta noka tu çêdikî? From that time... and up until now you've been making them?
Heta noka ez çêdikim. Up until now I've been making them.
Û tu ji bîr nakî? An wisa di mala we da? And you don't forget it? Or like that in your house?
Na welle... ez ji bîr nakim. Yanî wisa malê... tiştên tebîyetê hez dikim. No, by God... I don't forget. I mean in the home like this... I like things of nature.
Yanî ser... wisa ro ro... yanî civat, me xelkî wisa girêdayî ye. I mean on... like day by day... I mean the community, our people are connected like this.
Yanî me ev qedrê me... ev tiştek muqedes e. I mean this is our value... this is something sacred.
Yanî însan, wek însan... mirov tiştek de nabe, tiştek nabe wisa, mirov xizmetê... ehmeqiyê nake, wisa xizmet welatê xwe. Yes.
Yanî însan, wek însan... mirov tiştek de nabe, tiştek nabe wisa, mirov xizmetê... ehmeqiyê nake, wisa xizmet welatê xwe. I mean humans, as a human... one shouldn't be anything else, shouldn't be like that, one should serve... shouldn't act foolishly, but serve their country like this.
Belê. Yes.
Emrê mirov dema ku bi terbiye ket, wek evî mirov ev şanaziye û ev qedr û qîmet e. When a person's life is disciplined, for such a person, this is an honor and this is a value and worth.
Yanî însan, gerek e sax be, xizmeta weletê xwe bike. I mean a person, must be healthy, must serve their country.
Wan tengî jî dîtin, me heps jî dîtin, me kotek jî dîtin, me gelek tişt dîtin... Elhemdulillah em nexweş neketin. Em di nav axa xwe de ne. They also saw hardships, we saw prisons too, we saw beatings too, we saw many things... Thank God we didn't get sick. We are inside our own land.
Em nihan kê werin... te got em e ev sunciq xilas kirin... wisa wek amade kirine... Û tu wisa dibêjî çend cûreyên tirî hene... we çi jê çêdikirin... em werin ser cureyên berîkî. Let's come to this now... you said we finished these sujuks... they have been prepared like this... And you say there are a few types of grapes... what did you make out of them... let's come to those types earlier.
Cureyê tirî... li cem me... wî yê taybetî ye... navdar e. Ew e Dûkilkan... The type of grape... at our place... it's a special one... it's famous. That is Dûkilkan...
Dûkilkan, belê. Dûkilkan, yes.
Ew tiriyê Dûkilkan manê, wisa wek şîrîn e û xur e... yê girs e. Yê zer e. That Dûkilkan grape means, it's sweet like this and crunchy... it's the big one. It's the yellow one.
Ev a mirovên me jê pir hez dikin, dixwazin li cem me. This is the one our people like a lot, they demand it at our place.
Û yê hevdî... ê duyemîn. And the other one... the second one.
Ê dî jî, ê Dûkilkan hem dibe sunciq, hem dibe dimis, hem dibe basteq, hem dibe qerme, yanî tu dikarî hemî tiştan pê çêkî. The other one too, the Dûkilkan can become sujuk, it can become molasses, it can become fruit leather, it can become qerme, I mean you can make everything with it.
Û ewê din jî... yê dudiyan? And that other one too... the second one?
Ew a yê... Mûş e. That is... the Mush one.
Ew tirî hûr e? Is that grape small?
Na tirî girs e, ewa zû dibe. Berî yê Dûkilkan, bi deh, panzdeh rojan ewa dibe. No, the grape is big, it ripens quickly. Before the Dûkilkan, by ten, fifteen days it ripens.
Û diçe sûkê... wisa wek daxwazên xwe teleba wê heye... Yes.
Û diçe sûkê... wisa wek daxwazên xwe teleba wê heye... And it goes to the market... like this there are demands for it...
Cureyên din jî hene... Yê Şamî heye... Sûr heye... Yê Xel heye... Yê Şîyî heye... Yê Xoce Elî heye... Belê. There are other types too... there is the Shami one... there is Sur... there is Khel... there is Shiyi... there is Khoje Ali... Yes.
Cure pir in. Yê Devêran heye. There are many types. There is Deveran.
Cûreyên wî pir in. Bes ev wisa du cûre, sê cûre, ev di nav me de, wek ew yê hene ev in. Its types are many. But these two types, three types like this, these are among us, like the ones we have are these.
Te got ji xeynî van, wekî van suncûqan... we çi jê çêdikirin? You said besides these, like these sujuks... what did you make out of them?
Em dimis jê çêdikin. We make molasses out of them.
Dimis... Molasses...
Dimis çêdikin. Sunciq çêdikin... ew a basteq çêdikin. They make molasses. They make sujuk... they make fruit leather.
Û wisa wek şev ew jî wisa dibe. And like this in the evening that gets made too like this.
Karê me sunciq e. Belê. Em jî her kes karê xwe dike. Her wext ew e ev sal jî dîsa... em wisa milletek dî... ew e daxwazên xwe yên tebîî... ew yê nav bav û kalan da wisa bînin. Our work is sujuk. Yes. We too, everyone does their own work. Every time it's this, this year again too... we like this another nation... it's our natural demands... bring back the ones from among the fathers and grandfathers like this.
Bastiq jî îsal yê çêbikin înşelah. God willing they will make fruit leather this year too.
Û yê din te got... mûşî... And the other one you said... the mush...
Em wisa... kanin bêjin çar tiştan jê çêdikin... Ev e, tirî ye... em nizanin... tiştek dî yê tirî. Em wekî... We like this... we can say we make four things out of it... This is it, it's grapes... we don't know... another thing of grapes. We are like...
