Roja we baş û şeva we nêrî be. Good day and good evening.
Îro xeleka sêyemîn ya bernameya Gundên Welat. Today is the third episode of the Villages of the Homeland program.
Em li Rûliyan Hac Ehmed in û îro ji gundê Basûtê li gel we me. We are in Ruliyan Haj Ahmed and today we are with you from the village of Basut.
Ka bi me re bimînin, em ê bi hev re biçin derbasî gund bibin û li me temaşe bikin. Stay with us, we will go into the village together, keep watching us.
Merheba xalê min. Hello, uncle.
Ehlen û sehlen. Welcome.
Navê te bi xêr? What is your name?
Ehmed Xidir. Ahmed Khidir.
Ez dixwazim ji me re li ser navê Basûtê, gundê Basûtê... çima yane Basûtê? I want you to tell us about the name Basut, the village of Basut... why Basut?
Ev ya yekemîn e. Ez dixwazim tu ji me re ser dîroka gundê Basûtê deng bikî. Kerem ke. This is the first one. I want you to talk to us about the history of the village of Basut. Please.
Basût, navekî ne kurdî ye. Navekî suryanî ye. Basut, it's not a Kurdish name. It's a Syriac name.
Ji Entabê de û ji Meraşê de bigre heta digihê Urdunê, sê ruba gundan navên wan gişk suryanî ne. From Antep and Marash up to Jordan, three-quarters of the villages have Syriac names.
Leenû şeibê Sûriyê suryan e bi esilê xwe ne. Because the people of Syria are originally Syriac.
Basût ji du şoran çêdibiya. Basut comes from two words.
Ba, yanê bi maneya beyt, bi erebî. Ba, meaning "house" in Arabic.
Û sût, malê sîng. Yanê pêsîr. And sut, means chest. Or breast.
Xêr e, qendî av û kaniyên ku der lê hene, yanê diherike keeno sîng e û jê diherike yanê. It's good, with all the water and springs that are there, it flows like a breast and milk flows from it.
Ya jî kela wê li vir e, kela wê di şiklê vider e, yanê wekî pêsîrê însên têne xuyan. Or its castle is here, its castle is in this shape, it looks like a human breast.
Îzen Basût, bi mana bi erebî jê re dibêjin Beyt El-Sidir. Beyt El-Sedî. So Basut, meaning in Arabic they call it Beit Al-Sadir. Beit Al-Sadi.
Selahedînê Eyûbî dibêjin ba'dî herbê selîbiyan, Saladin Ayyubi, they say after the Crusades,
Kela Basûtê, ewil kela bo muwaceheya selîbiyan a Entakyayê ye. Ev kela ye. Basut Castle, was the first castle to face the Crusaders of Antioch. This castle.
Û dorçarmêla xwa berê gişk sûr bû. And its surroundings were all previously a wall.
Û wekî dibêjin jêr gişk xendek bû, ava kaniyê berdidane û tê de asê dibûn, derdibûn û derdibûn. And as they say, the bottom was all a trench, they let the spring water flow into it and they fortified themselves in it, they came in and out.
Û paşê Selahedîn, wextê ku selîbiyan ji vider hew rêş kirin, kurd anîn hatin, And later Saladin, when they pushed the Crusaders away from here, brought Kurds,
Ji Entabê de û Meraşê de çandin heta niha bi mihemedî. From Antep and Marash they settled here until now as Muslims.
Temam. Destpêkê malbatên ku hatine vir navên wan gundiyan çi bûn? Okay. Initially, the families who came here, what were the names of those villagers?
Malbat, ez nikarim bêjim... malbatên me çiqas hatine ne ser... yanê dore 300 sale kî heye. Families, I can't say... how many of our families came... it's about 300 years ago.
Navê wan malbatan... The names of those families...
Navên wê malbatê pir in. Malbatên hene kevin in, malbatên hene jî eceb in. The names of those families are many. There are old families, and there are some strange ones.
Malbatên kevin; malê Betêl in, malê Ebrûş in, malê Emer in, Old families; the family of Batel, the family of Abrush, the family of Amar,
Malê Silêmanî Kuto, kesî wan nema ye, The family of Slemani Kuto, no one is left of them,
Malê... evê Topoşane, malê Hisir in. Em in yanê malê Hisir in. The family... these Toposhan, the family of Hisir. Us, I mean the Hisir family.
Malê Çolo ne, malê... pir in yanê malbat pir in. Malê Xêlit in. Pir in yanê. The family of Cholo, the family... there are many families. The family of Khelit. There are many.
Xalê min, tu karî li ser kela Basûtê ji me re deng bikî? Kela Basûtê? My uncle, can you tell us about the Basut Castle? Basut Castle?
Ya min ji te re got. Selahedînê Eyûbî ev kela girtiya bo me'nê selîbiyên Entakyayê. I already told you. Saladin Ayyubi took this castle to stop the Crusaders of Antioch.
Yanê em dibêjin; xaldî hene, reşkotî hene, reşwanî hene, şêrawî hene, I mean we say; there are Khaldi, there are Rashkoti, there are Rashwani, there are Sherawi,
Paşê gişk li ev der kom bûn e yanê. Later they all gathered here.
Lîzalik nakokî civîn... yanê eşayêr tune ne, xêr e her çend malek bibe, çend mal jî ji eşîreke hatiye gişk li ev der kom bûne û erd wekî dibêjin ajotine û av pir e. That's why the gathering... I mean there are no tribes, maybe there are a few families, a few families came from a tribe, they all gathered here and cultivated the land, as they say, and there is a lot of water.
Û kaniyên pir in, civîna vider li Basûtê li ber ava Efrînê e, heta digehê gundê ereban kanî ne. And there are many springs, the gathering here in Basut is next to the Afrin River, until it reaches the Arab villages, there are springs.
Kîjan kanî ne? Which springs are they?
Kaniyên ku... yanê kaniya pirr, kaniya tahtê, kaniya sor, The springs that... I mean the main spring, the spring of the rock, the red spring,
Kaniyên êş, kanî serek, kaniya malê Hemşo, kaniya malê Hesîb, gişk kanî ne ber avê re. The pain springs, the upper spring, the spring of the Hamsho family, the spring of the Hasib family, they are all springs along the river.
Wê kaniyê? That spring?
Û ev kanî, ev kaniya jî ji berva bakur tê re jor. Çar parçeyan e. And this spring, this spring comes from the north towards the top. It's in four parts.
Daxê tê, tê li vider digihê kurzelê, yek diherike gundê ereban, The mountain comes, comes here and reaches Kurzel, one flows to the Arab village,
Yek tê Basûtê, yek jî da dikeve kaniya vîkê. One comes to Basut, and one goes down to the spring there.
Nakokî av hişk bû, qendî bîran lê di kolan e, ava herû herêmî ye, werok wera jî kaniyeke hişk dibe. Now the water has dried up, so many wells have been dug in it, the water of every region, as you come and go, a spring also dries up.
Ji vê kaniyê wêna erdê Basûtê gişkî pê av didin na? From this spring, do they irrigate all the land of Basut with it?
Lê. Dorê 300 hektar kaniyê av dida û erdê li ser kaniyê re jî, gişk bîr kolan e pê av didin. Yes. About 300 hectares were irrigated by the spring and the land above the spring as well, they all dug wells and irrigate with it.
Sê roba bîran jî gişk hişk bûne, naha xelk naha makîneyên xwe heyiriye, Three quarters of the wells have dried up, now people are stuck with their machines,
Beriya ava bendavê dihat avê, ava bendavê jî ev du sal e sê sal e nede avê, gişk qut kirine li ser me. Before, the dam water used to come, the dam water has also not come for two or three years, they cut it all off from us.
Xalê ez dixwazim naha tu ji me re ser xelkê Basûtê, li vê derê çi karî dikin? Uncle, I want you to tell us about the people of Basut now, what work do they do here?
Kî pir e? Karê li vê derê çi kar dikin? Who is the majority? What kind of work do they do here?
Karê Basûtê di erdê de dişixulin, di baxçeyan de dişixulin. The work of Basut is they work in the land, they work in the orchards.
Kesokhiyan dikin, merreyan dikin, û çewrê xwe dikin... yanê wena kine, feqîran in e. They do pruning, they do digging, and they do their own plowing... they are like this, they are poor.