Wekî ku Pêşmerg gotiye, ewqas bi navdar e... wî qedrê wî... giran e, muqedes e... ji sîncûqê çêdikin... û yê mûşî çêdikin, û yê dimis û tirî, û qerme û basteq... û hîn çi dibe jê? Ev e... ev pêncem e... As Peshmerg has said, it is so famous... its value... it is heavy, it is sacred... they make from sujuk... and they make the mush one, and molasses and grapes, and qerme and fruit leather... and what else comes out of it? This is it... this is the fifth...
Dimis, mûş, qerme, sunciq, û basteq. Molasses, mush, qerme, sujuk, and fruit leather.
Basteq. Ev pênc tişt jê çêdibin. Belê. Spasiya te dikim, xaltîk... saeta te xweş be. Fruit leather. These five things are made from it. Yes. Thank you, auntie... may you be well.
[Muzîk tê lêxistin] [Music playing]
Belê temaşevanan, me hêja... naha em jinûva hatin. Wekî we dîtîye destpêkê li vê derê evê şîvê çêdikirin... Navê ev şîva te we... Yes dear viewers... now we have returned anew. As you saw at the beginning, they were making this dish right here... The name of this dish of yours...
Qabilme. Qabilma.
Qabilma. Destpêkê hewîr strên, paşê teşt hûr kirin... naha jî em li vê derê pehn dikin û amade dikin. Qabilma. First they knead the dough, then they chopped up the pan... now we are flattening it here and preparing it.
Em wekî bi xaltîk re bipeyivin. Em naha qabilma çêdike... naha em destpêkê, merheleya yekem te dît wek wisa we dît. Karê te li vir çi ye? Li vê derê tu çi dikî? Let's talk with the auntie. We see she's making qabilma now... now at the beginning, the first stage, you saw how it was. What is your job here? What are you doing here?
Karê min... ez wek... wanî çêdikim... wek nanê wê çêdikim. My job... I like... I make these... like I make its bread.
Em wisa dikin... wek amade dikin. We do it like this... like we prepare it.
Em amade dikin... û ev ya naha em lê dikin, xweya em dixin navê... yanî tu xaltîk we wisa navê xwe, ewê haşwê we jê çi çêkiriye? We prepare it... and this that we are doing now, the salt we put inside it... I mean you auntie, this stuffing of yours, what did you make it from?
Vê haşwê em wek dimisa îsotê ye... sîr e... goşt e... pîvaz e... paşê dimsa îsotê, xwe ye... û îsot e, zeyt e. This stuffing we like, it has pepper molasses... garlic... meat... onions... then pepper molasses, salt... and pepper, and oil.
Û wek xaltîk... em na ev... ne wek ew... hûn avê tê de nakin? And like auntie... we don't this... not like that... don't you put water in it?
Na, em avê nakin, em wisa dikin... wek dimisa em tiştekî din nakin. No, we don't put water, we do it like this... like molasses we don't put anything else.
Rind dibe... berê dema me zarok bû, di pêşiya wî da em hîn bûn, em jî çêdikin. Tiştekî... ew gelerî ye, gelerî. It gets good... in the past when we were children, in front of them we learned, and we make it too. It's something... it's traditional, traditional.
Ev wê... li deverê we wek şîveyek e gelerî ye. Dê xaltîk, hûn carna wisa tiştekî goşt dixin... pehn dikin... wek em... wek çi goşt dixe? This is... in your region like a traditional dish. So auntie, sometimes you put some meat like this... flatten it... like we... what kind of meat do you put?
Na, em berê wisa dikin... naha wisa em nakin wek wisa em dîn. No, we used to do it like that before... now we don't do it like we used to.
Em wisa mezin, wek weha wek we pehn nakin. We don't flatten it large like this, like you do.
Em wek qendavîşa... wisa em wisa dikin. Naha em dê çêkin... We like flatbreads... like this we do it. Now we will make it...
Wek ku wê gotiye... Xaltîk li vir derê pehn dike... ne? As she said... Auntie is flattening it here... right?
Xaltîk ew... li vê derê paqij dike, dixe... Wek we dîtîye wisa ew wek dipêçe... Auntie this... she cleans it here, puts it... As you have seen like this she wraps it...
Pêşî wisa datînin li ser sêlê, sêl li ser agir e. First they put it like this on the griddle, the griddle is on the fire.
Ev fîstanê te... ev kincên efrînî ye? This dress of yours... are these Afrin clothes?
Erê. Yes.
Fîstanê te, bi qasî çend sal e ev tu wisa li xwe dikî? Yanî fîstanê te wek Efrînî ye. Te ew li ku derê çêkiriye? Your dress, for about how many years have you been wearing this? I mean your dress is like an Afrin one. Where did you make it?
Min ew li Helebê çêkiriye... me, qîzên me hene, wisa wek ewan wisa çêdikirin... ew jî li Helebê ne... min heta naha wisa, ez hez dikim... I made it in Aleppo... we, we have girls, like them they were making it like this... they are in Aleppo too... up until now like this, I like it...
Yanî herim Şamê, herim Helebê, li gund jî wisa em li xwe dikin. I mean whether I go to Damascus, or go to Aleppo, in the village too we wear it like this.
Û ev şarpa te... te wisa hûn bi xwe didî serê xwe? And this scarf of yours... do you put it on your head yourself like this?
Hez dikim, erê. I like it, yes.
Em dibînin ku qumaş e... tu... hûn tenê li vir di gund da li xwe dikî? An... te wisa... We see that it is fabric... you... do you only wear it here in the village? Or... you like this...