Û em miletîkî mezlûm in. Û xelkê ku dewletê xwa çêkirin, dewleta me tine. And we are an oppressed nation. And the people who built their own state, we have no state.
Erdê me xelkê par ve kir... hinek Sûriyê bir, hinek Tirkan bir, hinek Îraqê bir, hinek jî Îranê bir. The people divided our land... some went to Syria, some to Turks, some to Iraq, and some to Iran.
Hinek em perçe bûn û îtîrafê ji me nakin. We were divided somewhat and they don't recognize us.
Ez di sefa şeşê de bûm ji me jî piçûktir. I was in the sixth grade, and some were younger than us.
Roja weke roja ereban e, çawa dibêjin ... pêcî... û şêstî de. On a day like the Arab day, how do they say... 50s... and 60s.
Em di sefa şeşê de ne. We are in the sixth grade.
Diçim ba mala Cel'ûtê wê derê cerîde difirotin. I go near Jal'out's house there, they were selling newspapers.
Min seqekir ser cerîdekî ez nizanim kê kirina "Xewna kevn, Kurdistana mezin vedigere dîrokê." I looked at a newspaper, I don't know who wrote "The old dream, the great Kurdistan returns to history."
Sûretê Barzanî rehmetî li ser çiyayekî kêşandine. They drew a picture of the late Barzani on a mountain.
Û ev... seqe... ew di sefa şeşê de bûn ew fikir serê min de hebû. And this... look... they were in the sixth grade, I had that thought in my head.
Em çûçik bûn, di sefa ewil de bûn, em derdihatin em digo "xêr e em bi erebî dixwînin em bi zimanê xwe naxwînin?" We were small, we were in the first grade, we would come out and say "why do we read in Arabic, we don't read in our own language?"
Ev tişt... yanê sefa ewil we sefa ewil. Malimî me çi dikirin... digo; "Lat ihkû bil-lughat al-kurdiya." These things... I mean the first grade, first grade. Our teacher, what did he do... he said; "Don't speak the Kurdish language."
Ne digo çima... qeşmeyên sefa yekê em ku çima erebî deng nakin. Em nizanin erebî çî ye? We wouldn't say why... jokes of the first grade, why don't we speak Arabic. We don't know what Arabic is?
Hesenek danî, yekî digot "Kî deng kir?" Tê pê de, pê de. He put a good one, someone would say "Who spoke?" Come here, here.
Hêvarek em dihatin weha sençik... min di xelkê re derdiket... em çûne cem ... teşqela bîriya jî vedidan me. Me gişt kûtek dixwarin, xêr e, me bi kurmancî deng kiriye. One evening we were coming like this... I was coming out through the people... we went to... they were giving us trouble there too. We were all getting beaten, why, because we spoke Kurmanji.
De were vê zilmê ti ye. De were vê zilmê ti ye. Come on, you are this oppression. Come on, you are this oppression.
Çima, hizb tunebûn. Heta pêncî û heftan hizbê kurdan tunebûn. Pêncî û heftan de çêbû. Because, there were no parties. Until '57 there were no Kurdish parties. It happened in '57.
Pêncî û heftan hizb... dibe çêbû em çûçik bûn. '57 the party... maybe it happened we were small.
Em di sefa çaran... sisê-ewil da û rabe bûn. We were in the fourth grade... third-first and getting up.
Piştî, rabû, belav bû ev fikir. Cerîde dihatin me dixwend, cerîde bi şev nav baxçeyan, ber çaran di rabe kirin. After, it rose, this idea spread. Newspapers came, we read them, newspapers at night in the orchards, they raised them by fours.
Yanî xalê hizb çi tune bûn, heta 57'an, Barzanî hat, ew tiştê kurmanciyê Efrînê jî hez kirin? So uncle, there were no parties, until '57, Barzani came, did those things make Afrin love Kurmanji too?
Yanî me'nê çima ez bi kurmanciya Efrînê dibêjim... xêr ji Barzanî hez dikin? I mean why I say in Afrin's Kurmanji... why do they love Barzani?
Xêr ez ji te re hez bikim? Leenû kurmancên Îraqê wekî dibêjin, qismetê wan baş bû. Why should I love you? Because Iraqi Kurds, as they say, their luck was good.
Îsbat kirin e, şuxilî ne ji bo xwa ve, û ber Kurdistanê ve. They proved it, they worked for themselves, and for Kurdistan.
Barzanî li pençî... çel û şeşan de... wekî dibêjin; 515 pêşmergeyê xwe heta Mabatê xerap bûn... Barzani in fifty... forty-six... as they say; 515 of his peshmerga until Mabat were destroyed...
Kom kir û deba xwe danî Rûsya. 500 kîlometran de ji Îraqê heta pêgê Rûsya, 500 kîlometre bi şev dimeşiyan, bi rojê xweparastin, di kevtan de. He gathered them and set his base in Russia. 500 kilometers from Iraq to the Russian border, 500 kilometers walking at night, protecting themselves by day, in caves.
Kî wanî bike? 33 roj meşiyan heta gihîştin hidûdê Ermenistan û wekî dibêjin çûnê li wê derê diman, heta pençî û heştan. Who would do that? They walked 33 days until they reached the Armenian border and as they say, they went and stayed there, until fifty-eight.
Bê Ebdulkerîm Qasim înqîlab kirî. Without Abdul Karim Qasim making a revolution.
Go herin... eve... berê derketin, ji Îraqê bela warin hatin. Mesûd, He said go... this... they came out before, from Iraq they should come. Masoud,
Go "Em çûn Besreyê... fetilîn..." yanê gemyekê rûniştibûn, navê wê "Gurciya" ye. He said "We went to Basra... we wandered..." I mean they sat on a ship, its name is "Georgia".
Di qenata suwêsrê hatina xelîc, Mesûd go "Bavê min nasnekir," leenû Mesûd li vir bû... bavê wî çûbû wê derê. 10 salan bû. They came to the Gulf through the Suez Canal, Masoud said "I didn't recognize my father," because Masoud was here... his father had gone there. It had been 10 years.
Go "Yekî mirek go eva yanê bavê te ye." He said "A man told me this is your father."
Û eva tiştan gişt mirovên din dîtin... go em çima... eşkê miletê hez nakin? And all these things other people saw... he said why don't we... love the people's tears?
Miletekî... ber kurd... li Tirkiyê feşilî. Kurmancên Îranê feşili. Û cihê me jî em hindikin em ê çi bikin, em ê çi derkê em netaştan kin. A nation... for Kurds... failed in Turkey. The Kurds of Iran failed. And our place too, we are few, what will we do, what will we do.
Lê em... ji gîhan jî zana tirin. But we... are smarter than everyone.
Em di Lîbya yê bûn... sala 89'an de, ez çûme Lîbyayê... wê derê saz bûbû. We were in Libya... in '89, I went to Libya... it was organized there.
Kurmancên Tirkiyê li wê derê bûn... me wiha deng dikir... der dikir... mirek... digo; "Te ev deran gişt dîtine?" Yanê... ser kurmancên Tirkiyê û minateqên te re va? The Kurds of Turkey were there... we were talking like this... expressing... a man... said; "Have you seen all these places?" I mean... about the Kurds of Turkey and your regions?
Mi go "Na min nedîtine... bes..." I said "No, I haven't seen them... but..."
Bes qendî dilê me li ser Kurdistanê û ser kurdan va, germa em ji wa çêtir zanin. But because our hearts are set on Kurdistan and the Kurds, we warmly know better than them.
Yanê miletekî pak in, delal in. I mean they are a pure, lovely nation.
Xêr ew li ser me wiha be? Xêr emî wiha bê şin? Xêr emî wiha bê şaş... gişt mehrûm bin. Why is it like this for us? Why are we left like this? Why are we left so confused... all deprived.
Xêr em zimanê xwe nexwînin, em zimanê xelkê dixwînin. Why don't we study our own language, we study the language of others.
Naha nivî gundê me, wekî dibêjin tiltik ereban e... nîvî jê, û ji min jî ew ereba ne me dinê.. yanê erebên tavr... kevin... mantiqê dane. Now half of our village, as they say, are completely Arabs... half of it, and they are older than me in the world.. I mean the original Arabs... old... in the region.