Na. Xwe nakin... kes nake. Bes ez bi xwe li xwe dikim. No. They don't wear it... nobody does. Only I wear it myself.
Naha we... li gund tiştek wisa nabînin... wek wan fîstan jin li xwe nakin? Now you... don't see such a thing in the village... women don't wear dresses like those?
Na welle... xwedê dizane... wisa kêm me tiştek ne zêde ne wek wan dikin. No, by God... God knows... like this we have very little, not many do like them.
Xaltîk em werin ser karên te û hevalên te wek we di wî karî de... tu çi dikî? Em... wek ev paqijkî wek ev çêdikî? Auntie, let's come to your work and your friends like you in that work... what do you do? We... like this cleaning, like you make this?
Ev çêdikim... ez ew dî wisa girk çêdikim. I make this... I make that other one like this, the round bread.
Em werin ew wek gundîyan... em wisa em biaxivin ew bi jinên wisa gund. Ew jinên wisa li gund wisa... çi karî dikin? Let's come to those like the villagers... let's talk like this with those women of the village. Those women in the village like this... what kind of work do they do?
Jin welleh li gund... Î heye... karê dar û cilan e... şuxul e. Lê hinek... karê malê xwe çêdike... û ew dî wisa yê din nakin. Lê jinên... ne ku wextê berê... daxwazên xwe naxwazin... û wan jinên xwe neşînin karê derve. Women, by God, in the village... Some of them... it's the work of wood and clothes... it's a chore. But some... do the work of their homes... and they don't do those other things like that. But women... not like the past times... they don't want their demands... and they don't send their women to outside work.
Belê. Dema hûn diçûn karê derve we çi kar dikirin? Yes. When you went to outside work, what work did you do?
Em paletî dikir. Em diçûn zeytûna... em tiştek dî dexlûdan me dikir. We did harvesting. We went to the olives... we did other things like grains.
Xaltîk, qey wek em naha... tu yekê ew wisa pehn bikî, em lê temaşe bikin, wek tu wî çawa çêdikî? Auntie, maybe like we are now... could you flatten one like this, so we can watch it, like how do you make it?
Belê wisa. Yes, like this.
Heta tu... te tu tiştek dî te gotî wek ez ew wisa destên xwe pê kar tînim... Until you... you said something else like I use my hands for it like this...
Na welle... carnan destê min giran dibin, min ew nikarî wisa... naha wek... No, by God... sometimes my hands get heavy, I couldn't do it like this... now like...
Destên min wek yê berê sivik nîn e. Me malan da ew gundî... yanî dema em diçûn hev, em bi hev re ew... çêdikirin... Min nedikarî ew giraniya wî bû... min ew nizanî ez wisa dikim... em naha... My hands are not light like before. We in the houses, those villagers... I mean when we went together, we made it together... I couldn't, it was heavy... I didn't know I would do it like this... we now...
Yanî ew... naha qîzên te hene... yan keçik... yê ku tu wisa wan fêrî... hîn dikî... I mean that... now you have girls... or daughters... that you teach them like this... you train...
Qîzên min... welle... wek wan... ew na, tiştên wisa ez nabînim... me yê... em wek qalib wek em wisa... yek dikim binî, ya dî, sêyem em li ser. Û ev yê navberê jî li ser hev, em bi qalib wisa... wek ew dikin hevdû. Ev qalib e amûr wisa ne... My girls... by God... like them... no, I don't see such things... ours... we like a mold like we do this... I put one at the bottom, another, the third on top. And this middle one too on top of each other, we with a mold like this... like they put them together. This is a mold, the tools are like this...
Dêka min, rehma xwedê lê be, ew wisa dikir... My mother, may God's mercy be upon her, used to do it like this...
Me em ev wisa... wek qalibekî wisa me bikar dianî. Wek ev fîrne ewa yê tişt e... diçe jêr û ew diçe jor. We used this like this... we used it like a mold. Like this oven, it is a thing... it goes down and it goes up.
Ev wek firne we wek te got we we agir di binî de dikir... This is like an oven, as you said, you put the fire underneath...
Ev e wek tenûrê ye firne ye wisa... li binî agir e. Wisa li ser teşt em wisa wek wisa me dikir... qalib e. This is like a tandoor, it's an oven like this... underneath is the fire. Like this on the pan we did it like this... it's a mold.
Maşallah. Xaltîk tiştek wisa ew pir rind e, evqas wext te tiştên berê, wisa te parastiye, tu xwedî derketiye. Mashallah. Auntie, such a thing is very beautiful, for so much time you have protected the things of the past like this, you have taken care of them.
Dêka min, wî ha wek wisa dikir. Em di wisa min qet nedît wisa. Ew a jin e. Wek dêka min a rehma xwedê lê be wisa kir. My mother, she did it just like this. We in this, I have never seen it like this. That is a woman. Just like my mother, may God's mercy be upon her, did it.
Erê welle, tê hanê... Kes nake, xwedê av kiriye noka. Yê deravî noka, girs e, av pir nîne, der av çêdiketin. Yes indeed, come here... No one waters them, God has watered the chickpeas. The riverside chickpeas are large, there isn't much water, where they used to water them.
Kurê min here xaltîkê cema wê bike. Were xaltîk were. My son, bring the aunt here. Come aunt, come.
Were vî alî, were vî alî, were were were xaltîkê bi min ra wer. Come this way, come this way, come come come aunt, come with me.
Were di kamerayê tiştkî ewil de... pir kevn e. Come to the camera, a first thing... it's very old.
Na pir kevn e, tiştê adeta me ev bû. No, it is very old, our customs were like this.
Belê. Havînê nedihiştin me tahve dikir, kekê eyan ji me weha dikir. Yes. In the summer they didn't let us dry them in the sun, the brothers obviously did that to us.
Em dizanin rind e, em dizanin rind e, hîna rind e karê weha. We know it's good, we know it's good, such work is still good.
Xaltîk, çi tiştên din xeynî van we dikir? Tiştên kevn yê turan sî... û wana çawa çêdibûn? Aunt, what other things besides these did you do? The old things like those bags... and how were they made?
Wele em diçûn me dikirin û wano, fermîşokên rizê me dikirin û wano, berxêrkirin me dikirin wano. Belê, arê. Kofta dikirin û wano, ê ku we wisa diqelartin... Serê... I swear we went and made such things, we made rice vermicelli and such things, we raised lambs and such things. Yes, indeed. You made koftas and such things, the ones you fried like that... At first...
Te qet paledarî kiriye? Have you ever done harvesting?
Lîî, min çawa nekiriye, emrê min di paletiyê de xelas bû. No, how could I not have done it, my life ended in harvesting.
Ji bîst saliyê de... emrê min di paletiyê çû. Since I was twenty... my life went into harvesting.
Ma kîjan baş bû? Karê jinan yê noka pir çêtir e an yê wê çaxê çêtir bû? Which one was good? Is women's work much better now or was it better back then?
Wê çaxê çêtir bû welah, emr xelas bûye. It was better back then, I swear, life has passed.
Ba dîda wisa çêtir bîn, emr xelas bûye. Since they were better like that, life has passed.
Na, Xwedê emrê we dirêj bike, hûn hîn jî can in. No, may God lengthen your life, you are still lovely.
Welleh can e, înşallah em ê qasî xwe bikin. I swear it's lovely, hopefully we will do as much as we can.
Na, lê... No, but...
Erê welle qurban, tiştên zemanê me xweş bû. Erê... nan hebû, me nan dikir. Rûkê eya... yekî me tehn dikir... kewk ard dikir nan. Qeşa kor bîn... te nanê kewkê qet xwariye? Erê. Yes indeed, dear, the things of our time were nice. Yes... there was bread, we used to make bread. The outside of it... someone would grind it... make flour from roots for bread. It was a bit blinding... have you ever eaten root bread? Yes.
Hemi noka ev tişt qîmet in. These are all valuable things now.
Saet xwaş xaltîk, qurban, Xwedê ji we razî be, yek û yek we keyfa min anî. Serserî me, ser çavên me. Saet xwaş. Good job aunt, dear, may God be pleased with you, you have made me so happy. Upon our head, upon our eyes. Good job.
Temaşevanên me yên hêja, niha jî xalê me bi me re ye. Wê ji we re li ser gundên kevn, gundê Meydano, ji we re hinekî behsa dîroka gund bike. Merheba xalo. Our dear viewers, now our uncle is with us. He will talk to you about the old villages, the village of Meydano, he will tell you a little about the history of the village. Hello uncle.
Merheba, ehlen we sehlen. Baxtewarî, ser serî me, ser çavê me, Zay TV, Rojava. Hello, welcome. Happiness, upon our head, upon our eyes, Zay TV, Rojava.
Em te nas bikin destpêkê? Shall we get to know you first?
Ez bi xwe ji Meydano me. Di bav û kalo de, di sêsed salî de, çarsed salî de ez ji miletê eşîreta... Alparaqo, ji Gewenda me. I myself am from Meydano. From the ancestors, for three hundred years, four hundred years, I am from the nation of the tribe of... Alparaqo, from Gewenda.
Ez ji malbata Mihê Mistê me. Mala Qêwilo. I am from the family of Mihê Mistê. The house of Qêwilo.
Pênc malbat, şeş malbat Gewenda hene. Du malbat mezin in. There are five families, six families of Gewenda. Two families are large.
Yek jê re dibêjin malbata Alparaqo. Yek jê re dibêjin malbata Şero. Yek jê re dibêjin malbata Hesenkê. One is called the family of Alparaqo. One is called the family of Şero. One is called the family of Hesenkê.
Li wê hawîrdorê jî, du malbatên piçûk hene. Mala Keliha jê re dibêjin û mala Apûlaro. In that surrounding, there are two small families too. They call it the house of Keliha and the house of Apûlaro.
Ev gund hemû Gewenda ne. Gewenda bi xwe jî sêsed mal e. These villages are all Gewenda. Gewenda itself is three hundred households.
Tê de rewşenbîr hene. Tê de cotkar hene. Miletê me tê de belav bûne. There are intellectuals in it. There are farmers in it. Our nation has spread within it.
Û me her tiştî tê de heye. And we have everything in it.
Belê em dixwazin destpêkê bizanibin navê gundê Meydanê ji ku derê hatiye? Yes, we want to know first, where did the name of the village of Meydan come from?
Meydano bi xwe, jê re dibêjin Meydaniyat. Heft perçe gund in. Meydano itself, they call it Meydaniyat. They are seven piece villages.
Gewenda 1, Gundê Dodo 2, Wekîlkosê 3, Gundê Gazê 4, Gundê Kerê Şêx Mihemedlî 5, Miskûtlî 6, Sêmala 7. Gewenda 1, Gundê Dodo 2, Wekîlkosê 3, Gundê Gazê 4, Gundê Kerê Şêx Mihemedlî 5, Miskûtlî 6, Sêmala 7.