O medrese bi zimanî wan a, dar ê wan a, xêr e qaçaxçî me, tim dereceyek di bin wan de dibin. The school is in their language, the stick (authority) is theirs, like smugglers, we are always put a degree below them.
Lê heger bi zimanî me biya, kesî kurmanc ji wan ji me dibir ma? But if it were in our language, would anyone of them beat a Kurmanc?
Em gişt di bekeloryayê da mezinê Ereb me da dikirin di bin xwe de bi Erebî xwend. We all in the baccalaureate were surpassing the greatest Arabs, studying under them in Arabic.
Bi Erebî dayîn dikirin, xaseten wan şebabê me ku niha kitêb derxistine. They were giving exams in Arabic, especially those youths of ours who have now published books.
Lo xêra bi her nefesekê me nizanîn, zimanî xwa ji bîr mekin. For God's sake, with every breath we took, do not forget your language.
Ereb dibên luxet ul um, em dibên zimanî dayikê. Arabs say "lughat al-umm" (mother tongue), we say "zimanî dayikê" (mother tongue).
Ta ziman çû, her e. Noka kurmancî hinda bûye. Once the language is gone, it's all gone. Now Kurmanji is lost.
Sûriyê da cîhê ku kurmancî hinda bûye... suriyê da kurmanciya dayikê baştir e. In Syria, where Kurmanji is lost... in Syria, the mother tongue Kurmanji is better.
Di ekrada kurmanc a. Among the Kurds, it is Kurmanji.
Misiyafê gişt kurmanc a, Hama nîvî kurmanc a. In Misyaf, all are Kurmanc, in Hama, half are Kurmanc.
Himsê carekê em esker bûn derê meşa dikirin sukî wan da, min dît yek di dikanek... In Homs, once we were soldiers there, we were walking in their market, I saw someone in a shop...
Go werin cema min rûnin bi erebî, em çûn xwarê go hûn kurmanc in, min go em kurmanc in, te ji kî derê zanî? He said "Come sit by me" in Arabic, we went down, he said "You are Kurmanc", I said "We are Kurmanc, how did you know?"
Go ez ji malê xankê me. He said "I am from the Xankê family."
Go berî Babul Hûd û Babul Siba' evana gişt kurmanc bûn û em hinda bûn. He said "Before Bab al-Hud and Bab al-Siba', these were all Kurmanc and we were assimilated."
Cebel el Ekrad, rojek ez çûme derê... çam meqsedekî da meşiyam. Jabal al-Akrad, one day I went there... I walked there for a purpose.
Min taksiyek dît cema min sekinî, xortekî zêde teselî da me. I saw a taxi stopped by me, a young man greeted us warmly.
Şebabokî weha tê da ne, wele ez deqdeqî û xwaş im... There were some youths in it, by God I was happy and pleased...
Navî vî kurdî ye, min go hûn kurmanc in ereb in heyran? Min go em kurmanc in. His name was Kurdish, I said "Are you Kurmanc or Arab, dear?" I said "We are Kurmanc."
Hûn ji ku ne? Go welle em ji Cebel el Ekrad in. Nav ta yî Selman e? "Where are you from?" He said "By God, we are from Jabal al- Akrad." "Is your name Selman?"
Am hatine am derna... wî dît û me go hûn ne kurd in? Lo go wele em şêxan in, am kurmanc in. We came, we didn't go out... he saw and we said "Aren't you Kurdish?" He said "By God, we are from the Şêxan tribe, we are Kurmanc."
Cema me go, me eşayîr her min go tu ji çi yî? Min go em ji Şêrwan in. In our group, we told the tribes, I said "What are you from?" I said "We are from the Şêrwan tribe."
Go herê serserî min û çava. Lê... He said "Yes, upon my head and eyes." But...
Min go de bira... me dest da hev û xatir xwest. Wele go heger hûn ne acele bûna, em ê biçûna malê, cem me rûnişta me pirsên xweştir dikirin. I said "Well brother... we shook hands and said goodbye." By God, he said "If you weren't in a hurry, we would go home, sit together and ask more pleasant questions."
Yê zimanî xwa bermed in. Do not abandon your language.
Yek eşîra me dît, Alî Xwaca wexta ku nû partî çêbûyî. Pêşiya salan, ez esker bûm. I saw one of our tribe, Alî Xwaca when the party was newly formed. Years ago, I was a soldier.
Alî Xwaca girtin... avêtiyê... hemî wisa bû. They arrested Alî Xwaca... threw him... it was all like that.
Girtin. Di bin qalibê bûzê da datanîn ser sîngê... pêncî û heft pêncî û neh wedê da... They arrested him. They would put blocks of ice on his chest... in fifty-seven, fifty-nine...
Heta ku ew qalibê bûzê heliya û xelas bû... yekî din tanîn... wî dît wî kuştin. Until that block of ice melted and finished... they would bring another... he saw they killed him.
Ji xêra wan çi dikir yanî? For what reason were they doing that?
Ji xêra wa dikir? Hikumetê! Lê! Hikumetê! For what reason were they doing that? The government! Oh! The government!
Tu kurdî, nabê kurd hebin. Gerek hûn ereb bin. You are Kurdish, there shouldn't be Kurds. You must be Arabs.
Herê em... kurmancên me Tirkiyê sê rube'yê xwe gişt bi tirkî xeber didin. Yes, we... our Kurds in Turkey, three-quarters of them all speak in Turkish.
Sê rubeyê xwe gişt bi tirkî dayin dikin. Xwe li xelkê dikin nizanin kurmancî, xwe dîn dikin. Three-quarters of them all speak in Turkish. They act like they don't know Kurmanji to people, they act crazy.
Lo xêra çi bi serê we hatiye? For God's sake, what has happened to you?
Me ba wan da go eger em çepko diçûn ne heqîqat bûn... We went to them, we said if we went left (awry) it wouldn't be the truth...
Wan bîst û du muhafezeyan de tişt... xêr a... In those twenty-two provinces, what... is the benefit...
Go wele ez ji Elezîzê me. Min go tu ne ji Xarpêtê yî? He said "By God, I am from Elazığ." I said "Aren't you from Harput?"
Em hatin, Dîlok, xêra hûn nabêjin Dîlok e. We came to Dîlok, by God, don't you say it's Dîlok.
Min go hûn kurd û tirk gişt wek hev dibin li Tirkiyê. I said "You Kurds and Turks all become the same in Turkey."
Xwe li dewleta xwe de wek hev dibin... bes zimanê xwe muhafeze nakin. Themselves in their state become the same... but they don't preserve their language.
Ev zimanê me winda kirin... They lost our language...
Ez û xaltiya fehîmê ella yerhemha... û ehmed xalo... û ehmed apê vî... û bapîr... I and Aunt Fehîmê, God have mercy on her... and Uncle Ehmed... and Ehmed, the uncle of this one... and grandfather...
Em çûn Laziqiyê amade da me dît... lo xêra em bi erebî dixwînin. We went to Latakia prepared and we saw... By God, we are studying in Arabic.
Em çûn mektebê me bare xwe jî xwend... di wî wextî xwendina me rind bû. We went to school and we studied our own... at that time our education was good.
Bes me paşnava fêm nedikir em dixwînin. Em nizanin me'neyê xwa çi ye. But we didn't understand the meaning, we were reading. We don't know what its meaning is.
Lê. Tê herî heger bi zimanê me biya tu... tu kurmancî zanî yan tu xwenî... zikmakî tu bixwînî? Yes. You go, if it were in our language you... do you know Kurmanji or do you read... natively do you read?
Lê çawa! Yes, of course!
Tu diçûye zanîngehê? Did you go to university?
Ez diçûm zanîngehê! Ez li kû zanîngehê me, ez alim im! I went to university! Where am I at university, I am a scholar!
Yanî kesî berte alim a lê ne tu biterê alim î. Lê çawa... I mean someone before you is a scholar, but you are not just a scholar. But how...
Dîroka xwe alim im. Hevalê gundekî me ne... I am a scholar of my history. A friend of our village...
Ev Seydoyê Goranî qamûsê lixet ul kurdiyê çêkiriye li Urduniyê. This Seydoyê Goranî created the Kurdish language dictionary in Jordan.
Dibê sekê... dibê çiye? He says look... he says what?