Meydano bi xwe... gundê me Gewenda... teqrîben... di navbera 300-500, 400 salan de çêbûye. Meydano itself... our village Gewenda... approximately... was built between 300-500, 400 years.
Çêbûyîna wê ya destpêkê, em zanin... di koka wê de hatiye, bi gotinên kalên xwe pirs dikirin, bi me re digotin, Alparaqo. Alo. Its first creation, we know... comes from its roots, by asking the words of our ancestors, they told us, Alparaqo. Alo.
Sê lawên Alo hebin. Yek navê wî Hesen bû, yek navê wî Silêman bû, yek navê wî Omer bû. Alo had three sons. One was named Hesen, one was named Silêman, one was named Omer.
Hesen ê mezin e, Silêman ê ortê ye, Omer ê piçûk e. Em jî Omer in. Hesen is the eldest, Silêman is the middle, Omer is the youngest. And we are Omer.
Eylê me mala Mihê Mistê ye. Eylê mala Seyîdo. Em birakê hev in li mala Mihê Omer in. Our family is the house of Mihê Mistê. The family of the house of Seyîdo. We are brothers together in the house of Mihê Omer.
Weke din jî eşîra we bi xwe sêsed mal e. Otherwise, your tribe itself is three hundred households.
Belê niha wek mîna te qala wê kir, te digot gundê Meydano heft perçe ye, ne? Yes, now just as you talked about it, you were saying the village of Meydano is seven pieces, right?
Berê ma gund yek bû paşê bû perçe perçe? Absolutely.
Berê ma gund yek bû paşê bû perçe perçe? Was the village one before and then it became pieces?
Na me newara pîş de ye. Her yek... wekû Şêx Mihemedlî dibêjin çiyayê Garzan de hatine. Gewenda dibêjin ji jêr de hatine. No, we were not in front. Each one... like they say Şêx Mihemedlî came from the mountain of Garzan. Gewenda, they say, came from below.
Na na, ez qesta min ew bû te go Meydano bi xwe heft perçe ye. No no, my intention was that you said Meydano itself is seven pieces.
Heft perçe ye, rast e. It is seven pieces, that's right.
Gelo gundê berê Meydanek bû, paşê bûbûn çend perçe li her derê ava bûbûn, lê na? Was the village previously one Meydan, then became several pieces built everywhere, or no?
Na gund... her gundek muxtarê xwe heye. Çar muxtar me hene. Her gundek dibe muxtarek... fe lîzalik. No, the village... every village has its mukhtar. We have four mukhtars. Every village becomes a mukhtar... therefore.
Gihên nêzîk hev in. Em hemû, me hemûyan nav lê daniye Meydaniyat. The places are close to each other. We all, we have all named it Meydaniyat.
Wek em çawa dibêjin Heleb; Şêx Meqsûd, Eşrefiye, Bostan Paşa fîlan. Meydano jî heft perçe ye. Just like we say Aleppo; Şêx Meqsûd, Eşrefiye, Bostan Paşa and so on. Meydano is also seven pieces.
Her perçeyek navê xwe heye. Û muxtarê xwe jî heye. Û gundê usmanlî de ye. Me bi wan gundan ve dîtiye. Every piece has its name. And it has its mukhtar. And it is in the Ottoman villages. We have seen them with those villages.
Te got di nav sêsed, pênc... sêsed pêncî sal de, çarsed sal de ev gund hatine ava kirin. Ev gund bi giştî kevnar in û li hemberê sînorê Tirkiye ye. Em karin wisa bihesibînin? You said in three hundred, five... three hundred and fifty years, four hundred years these villages were built. These villages are generally ancient and are opposite the border of Turkey. Can we consider it like that?
Em bi xwe, Meydano, em di Cebel Ekrad de ne. Navê herêma Efrînê, Cebel Ekrad digotin di serdema Usmanî de. We ourselves, Meydano, we are in Cebel Ekrad. The region of Afrin, they called it Cebel Ekrad in the Ottoman era.
Paşê nav lê kirin herêma Efrîn. Navçeya Raco, Meydano. Meydano bi xwe berî Cebel Ekrad de, asîmeya Cebel Ekrad bû. Later they named it the region of Afrin. District of Raco, Meydano. Meydano itself, before in Cebel Ekrad, it was the capital of Cebel Ekrad.
Gelekî qerebalix bû. Gelkî cotkar bû. Gelkî xizmetkar bû. Cotkar in, em xwedan milk in. It was very crowded. It was a farming people. It was a working people. They are farmers, we are property owners.
Di bav û kalên xwe de... bav û pîrê, bav û kalê min, çar cotê wan hebûn, 100 hezar erdê wan daştî li Meydanê diçandin. From our ancestors... the father and grandfather, my ancestors, they had four pairs, they planted 100 thousand of flat land in Meydan.
Efrîn bi xwe... av pê de diçû, mişkok diçû xaniyê çêdikir û xilas dibû, diçû xaniyê din çêdikir û xilas dibû, heta dibû qeza. Efrîn pirr biçûk bû, nav lê kiribûn asîmeya herêma Efrînê, berê navê wê Cebel Ekrad bû. Afrin itself... water flowed through it, mice would go build a house and finish, go build another house and finish, until it became a district. Afrin was very small, they named it the capital of the Afrin region, its name used to be Cebel Ekrad.
Naha Efrîn bûye... teqrîben 300 hezar mal e. Mezin e. Now Afrin has become... approximately 300 thousand households. It is big.
Û tabîa herêma Efrînê 360 gund in. Ev gundên tabîa herêma Efrînê ne, teqrîben mabinî 400-500 hezar nifûs lê heye herêma Efrînê. Hemû jî Kurdên Kurmanc in. And attached to the Afrin region are 360 villages. These villages attached to the Afrin region, approximately between 400-500 thousand population is there in the Afrin region. All of them are Kurmanji Kurds.
Heta hejmara malên gund çi qas e? Up to what is the number of households in the village?
Kîjan gundî? Which village?
Gundê we, Meydano. Your village, Meydano.
Meydano bi giştî 700 mal hebûn. Gewenda 300 mal e. Gundê Dodo, pir çûne. Hazir mafê wê 50 e. Wekîlkosê 40 heye. Gundê Kerrê 60 heye. Gundê Miskûtlî 10 heye. Gundê Gazê 40 mal e. Sêmala 200 mal e. Ev hemû Meydano tê hesibandin. Meydano in general had 700 households. Gewenda is 300 households. In the village of Dodo, many have left. Currently, its rights are 50. Wekîlkosê has 40. The village of Kerrê has 60. The village of Miskûtlî has 10. The village of Gazê is 40 households. Sêmala is 200 households. All of this is considered Meydano.
Niha em werin perçeyê em lê ne, ev perçe dîsa çi... Now let's come to the piece we are in, what is this piece again...
Ev perçeyê em lê ne... li Wekîlkosê, mala Şebî ne, ev der. Wekîlkosê. Tabiî mezreyê Şêx Mihemedlî ye. Wekîlkosê mezreya Şêx Mihemedlî ye. Tebek û wî mezreya Şêx Mihemedlî ye. Miskûtlî mezreya Şêx Mihemedlî ye. This piece we are in... in Wekîlkosê, the house of Şebî, this place. Wekîlkosê. Naturally, it is the hamlet of Şêx Mihemedlî. Wekîlkosê is the hamlet of Şêx Mihemedlî. Tebek is its hamlet, of Şêx Mihemedlî. Miskûtlî is the hamlet of Şêx Mihemedlî.
Lê ema Sêmala bi halê xwe. Dodo bi halê xwe. Gewenda bi halê xwe. But Sêmala is on its own. Dodo is on its own. Gewenda is on its own.
Niha te wekî got, gava te digot ev gund gelek kevn e, wî demê divê gelek tiştên dîrokî jî li gund hebin? Now as you said, when you said this village is very old, at that time there should also be many historical things in the village?
Hene, eser hene. Ji şêxên berê û gundên Gewenda ziyaretek heye kevn e, ziyareta Hecer heye. Ziyaretên kevn hene. Bajarek li jor heye, jê re digotin Şeqîf. There are, there are relics. From the previous sheikhs and the villages of Gewenda there is an old shrine, there is the shrine of Hecer. There are old shrines. There is a town up there, they used to call it Şeqîf.
Heta niha kevirên wê dîtin, du metre, sê metre dirêj û teqrîben metrekê stûr in, ev hemû kevirên xaniyên wan bûn. Until now they have seen its stones, two meters, three meters long and approximately a meter thick, these were all the stones of their houses.
Te got bajar bû? You said it was a town?
Bajar bû. Bajarê Şeqîfê ji wê re digotin. Padişahê wê hebû, digot gundiyê Romê de... berî vê 4-5 hezar sal. It was a town. They called it the town of Şeqîf. It had its king, they said the villager in Rome... 4-5 thousand years before this.
Bav û kalên me wisa digotin: ev bajarê Şeqîf bajar e. Niha eserên wê hene, kelheyên wê hene, şûnwarên wê hene. Our ancestors used to say this: this town of Şeqîf is a town. Now its relics are there, its castles are there, its ruins are there.
Dîwarên wê hene, û hemû, hemû kevir in, tu xaniyekî ku bi hesin be tune ye, ev eserên wê bi xwe ew şûn in. Its walls are there, and all of it, all is stone, there is no house that is with iron, these relics themselves are those ruins.
Şûnê wê gelek xerabe ye. Şeqîf bi xwe gelek xirabe bû. Fe lîzalik bajarek bû. Its location is very ruined. Şeqîf itself was very ruined. So therefore it was a town.
Li ku derê dakeve ew? Where is that located?
Li aliyê jor, li ber gundê Gewenda û Gundê Dodo. Di aliyê jor de, wekî ku em çûnê, em li malên Şebî ne, em çûn wî alî yê aliyê me, li aliyê jor ê Gundê Dodo û Gewenda. On the upper side, near the village of Gewenda and the village of Dodo. On the upper side, as we went, we are at the houses of Şebî, we went that way to our side, on the upper side of the village of Dodo and Gewenda.
Ew gundekî wî, bajarê Şeqîf ê... yek jî cihên kevn e, eva perçe kevnar in. Û xeynî wî çi cihên dîtir yên ku hene? That village of his, the town of Şeqîf... is one of the old places, this is an ancient piece. And besides it, what other places are there?
Tiştên dîtir... me got ziyaretên me jî kevn in. Du ziyaretên me hene. Yek ziyareta Şêx Mûs, Şêx Mûsê Enzelî... şehîd e. Other things... we said our shrines are also old. We have two shrines. One is the shrine of Şêx Mûs, Şêx Mûsê Enzelî... he is a martyr.
Ziyaret li berî gund çêbibe ew hebû, ne? The shrine was there before the village was built, right?
Ew hebû, ormanek bû, hemû darên mazî bûn, darên mezin bûn, Şêx Mûsê Enzelî hatiye di wextê kuştinê de, di bin de hatiye veşartin, li pêşiya Meydano di nava wê de hatiye veşartin. It was there, it was a forest, they were all oak trees, they were large trees, Şêx Mûsê Enzelî came during the time of killing, he was buried underneath, he was buried in front of Meydano inside it.