Dibê emrê min bûye bîst û pênc sal me şorek wetaniyê bi kurmancî nizanî. Ewwel însan canê maqûl da dibê ez im. He says my age became twenty-five years, I haven't said a patriotic word in Kurmanji. The first person in a reasonable body says it's me.
Û dibê ez bûme sefîr... dibê rojekê ez çûme şîmalê Îraqê, Kerkûkê. And he says I became an ambassador... he says one day I went to Northern Iraq, to Kirkuk.
Go ez gotim eslê wî jî kurmanc a go min çawa fêm kir em bi kurmancî nizanin min da inkir in. He said, I said his origin is also Kurmanc, he said how did I understand we don't know Kurmanji, they were denying.
Go em hatin Urduniyê go rind e pîrekê me usa xwaş bû navê xwa Medîne. He said we came to Jordan, he said good, we had an old woman so nice, her name was Medîne.
Go min go "Pitê! Di kerema xwe de di heyşt rojan de kurmancî ber min bi'elimînî!" He said I said, "Baby! Please teach me Kurmanji in eight days!"
Go bila bibe. Go ber min 'elimand, 'elimand go em giheştin du şora... Şer û Şêr. She said let it be. He said she taught me, she taught me, he said we reached two words... War (Şer) and Lion (Şêr).
Şer û Şêr! Hev ku çawa bi erebî yazmîş bikira? Şer ke çawa binivîse? Şêr jî usa. War and Lion! How could he write them in Arabic? War, how to write it? Lion also like that.
Go hingî qenaatekî tam çêbû. Go min go gerek em zimanî kurdî bi luxetê latînî yazmîş bikin. Herfê latînî ye. He said then a full conviction was formed. He said I said we must write the Kurdish language with the Latin alphabet. Latin letters.
Go hingî me rabû qamûsek çêkir enê min ew qamûs ne dîtiye... û temam a. He said then we stood up and made a dictionary, well I haven't seen that dictionary... and it's complete.
Lê şebab belav dibin em werin li ya pê bilind bikin. But the youths are scattering, let's come and raise it to a higher level.
Lê. Yes.
Zimanê xwa muhafeze bikin, hattanî naha usa ne. Preserve your language, until now it is like this.
Xweya ew tiştekî wan e bes zimanê xwa muhafeze bikin, bila zimanê me nêra! It seems it's their thing, but preserve your language, don't let our language be gone!
Lê we salê, berî van muşkilan ez li Helebê mame weke mişref... But that year, before these problems I stayed in Aleppo as a supervisor...
Em çûn û... dukanekî wan heye em rûniştin wê di qezaya ko ketin wir derê. We went and... they have a shop, we sat there in the problem that happened there.
Yek rabû go Ehmed min go evana herdu kurmanc in dinêrim bi erebî dayîn dikin. Someone stood up and said "Ehmed, I said these two are Kurmanc, I look they are talking in Arabic."
Welle hat û ket pêş. Lo min go hûn kurmanc in, ereb in heyran? Em bi xwa zimanî xwa dikanin. By God he came and stepped forward. By God I said "Are you Kurmanc or Arab, dear? We ourselves can speak our language."
Yekî go "Apê wele ez ji xelkê şaş im, ereb in. Bes evên malê me ji Efrînê da divê em nikarin bi erebî dayîn dikin a." One said "Uncle, by God I am confused by the people, they are Arabs. But these of our family are from Afrin, they say we cannot, they are talking in Arabic."
Te ji ku ye lo? Go wele ez ji Xezewiyê me. "Where are you from, man?" He said "By God, I am from Xezawî."
Min... min ji malê kê yî? Go ez ji malê Qerdeş im... Îz dîn e. I... I said "From whose family are you?" He said "I am from Qardeş family... Izdin."
Tu fedî dikî yaram? Tu rutbe li ser pî xwe dikî axaftina xwe bi erebî. Are you ashamed, my friend? You put a rank above yourself speaking in Arabic.
Ma nizane... min go qurbet bi qurbetê. Bi xêr xwe ne çûne Helebê da her male li derekê, heta niha ko zimanî xwa bernadane. Maybe he doesn't know... I said exile by exile. Fortunately, they went to Aleppo, each family in a place, until now they haven't abandoned their language.
Ernawid her malek wan li derekê ye... heta naha go bi zimanê ernawidî dayin dikin. The Arnauts (Albanians), every family of theirs is in a place... until now they speak in the Arnaut language.
Ê me! Em her kurmanciyek çêbe em gî wenda dibin. Kurmancî Humsê gî wenda bûye, kurmancî Sehlê gî wenda bûye. But us! Whatever Kurmanji is created, we all get lost. The Kurmanji of Homs is all lost, the Kurmanji of Sahl is all lost.
Lo kurmancî Efrînê wenda bûye... Oh, the Kurmanji of Afrin is lost...
Herê Efrîn... da kurmanc erebî dayin dikin... heta naha. Yes, Afrin... there the Kurds speak Arabic... until now.
Lo xwa xistina kurmancî dayîn dikin... Xêra an erebî dayin dikin, rutbe li ser pê wan e? Oh, they force themselves to speak Kurmanji... By God, do those speaking Arabic have a rank above them?
Tine yanî... There isn't, I mean...
Lê ya ku nû fahm nakin... paşketin e. But what they don't understand now... is backwardness.
Lê we çima em zimanê xwe muhafeze kirin? Li nava em pir in... But why did we preserve our language? Among those, we are many...
Em pir in... û li aliyê din jî... payeyên me fahmkar hebûn. Rewşenbîrê me hebûn, zanyarê me hebûn. Lê. We are many... and on the other hand... we had understanding leaders. We had intellectuals, we had scholars. Yes.
Efrîn sê sed û nod û pênc gund in... gund gişt... Efrîn çima çêbû ye? Afrin is three hundred and ninety-five villages... all villages... why was Afrin created?
Hezar... hezar û nehsad û bîst û sêyan da çê bûye. Berê Efrîn tine bû! It was created in thousand... thousand nine hundred and twenty-three. Before, there was no Afrin!
Fransa daxil... hezar û neh sed... Siykes Picot lê ketin... France entered... thousand nine hundred... Sykes-Picot took place...
Am ji Kilîsê xet xetî bûn, hinek jî ser Rihaniyê va bûn. We were divided from Kilis, some were attached to Reyhanli.
Daxilî hudûd lê ketin, Ferensa çêkir, gereke minteqekê deyne. Berê diçûn Helebê... navî wî Mabat a. The borders entered, France created it, it had to establish a region. Before, they would go to Aleppo... its name was Ma'bat.
Gundek hebû, bes bacarê Efrîn tine bû. There was a village, but there was no city of Afrin.
Bacar tine bû, lê gundî hebûn gîha ne. There was no city, but there were villages.
Bîst û du da Ferensa rabû avana çêkir ortê vê minteqê da. Û çiqas gundê kurmanca gî bi hev va girêdan, ba şemendiferê re... Helebê... Ezaz... û navenda wê naha Efrîn e. In twenty-two, France rose and created these in the middle of this region. And they connected all the Kurmanc villages, by the train track... Aleppo... Azaz... and its center is now Afrin.
Bes we bal we xwa pê da, xwestine... Ezaz re ta bi Efrîn. But you gave yourself to it, you wanted... Azaz to Afrin.
Yanî wê hingê eger kurmancan zanî bûna di destê Ferensa da bigirtana, bi xwedê Ferensa tiştên baştir dida wan. I mean, if the Kurmancs had known and held onto France's hand back then, by God, France would have given them better things.
Nezan bûn, gî bûn a mîrovên merû, dayikên me ji hev wisa terikîn. They were ignorant, all became common people, our mothers were abandoned from each other like that.
E ma bi kîjan dipeyivîn? What were they speaking with?
Ha wisa... hertiştî me, hef xetî me, hef gundê me dîyalekta wê heye. Wê dibên siberge. Am dibên miştik mal a. Like that... everything of ours, every line of ours, every village of ours has its dialect. They say "siberge". We say "miştik" for home.
Ew dibên wer ve derê, ew dibên we derîk. They say "come here" (wer ve derê), they say "we derîk" (that door/place).
Wan şora qad da em dibên nîvro jê, ew dibên nîro! In those words we say "nîvro jê" (noon too), they say "nîro"!