Ewî jî reva Şêx Mûsê Enzelî... zilamek ji aliyê Cewşê ve dema tê, da ku sê nexl li ser gund be, xwe çêkir. Xelkê tirsî ku ha wî şehîd bikin. Ew li nav gûviyên daran veşartin. Nedihiştin ku kes di rê de biçûna. Li hemberî Sêmala di qereca berê de çûn, nav lê danîn. Heta niha jî ji wan girê re dibêjin girên dîtir. He also, the fleeing of Şêx Mûsê Enzelî... when a man comes from the direction of Cewşê, so that three palm trees would be over the village, he made himself. The people were afraid that they would martyr him. They hid him among the thickets of trees. They wouldn't let anyone go on the road. Opposite Sêmala in the old scrublands they went, they named it. Even now they call those hills the other hills.
Ev neheqî û zilma ku li Şêx Mûsê Enzelî kirî. Da wê derê revîn, çûn. Heya niha Meydano em dibêjin girê Donxiz... This injustice and oppression they did to Şêx Mûsê Enzelî. So they fled there, they went. Until now Meydano, we call it the hill of Donxiz...
...gundekî di dawiyê de wisa... ...a village at the end like this...
Belê. Yes.
Wê saetê te xwest ku... te got te pirsek kir, te pirsek kir ya ku... At that time you wanted to... you said you had a question, you had a question, the one you just...
Na, berî em dest pê bikin, te ji min re tiştek got. No, before we start, you told me something.
Te got wilo wele min pirsî, xelkê Efrînê min pirsî, gelo ev kê bizanibin... You said, "I asked, I asked the people of Afrin, let's see who knows this."
Çi zor û zehmetî jî hebe ha... "Whatever difficulties there are..."
Ha, ha, wê saetê te xwest sual min ji te hebe. Yes, yes, at that time you wanted me to have a question for you.
Ez devera rewşenbîriya gundê Meydan Ekbesê bêjim. Let me tell you about the intellectuals of the village of Meydan Ekbes.
Li vir endezyarê malûmatiyê heye li Rûsyayê. Here, there is an informatics engineer in Russia.
Li vir Mihemed Şêxo û Umer Şêxo. Endezyarê kehrebê ye. Here are Mihemed Sheikho and Umer Sheikho. He is an electrical engineer.
Li Rûsya, li vir nexweş ket, çû Rûsya. Li wir jî rehmetî bû. In Russia, he got sick here, went to Russia. He passed away there too.
Ustad Beşîr li vir heye, li gund e... ha van ser gund da dibêjim. Ustad Beshir is here, he is in the village... I am talking about this village.
Ustad Beşîr heye, endezyarê zîra'î ye. Ustad Beshir is an agricultural engineer.
Doktor heye, Ebdilrezaq Mistikalo... There is a doctor, Abdulrazaq Mistikalo...
Nika li vir ji dest herbê, dest zilametê revîn çûn Ewropayê. Lawê min revî çû Ewropayê. Now from here, from the war, from the oppression they fled to Europe. My son fled to Europe.
Yanî xudanên me, nikanin bişixulin, nikanin cot baş bikin... I mean, our people, they can't work, they can't farm well...
Nikanin zeytûnan biçînin, direvin diçin Ewropayê. They can't pick olives, they flee to Europe.
Gund jî, wekî gundê we dûr e... wisa direvin. And the village, a village that is far away, like your village is far... so they flee.
Gundê me dûr e, wisa ye. Our village is far, it is like that.
Û em rica dikin, çiqa kurdek heye, li rojhilat û rojava heye, li bakur û başûr... And we ask, whatever Kurds there are, in the east and west, in the north and south...
Em ji gişan rica dikin... Rêyeke me heye 20 hezar milet em li ser vê rêkê ne. Rêka Meydana û Meydan Ekbesê. We ask all of them... We have a road, 20 thousand people are on this road. The road of Meydana and Meydan Ekbes.
Bi xwedê xalo, ez jî xalekê, ez wî bibêjim... Temaşevanên me yên hêja... By God, uncle, I should also mention this point... Our dear viewers...
Dema ku em hatin, rêyeke bi tenê heye ji Meydan Ekbesê re, heyata evî gundî. When we came, there is only one road for Meydan Ekbes, to this village.
Rê gelekî pîs e. Yanî du saet tenê, em di vê rêkê de man. The road is very bad. I mean, we spent two hours just on this road.
Du saetan te xwar... sualek me ha... You spent 2 hours... so we have a question...
Û te got ev rêka ne tenê xelkê adî tê re diçe û tê... Rêkeke tîcarî ye te got? And you said this road is not only for ordinary people to come and go... It's a commercial road, you said?
Rêkeke tîcarî ye, umûmî ye, xusûsî ye, zîra'î ye. It is a commercial road, it is public, it is private, it is agricultural.
Belê. Em hinekî werin ser xizmetên gund jî, da ku... Çi xizmet li gund heye? Yes. Let's talk a little bit about the services of the village too... What services are there in the village?
Ger em bêjin, av, kehrebe heye, çi nîne? Înternet, tiştên wilo. If we say, is there water, electricity, what isn't there? Internet, things like that.
Em gişk bi xwe didin birînê. We do all the drilling ourselves.
Bes em vê rêkê nikanin xwe bidin birînê. But we can't pave this road ourselves.
Avê me her malekê li sehekê derxistiye, em ji tirsa radikolin. Em çi bikin? Water, we have dug a well at every house, we dig out of fear. What can we do?
Mesela çêdibe, bêjî ji derve, em xwe didin birîn, bes ev rêka welle nikanin pê de birin din. For example, it is possible, let's say from outside, we provide for ourselves, but this road, by God, we cannot pave it ourselves.
Wî miletê me ne. They are our people.
Çiqas bişên miletî me ra dilî xwe li me ra bişewitînin... wî li vê rêkê. As much as they can, let their hearts burn for our people... yes, for this road.
Erê welle, rica dikim, qîza min... qîzeke min wekî te adab Erebî fêr e. Yes, by God, I beg you, my daughter... a daughter of mine, like you, has studied Arabic literature.
Li Almanyayê ye. Li wir jî 7 salan xwend. Navê wê Nesrîn e, navê wê ya din Zeynep e. She is in Germany. She studied there for 7 years too. Her name is Nesrin, the other one's name is Zeynep.
Navê lawê min jî Ehmed e, mohandesê malûmatiyê ye li Camî'a Me'mûn li Kefer Cenê. My son's name is Ahmed too, he is an informatics engineer at Al-Ma'mun University in Kefer Cene.
E qedera çûn, rewşenbîrên me bela bûn, rewşenbîrên me wisa kirin. Their destiny was to leave, our intellectuals dispersed, our intellectuals did this.
Tiştê ket destê we, wekî me, kalên wisa wekî me, em diwezin ser dorekê da, şevkê bimirin. Whatever fell into your hands, like us, old people like us, we wait for our turn, maybe we will die tonight.
Welleh em welatê xwe, derê xwe bernadin. By God, we will not leave our homeland, our door.
Bav û kalên me ye, xwediyê vê derê ye. It belongs to our fathers and grandfathers, they are the owners of this place.
Di 400 sal de, di 500 sal de, di 1000 salî de, mintaqeya Çiyayê Kurdan e, a kurdan e. For 400 years, for 500 years, for 1000 years, the region of Kurd Dagh is ours, it belongs to the Kurds.
Em jî miletê Kurdan in, bilê bin. We are also the Kurdish people, let them know.
Em ji miletê xwe neqetiyane, ser dilê me ne, ser çavê me ne. We have not been separated from our nation, they are on our hearts, they are on our eyes.
Ti çi bikî, em feqîr in, em nikanin li wan re fîdeyê bidin. Bes ew kanin fîdeyekê me bidin. What can you do, we are poor, we can't be of benefit to them. But they can be of benefit to us.
Ew kanin bi cîhetekê bidin. They can give from a certain direction.
Şe'bekî li Meydana, wellehî asîmeya Çiyayê Kurdan e, Meydana. Ne hindik e. The people in Meydana, by God, Meydana is the capital of Kurd Dagh. It is not small.
Û şe'bekî feqîr e, û şe'bekî xerîbdost e. And it is a poor people, and it is a hospitable people.
Nika tu xerîb hatî ceme, ez qîza xwe hez nakim wekî ku ez te hez dikim. Now you came as a stranger to us, I don't love my daughter as much as I love you.
Ser serê min. Upon my head.
Saeta sax be. Em, şe'bê wan em di meylê xerîban pir hez dikin. May you be healthy. We, such a people, we love strangers a lot.
Û inşallah Xwedê we hez bike. Ji dilê me ye ku em xelkê xwe ji dil hez dikin, inşallah. And God willing, God will love you. It is from our hearts that we love our people from the heart, God willing.
Û ev çi ye divê, Xwedê, da ku ji bo miletê xwe dixebite, ji bo qewmiyatiya xwe... And whatever is necessary, God, because they work for their people, for their nationalism...
Da ku ji bo miletê xwe dixebitî, Xwedê wê bi ser xîne. Because you work for your people, God will make you succeed.
Spasiya te dikim xalo. I thank you, uncle.
Saeta te jî xweş be, ehlen we sehlen. May you be well too, welcome.
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Belê temaşevanên me yên hêja, em kanin bibêjin ku niha em gihîştin dawiya xeleka îro. Yes, our dear viewers. We can say that we have now reached the end of today's episode.
Ez gelekî bikêf im û gelekî kêfxweş bûm, dema ez hatim vî gundî. Û tiştên gelekî xweş min li vî gundî dîtin. I am very happy and I was very glad when I came to this village. And I saw very beautiful things in this village.
Bi hêvî me ku dema hûn li vê xelekê seyir bikin, hûn jî kêfxweş bibin. I hope that when you watch this episode, you will be happy too.
Ez dixwazim beriya tişkî din jî bibêjim, berî ku em bi dawî bînin... I want to say one more thing before we end...
Li vê derê cem me pêşmerge heye, lawê... ew kurê bavê pêşmerge ye. Here with us is a peshmerga, his son... he is the son of a peshmerga father.
Niha min zanî ku îro rojbûna wî ye. Ez dixwazim ji vir bibêjim, rojbûna te pîroz be! I just found out that today is his birthday. I want to say from here, happy birthday to you!
Û her dem di xêr û xweşiyê de bimînî. And may you always remain in goodness and happiness.
Belê. Niha ji gundê Meydan Ekbes, ez Rûliyan Hec Ehmed me, ji bernameya Gund û Welat. Yes. Now from the village of Meydan Ekbes, I am Ruliyan Hec Ehmed, from the program "Village and Country".
Îro li gel we bûm. Bi hêviya dîtinê di xelekên din û gundên nû. I was with you today. Hope to see you in other episodes and new villages.
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