Na na em dibên nîvro jê! No, no, we say "nîvro" too!
Wê jî dibên "çap", ew dibên "çap". She also says "çap". They say "çap" (left).
Aw qapî, qapî bi Tirkî ye, derî bi kurmancî ye. Berê te bi qapî digirtin niha derî bigrin. That "qapî" (door), "qapî" is in Turkish, "derî" is in Kurmanji. Before they used to hold you by the "qapî", now hold the "derî".
Niha qeyp e bi kurmancî. Now "qeyp" is in Kurmanji.
Elhamdulîllah. Praise be to God.
Yanî wekî di bîro, şebabên me çêbûne, o serê me pê bilind e. I mean, as in memory, our youths have been born, and our heads are high because of it.
O xwedê me bigihîne xwestekê me! And may God let us reach our desires!
Amîn. Xwedê te bigihîne xwestekê te û xwedê vî zulmê li ser me rake. Amen. May God let you reach your desires and may God lift this oppression from us.
Welle em ji xelkê hez dikin. Welle em çi dixwazin xelkê pêk bîne heqîqet em dixwazin. Bes heqê me jî heye, em jî însan in. By God, we love people. By God, whatever we want the people to achieve, we truly want. But we also have rights, we are also humans.
Em jî însan in! Em jî însan in! Welle me zerar bi xelkê nekiriye. We are also humans! We are also humans! By God, we haven't harmed the people.
Me bar xelkê xwîna xwa rêmkiriya, derkiriya... We shed our blood for the people, expelled...
Welle me bar Tirka ve herb kiriye... welle me bar Sûriyê ve herb kiriye... me bar Iraqê ve herb kiriye. By God, we fought for the Turks... by God, we fought for Syria... we fought for Iraq.
Me çi kiriye? Ew ne ziman xêra... What have we done? They don't know the benefit...
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Gundê Basûtê... ji cîhên herî xweş û yên navdar ê bajarê Efrînê ye. The village of Basûtê... is one of the most beautiful and famous places in the city of Afrin.
Ji ber vê yekê, her salan, bi sedan kes ji derveyî Efrînê têne seredana gund dikin. Because of this, every year, hundreds of people from outside of Afrin come to visit the village.
Yanî em dikarin bêjin, ji parêzgehên wekî Helebê, Humsê, Laziqiyê û Şamê û Îdlibê têne vir derê... seredana vir dikin û kêfa xwe li vir derê derbas dikin. I mean we can say, from provinces like Aleppo, Homs, Latakia, Damascus, and Idlib, they come here... they visit here and spend their leisure time here.
Yanî em dikarin bibêjin ku ev ji aliyê geştiyariyê ve gelekî dewlemend e û yekemîn di bajarê Efrînê de ye. I mean we can say that this is very rich in terms of tourism and is the first in the city of Afrin.
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Merheba. Hello.
Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome.
Destpêkê em te nas bikin. First, let us get to know you.
Navê min Me'rûf e. Ez ji Basûtê me. My name is Ma'ruf. I am from Basuta.
Xwediyê me'tema Nebe'e bi Erebî, bi Kurmancî Serî Kaniyê vê ra dibêjin. Owner of the "Nabaa" restaurant in Arabic, and in Kurmanji they call it "Serî Kaniyê" here.
Berî em herin ser me'tema te... Before we talk about your restaurant...
Gelekî navdar e. Yanî kî tê Basûtê, gerek were vê derê. It's very famous. I mean, whoever comes to Basuta, they must come here.
Em destpêkê dixwazin bizanibin navê gundê we ji ku derê hatiye, paşê vê me'temê. First, we want to know where the name of your village came from, then this restaurant.
Navê vê me'temê bixwe Basût, siyahî ye. The name of this restaurant itself is Basut, it is a touristic spot.
Alem pir ji derûdoran dihatin, siyah... Ji Lubnanê, ji Helebê dihatin... Tourists used to come a lot from all around. They would come from Lebanon, from Aleppo...
Li vê me'temê rûdiniştin. And they would sit in this restaurant.
Xwarinên me pir xweş bûn, pir nav derket. Our food was very delicious, it became very famous.
Yanî pir navê me derket, pir xweş bû, pir delal bû. I mean, our name was very well known, it was very nice, it was beautiful.
Temam. Naha navê... Serî Kaniyê. Ji ber çi we nav lê kir Serî Kaniyê, ev me'tem? Okay. Now the name... Serî Kaniyê. Why did you name this restaurant Serî Kaniyê?
Ji ber kaniyek heye... kaniyek heye... Because there is a spring... there is a spring...
Li ber me'temê ye, ji bo wî me nav lê kir Serî Kaniyê. It's right next to the restaurant, that's why we named it Serî Kaniyê.
Û me'tem li ser kaniyê ye gazî. And the restaurant is right on the spring itself.
Temam, dixwazim tu ji me re bibêjî, di kîjan salê de we ev me'tem çêkir? Yes.
Temam, dixwazim tu ji me re bibêjî, di kîjan salê de we ev me'tem çêkir? Okay, I want you to tell us, in what year did you build this restaurant?
Û çi wextî bû û destpêkê hûn bûn an na? And when was it, and were you there from the start or not?
Me vê me'temê me dest pê kir, salên heftê û heftê û heftan me dest pê kir. We started this restaurant, we started it in the years 70-77.
Me'temek pir kevn e. It's a very old restaurant.
Sala 70-77'an me dest pê kir. We started it in the years 70-77.
Û destpêkê da pir piçûk bû em ji binyadê de balişîn (dest pê kirin). And in the beginning it was very small, we started from the foundation.
Bes du ode bûn, me dest pê kir. It was just two rooms, we started it.
Yavaş yavaş şixul hat, çêbû, siyah hatin, derbûn... Slowly the work came, it flourished, tourists came, they showed up...
Me mezin kir, me pêş da, me fere kir. We expanded it, we advanced it, we broadened it.
Destpêkê te vekir, an na? Bavê te kir? Did you open it initially, or not? Did your father?
Na, destpêkê kalê min bû, Xwedê rehma xwe lê ke. No, initially it was my grandfather, may God have mercy on him.
Ji dû re, bavê min û apê min dest pê kirin. After that, my father and my uncle started it.
Temam kirin, çêkirin. They completed it, they built it.
Dêmek mîras e we fehm kiriye, yanî berê de piçûk bû, du ode bûn, paşê we mezin kirin. So it means you inherited it, I understand. In the past it was small, two rooms, then you expanded it.
Belê, paşê me mezin kir. Yes, later we expanded it.
Kalê min çêkir, piştî kalê min bavê min û apê min dest pê kirin, mezin kirin, fere kirin. My grandfather built it, after my grandfather, my father and my uncle started, expanded it, broadened it.
Û paşî wê de me'tem teslîmî we bû, we mezin kir... yan wekî berê ma? And after that, the restaurant was handed over to you, did you expand it... or did it stay as before?
Na wekî berê ma, piştî ehdas derketin. No, it stayed as before, after those events happened.
Û elhemdulîlah şixulê me rûyê yavaş yavaş dîsa dimeşe, ji berê çêtir dibe yavaş yavaş. And thank God our work is slowly picking up again, it's getting better than before, slowly.
Em dixwazin behsa siyahê... We want to talk about the tourists...
Yê dihatin vê derê berê... Who used to come here in the past...
Belê. Yes.
Berî vê çend salan. Kî dihatin vê derê? Ji bo çi dihatin vê derê? Yanî ji ku derê bi taybetî dihatin em dixwazin bizanibin. Years ago. Who used to come here? Why did they come here? I mean, we want to know where they specifically came from.
Siyah ji me re dihatin, ji Helebê dihatin. Tourists used to come to us, they would come from Aleppo.
Pir ji Lubnanê dihatin. A lot of them came from Lebanon.
Dihatin, ceme Asar hebûn, li E'ndarê. They would come, there were historical ruins, in Ain Dara.
Dihatin digeriyan, li mentîqê digeriyan, li cihê asarên hanî digeriyan, xelas dikirin, dihatin cem me jî nanê xwe dixwarin û diçûn. They would come and tour, they would tour the area, tour the ruins, when they finished, they would come to us to eat and go.
Li vir vedihisîn. They would rest here.
Erê, li vir vedihisîn, li vir nanê xwe dixwarin û diçûn. Yes, they would rest here, they would eat their food here and go.
Û naha, kî tê me'temê? And now, who comes to the restaurant?
Naha, ji Efrînê de dîsa xelkê Helebê vedigerin tên cem me, cem me nan dixwin. Now, from Afrin, again people from Aleppo are returning and coming to us, they eat food with us.
Spasiya te dikim. I thank you.
Seheta te xweş. Bless you.
Seheta te xweş. May you be healthy.
Ya te jî pir xweş. Xweştir bî, seheta te jî xweş. And you too. May you be happier, may you be healthy too.
Gundê Basûtê. Basuta Village.
Li başûrê bajarê Efrînê dikeve. Û neh kîlometreyan ji navenda bajar ve dûr dikeve. It is located south of the city of Afrin. And it is nine kilometers away from the city center.
Li derdora vî gundî, ev qas tiştên xweşik hene: Around this village, there are so many beautiful things:
Heşînayî, darên fêkî, bîstan, ava kaniyê... û gelek tiştên din jî hene. Greenery, fruit trees, orchards, spring water... and many other things too.
Yanî em karin bibêjin; her tiştê ku dilê mirov bikişîne yan jî bixwaze, wê li vê derê bibîne. I mean we can say; everything that attracts or desires a person's heart, they will find it here.
Hejmara malên gundê Basûtê nêzî şeş sed û pêncî malan e... The number of houses in Basuta Village is about six hundred and fifty houses...
Û çar hezar û pênc sed kes li vê derê dijîn. And four thousand five hundred people live here.
Belê temaşevanên hêja, Yes, dear viewers,
Naha em bi xalê Cemîl re ne... yan jî bavê Mihemed. Now we are with uncle Jamil... or the father of Mihemed.
Em hatin cem wî, mala wî... We have come to him, to his house...
Me serdana wî kir ji ber ku em dixwazin li ser gundê Basûtê, tiştkî biaxive. We visited him because we want him to talk a bit about Basuta Village.
Merheba xalê Mihemed. Hello, uncle Mihemed.
Wî ehlen we sehlen... Ser serî, ser çava. Oh welcome... You are most welcome.
Bi hatina we, em gelekî kêfxweş in û mît ehlen we sehlen. With your arrival, we are very happy and a hundred times welcome.
Ellah yselmek. May God protect you.
Em dixwazin ku, tiştkî ji me re li ser gundê Basûtê biaxivî. We want you to tell us a little something about Basuta Village.
Î... Ehlen we sehlen. Eh... Welcome.
Basût kevnar e. Basût gundekî kevn e. Basuta is ancient. Basuta is an old village.
Tarîxa Basûtê pir kevn e. The history of Basuta is very old.
Em niha em nizanin ev çiqa kevn e. Em bêjin... We right now don't know exactly how old it is. Let's say...
Basût... bi ava... ava xwe. Basuta... with its water... its water.
Bi dar û barê xwe, bi heşînayiya xwe, bi çiyayê xwe... With its trees, with its greenery, with its mountain...
Bi mentîqeya xwe... mentîqeyên wekî siyahî... bi mexsefê xwe ye, bi hewayê xwe ye. With its region... tourist areas... with its resorts, with its weather.
Elhemdulîlah ji Xwedê re. Ne ji niha de... ji hezaran salan de Basût meşhûr e. Thank God. Not just from now... Basuta has been famous for thousands of years.
Belê. Yes.
Û şuhreta Basûtê jî... ji destpêka xwe de, ev ava... ava kaniyê ye. Ava kaniyê jî... And the fame of Basuta too... from its beginning, is this water... the spring water. And the spring water...
Heşînayî de, heşîn bûn çêbûn, dar û bar çêbûn... Among the greenery, it became green, trees grew...
Û Basût, navûdengê wê çû, bi sîtê hinaran... heta hinara Basûtê li alemê de meşhûr bû. And Basuta, its fame spread, with the reputation of pomegranates... even Basuta's pomegranates became famous in the world.
Û elhemdulîlah ji Xwedê re, heta roja îro jî, em xelkê xerîb jî dibînin, em wekî dibêjin kanin pê re bidin û bistînin... And thank God, even to this day, we see foreign people too, we can interact with them as they say...
Û heta ev ezme li ser me re jî derbas bûn, em pê ne hesidîn. And even when these crises passed over us, we didn't get affected.
Xêr e, ji berê de Basût alemî ye, bi însanê xerîb re didin û distînin. It's good, Basuta has been global since the past, interacting with foreign people.
Û elhemdulîlah. Thank God.
Te... ji me re behsa kaniyê û ava wê kir. You... told us about the spring and its water.
Dixwazim tu li ser ava wê, hinekî biaxivî. I want you to talk a little bit about its water.
Em dibînin ku li vê derê av çawa ye... We see how the water is here...
Bixwedê kaniya... Berê em wisa hizir dikirin, kaniya Basûtê, kaniyek zêran bû. By God, the spring... In the past we used to think, Basuta's spring was a spring of gold.
Basût bi kaniyê meşhûr bû... bi ava xwe. Û ava wê, sihhî ye. Basuta was famous for its spring... for its water. And its water is healthy.
Xubera hatin. Ava kaniyê tehlîl kirin. Ava kaniyê, teqrîben wekî ava Fîjê derket. Experts came. They analyzed the spring water. The spring water came out almost like Fiji water.
Yanî çi av... çayê çêke, çayê jî ji ava kaniyê çêke navê... ahana... kils tê de nîne. I mean whatever water... make tea, if you make tea with the spring water it won't have... uh... lime scale in it.
Sihhî sedî sed e. It's one hundred percent healthy.
Kaniya ji ku derê avê dide te? Where does the spring give you water from?
Bixwedê mamo... kanî bi xwe... ev... ji me re hiştin... ev nafaq. By God, uncle... the spring itself... this... they left it for us... this tunnel.
Nafaq... di dema berî vê ne bi fatrekê... dema ne... zuhabûn çêbûyî, The tunnel... in the past not long ago... when the drought happened,
Li Basûtê kanî ava wê hişk nebû. In Basuta, the spring didn't dry up its water.
Û ne lîviya. And it didn't decrease.
Îlla vê taliyê... Except recently...
Basût ev bîrên artêzî lê xistin... di ser xetê. Basuta drilled these artesian wells... on the line.
Çiçkî tesîr li ava kaniyê kir û noka jî, tesîrek mezin mezin mezin... ava kaniyê jê birrî ye. It affected the spring water a little and now too, a great great great effect... the spring water is cut off from it.
Ko me li ser avê da kir, em dixwazin tu ji me re hinekî behsa... darên hinaran wê bikî. Since we talked about the water, we want you to tell us a little bit about its pomegranate trees.
Darên hinarê li Basûtê. The pomegranate trees in Basuta.
Welleh te wekî dibêjin, te derbek mezin li vî dilî xist. By God, as they say, you've struck a great blow to this heart.
Basût berê da... paşîn de... bi avê meşhûr e. Basuta in the past... previously... was famous for its water.
Û hinarên Basûtê jî ji ber vê avê dihatin çandin. Û ji ber vê avê dihatin avdan. And Basuta's pomegranates were planted because of this water. And they were watered because of this water.
Ê noka... ev cefafa çêbûyî, û ev ava kêm bûyî, bûye sedemek ku, wekî muşkelek çêbû, av, hinar, hukumê wan... nîvê wan nema. But now... this drought that happened, and this water that decreased, became a reason that, like a problem occurred, the water, pomegranates, their condition... half of them disappeared.
Darên hinarê yê Basûtê... Basût bi navê hinarê meşhûr bû... Lê bes noka jî wekî ku em dibêjin, em bixwe hesreta hinarê dikin. The pomegranate trees of Basuta... Basuta was famous for its pomegranates... But now as we say, we ourselves long for the pomegranates.
Çi sedem e? Cew, û bî'e û ev zirûfên di ser me de hatî. What's the reason? The weather, the environment, and these circumstances that fell upon us.
Yanî ma ne heram e Basût... navê wê di alemê de... alem çi qas mezin e... navê Basûtê di alemê de derketibû... Bi çi? Bi hinarên xwe. I mean, isn't it a pity for Basuta... its name in the world... the world is so big... Basuta's name was known in the world... With what? With its pomegranates.
Tu kanî ji me re... enwe'ên hinarê... te'dad bikî? Can you name... the types of pomegranates for us?
Li cem te meselen... destpêkê wekî tê gotin... serikê hinarê, dibêjin hinarê lefwan. For example... at the beginning as it's said... the top of the pomegranates, they call it the Lefwan pomegranate.
Hinarê lefwan weha serikê hinarê ye... ev fawakeh ku... yê tewrî xweş... di dunyayê de... û mirov pê kêf û tehmê jê dibîne, û hem jî, ew sihhî ye. The Lefwan pomegranate is the best of pomegranates... this fruit that... is the most delicious... in the world... and a person enjoys it, and gets taste from it, and also, it is healthy.
Niha xêre dibêjin hinar... binihêre niha, ava wê... dermanê canînsêrê ye. Now well they say pomegranate... look now its juice... is a medicine for cancer.
Tenê yê hinarê, dermanê canînsêrê ye. Qalikê wê, derman e... Tiştek ji hinarê ku were avêtin nîne. Pomegranate alone is a medicine for cancer. Its peel is medicine... There is nothing from the pomegranate to throw away.
Dimsê hinarê, dizanî noka yek bi sermê dikeve... zivistanê dibêjin... yek kevçik dims bidiyê. Pomegranate molasses, you know now if someone catches a cold... in the winter they say... give him a spoon of molasses.
Ê tiştek ji hinarê xweştir tune. Well, there is nothing more delicious than pomegranates.
Paşê dudu wî tê, meselen... yê tirş heye... Then comes the second one, for example... there is the sour one...
Yê qaliksor ê tirş heye. There is the sour red-peel one.
Ê şêrîn sê ne'wa ne. The sweet one has three types.
Kuncil heye... Û dendikzer heye... Û digotin dendikdar. There is Kuncile... and there is yellow-seed... and they used to say seeded.
Ew jî heye. Difikirî yê fransî? Ev fransî jî... That one is there too. Are you thinking of the French one? The French one too...
fransî mezin in... they are big like French (ones)...
...bes rengê xwe... ...but their color...
...çawa te... ...how did you...
...selatê, tu dizanî pajiya, di nava baxçeyên malan da,... ...the salad, you know the portion, in the gardens of the houses,...
...sor mîna, mîna baca sor dibin, mîna firingîyan... ...they get red like, like red tomatoes, like tomatoes...
...û yên tenê xwe ew reş dibin. ...and the ones by themselves become black.
Hundirê wan dibin, hundirê xwe sor dikin. Their insides become, their insides become red.
Û hûn ji bo çi bi kar tînin? Diçin çiyanî? And what do you use them for? Do you go to the mountains?
Bi Xwedê zêdetirîn wek derman e. By God, they are mostly used as medicine.
Naha ez kîjanê bidim te,... Now whichever one I give you,...
...heke ev ava wê, wêne wered, basikên ku kêzik bi ser da ketibe,... ...if its juice, the picture comes, the wings that an insect has fallen upon,...
...sê-çar rojan lê dewan bike, kêzik pêşda diçe. ...if you apply it for three or four days, the insect will go away.
Însên, mirov nexweş dikeve... Humans, when a person gets sick...
...yanî ev gişt... ...I mean, all of these...
...îlaca canê mirov e. ...are medicine for the human body.
Spasiya te dikim. I thank you.
Saeta te xweş! May you be healthy.
Saeta te xweş! Have a good time!
Ehlen û sehlen. Welcome.
Û amadebûna we, û rûniştina we, em pir pê xweş in. And your presence, and your visit, we are very happy with it.
Û wekî te gotî, çi jî hebe,... And as you said, whatever is needed,...
...em her dem amade ne. ...we are always ready.
Belê, hema şevanên hêja... Yes, dear viewers...
...naha em li nav bostanên gundê Basûtê ne. ...now we are in the orchards of Basuta village.
Ev bostanên ku darên fêkî lê hene. These orchards which have fruit trees.
Naha xelk li vir derê hene fêkîyan... Now the people here have fruits...
...berhev dikin, em ê derbasî cem gundiyan bibin. ...they are harvesting them, we will go to the villagers.
Û em ê bizanibin ku çawa vî karî dikin. And we will learn how they do this work.
Merheba! Hello!
Ehlen û sehlen! Welcome!
Destpêkê em te nas bikin? First, can we get to know you?
Navê min Hemîdê Şerîf e, em ji gundê Basûtê ne. My name is Hamid Sharif, we are from Basuta village.
Belê. Yes.
Wekî diyar e, em naha hatine çefteliya berhev dikin. As is apparent, we have now come to harvest the peaches.
Ev meha şeşê ye... It is the sixth month...
...bayî destpêka çefteliya ye, ev meha. ...this month is just the beginning for the peaches.
Belê. Yes.
Em çefteliyan berhev dikin niha. We are harvesting peaches now.
Hûn ji çi wextî ve hatine? Since what time have you been here?
Welleh nihanî em ji saet 00:31:00'ê da hatine. By God, right now we have been here since 00:31:00.
Yekê nîvro de? At one in the afternoon?
Yekê nîvro de. At one in the afternoon.
Heyanî saet pênca, şeşa em darên xwe... Until five or six, we (harvest) our trees...
Berhevkirinek bi keda çetin e, qulabî ye? Is harvesting a difficult effort, is it tiring?
Bi xwedê qulabî ye. Na çetin e... By God, it is tiring. No, it's difficult...
Ka bişên min berhev kin em bibînin. Come show me how you harvest, let's see.
Camanekî dest pê dikin, naha ev... In a little while they start, now this...
...naha ev daxwera sitî ye, bes... ...now this is the desire of the lady, but...
...berî naha me di naqan. ...before now we were picking them.
Çend cure naha li vê bostanê hene? How many types are there in this orchard now?
Bi xwedê naha, ê ewilî hebûn, ew ewilî me xilas kirin. By God, now, there were early ones, we finished the early ones.
Naha ev ya ha ye. Now it is this one.
Ê naha dibin, meha şeşê dibin. The ones that are ripening now, they ripen in the sixth month.
Gelek ji wan di vê mehê re dibin. Many of them ripen through this month.
Ew jî meha dîtir em ê dest pê bikin. We will start the others next month.
Naha ku em li nav bostanên din dinêrin kes hene, hin kesên din hene? Now as we look at other orchards, are there people, are there other people?
Eşya aw na, ê me heta naha, evî jî ê naha ne, em naha rasî dikişin. Those things, no, ours until now, these are the ones for now, we are currently picking the ripe ones.
Em dinêrin we xilas kirine. We see you have finished.
Naha we ji vê derê berhev kir, hûn dibin kû derê? Now you harvested from here, where are you taking them?
Am dibin ser komê, bo wî tiştî dikişînin. We take them to the pile, for that thing they are picking.
Ser komê safî dikin, radibin diçin... At the pile they clear them out, they get up and go...
...ha wî, sûkê Efrînê. ...that one, to the Afrin market.
Li sûkê difiroşin? Do they sell at the market?
Dikin qefesa û radibin... They put them in crates and get up...
...diçin şihne. ...they go to be shipped.
Şihne derdixe... dewleta derve. The shipping takes them out... to the state abroad.
Qewet be, destên we sax bin! More power to you, bless your hands!
Sax bin, hûn her hebin, û em bi we kêfxweş bûn. Bless you, may you always be, and we were happy with you.
Saetên te xweş. Have a good time.
Merheba xalo. Hello uncle.
Ehlen û sehlen. Welcome.
Destpêkê em te nas bikin? First, can we get to know you?
Hesen ji Basûtê. Hasan from Basuta.
Basûtê. Xalo te xêr e tu çi karî dikî naha? Basuta. Uncle, what good work are you doing now?
Welleh naha wekî hûn zanin dema çefteliya ye. By God, now as you know it is peach season.
Belê. Yes.
Basût jî... Basuta also...
...yanî meşhûr e bi ziraeta fawake. ...I mean, is famous for agriculture of fruits.
Naha wextê çefteliyan ye, xoxan e. Now is the time of peaches, of plums.
Naha ev çefteliyên te wekî diyare te anîne vê derê. Now these peaches of yours, as it seems, you brought them here.
Temam, belê. Okay, yes.
Naha tu çi dikî, tu difiroşî, tu çi dikî? Now what are you doing, are you selling, what are you doing?
Em diçin safînin, me'niya me em daxînin sûkê. We are going to sort them, our intention is to take them down to the market.
Yanî te ev saxlem derxistin? I mean, you separated the sound ones?
Tab'en ev saxlem e. Of course this is sound.
Ev jî çi ye ev? And this, what is this?
Ev madrûba wan e. This is the damaged part of them.
Ev bitenê tê firotin ev bi tenê? Is this sold on its own, this on its own?
Na ev bi tenê ev bi tenê. No, this by itself and this by itself.
Û hûn dibin kîjan derê wî? And where are you taking them?
Sûqulhal. To the wholesale market.
Kîjan wextî hûn dest pê dikin fêkî... At what time do you start the fruit...
...heta kîjan wextî meselen? ...until what time for example?
Çeftelî ji... Peaches from...
...meha pêncan da em dest pê dikin. ...the fifth month we start.
Heta teqrîben meha heştan. Until approximately the eighth month.
Enwa'a... tab'en du meh e... The varieties... of course it is two months...
...û her yek ji wî dema xwe da dibe. ...and each one of them ripens in its own time.
Çend cureyên fêkî li virê hene? How many types of fruit are there here?
Welleh yanî ev fêkî ye, ev peda... By God, I mean this is the fruit, this peda...
...yanî meşhûr, ê ku alem pê navê xwe dixe, ev mixmelî ne, yên ku we didîtin. ...I mean famous, the ones that people name, these are velvety ones, the ones you saw.
Mixmelî ne. Velvety ones.
Berî mixmelî jî heye û berî wêna jî hin dî ne. There are also ones before the velvety ones and before that there are others too.
Û piştî wê jî êdî têne xirîk. And after that the later ones come.
Haa. Aha.
Ew du mehe wê... Those two months will...
Paşîkiyo. The late ones.
Paşîkiyo wisa dibin. They become late ones like this.
Naha ew cureyê çi ye? Now what type is that?
Ev di ve wextê dibe, ev ewa... This ripens at this time, this is that...
...tab'en qelem ne ê vira ye. ...of course the cutting is not from here.
Bidebet yanî em navê vî, em navê wî nin. Exactly I mean we this name, we are its name.
Yanî em... I mean we...
...ser mixmelî da tînin hesêb. ...count it over the velvety one.
Belê û we fêkiyan difiroşin sûkê. Yes, and you sell the fruits to the market.
Es'arên wî çawa ne, xerca we derdixîne yan na? How are its prices, does it cover your expenses or not?
Welleh sal bi sal... By God, year by year...
...yanî kêmtir dibe. ...I mean it decreases.
Meşakilên xwe pir in. Its problems are many.
Yek ji wan ê raîsî av e, ava çem e, sal ko bûne. One of the main ones is water, the river water, the years are gone.
Yanî berî çemê Efrînê hebû ew jî qut e. I mean before there was the Afrin river, that is cut off too.
Yanî an nizanin bi xêre heta niha ev alem pê nakeve. I mean we don't know why, until now the people don't get into it.
Piştî em herêmeke ziraî ne, me herêmeke ziraî ye, ne sînaî ye. After all we are an agricultural region, ours is an agricultural region, not industrial.
Belê. Yes.
Yanî mişkîleya tewrê mezin di ce me av e. I mean the biggest problem for us is water.
Av nîne... There is no water...
Û çeftelî jî avê zêde dixwaze? And the peach also needs a lot of water?
Tab'en le, heru çeftelî... Of course not, everyday peach...
...mefrûde wekî niha em me berhev kir, ez diro tê de devê av bidim. ...is supposed to like now we harvested it, I must give it water for two days in it.
Yanî ji cema ov tine. I mean because we don't have water.
Teydî dît çeftelî qade qaştê hûr dikir. You saw the peach it was completely shrinking.
Bûye hûrik gelo ji boyî wê. It became small, is it because of that?
Rêjeyek mezin sir ewe. A large percentage of the secret is that.
Eşya aw na? E, meşakîlên mezin? Those things no? Are there big problems?
Ew meşakilên me e reîsî av e, ew. Our main problem is water, that's it.
Em dixwazin meselen... We want, for example...
...wada avê ji me re halekê bibînin. ...that they find a solution for us regarding the water issue.
Çi halekê bibînin. What kind of solution to find.
Çawa, tu çawa difikirî hel çawa be? How, how do you think the solution should be?
Mesela, mimkîne heş bibin wekî ava kûreyan? For example, is it possible to understand it like the water of deep wells?
Çawa berê dikirin? How did they do it before?
Ew tab'en... That of course...
...berî ava Efrînê gava ji me re te'mîn dikin gava xwe dixwastî ko te'mîn dikin. ...before the Afrin water, when they provide it for us, when they wanted to provide it.
Çi? What?
Yanî em din, em, her û bi riya... em xîzmetên me li vir wenda bûn naha her û am bi xwedî ne. I mean we give, we, everyday through... our services were lost here, now everyday we are with the owner.
Ê wilo ye. That is so.
Û cêlek me meselen, ko ni... And our generation for example, where are they...
Cêştiya we tê yê... Your desire comes...
...ji... ...from...
Ew bendavan. Those dams.
Yanî ava bendavê ji me re... I mean the dam water for us...
Wê çêbibe ewê? Will it be made, that one?
Wê çêbibe, wê wextekê me, wê tu dixtor bî. It will be made, it will be a time for us, you will be a doctor.
Eywa. Û xeyrî wî? Aha. And besides that?
Meseleya as'ar û çawa ne? How is the issue of prices?
As'ar welleh as'ar, yanî tab'en dîsa em vedigerin ji meşakilên din e. Prices by God, prices, I mean of course again we return to the other problems.
Yanî mişkîleya me e reîsî av e, u yê ew as'ar jî ji meşakilên din e. I mean our main problem is water, and the prices are also from the other problems.
Yanî em d... wexta kêm em razîbûna, bes mişkîle e ya ava ye. I mean we... when we were few, we were satisfied, but the problem is the water.
As'ar wekî gorî wextê naha... Prices, according to the current time...
...welleh navafî ne. ...by God, they don't cover it.
Yanî hûn dibînin em bidayê me, wextê ku dertêve... I mean you see we were paying, when it comes out...
...û em dibînin em bîdervekin ji vira avêtin... ...and we see we throw it out from here...
...sînorên... ...the borders...
...ziraetê wî de... ...in its agriculture...
...em mal dikin tab'en, a wê nîne em, ava winda dikin. ...we process goods of course, but it doesn't exist, we lose the water.
Na, ma gelo, we av nedîtiye? No, have you not seen water?
Yanî... ev mintiqa... I mean... this region...
...herû mînak... ...everyday for example...
...him tu dizanî bû wextê ko dertête pê... ...also you knew it was the time when it comes out with...
...him, ew tu derdiket pê, em... tu, ew... ...also, you came out with it, we... you, that...
Ew di wî demê de te dikişt ji min ra dît, ev niha herû em wendakirina me. In that time you pulled it out for me and saw, now everyday is a loss for us.
Mebesta te ew e ko daxwaziya ku te dikir tu nêzîkî serkariya wilo bî? Your point is that the request you made, you should be close to such an administration?
Cudahî di nava xweda te da, him tu dikişt nizanî de ji te bixwaze. Difference within yourself you gave, also you pulled out not knowing what it would ask of you.
Te meqseda te derdikeve, î... Your intention comes out, i...
Te meqseda te derdikeve û... Your intention comes out and...
...te we şane ku salê ku tina de mexsûr bî. ...and you have shown that you will be at a loss in the year that comes.
Tu... sal sal tu dî tê de mexsûr derkevî. You... year after year you will come out at a loss.
Yanî heta salên ku bi van xilazî derketin te, wilek de te dî... I mean until the years that ended with these came out to you, like that you saw...
Bêguman bî de. Definitely.
Te bêguman bî de. You are definitely in it.
...yanî hîç çavên me berî ma... ...I mean our eyes never remained...
wilo bê ku wê wekî van... di... wilo me... like that that it will be like these... in... like that we...
di... he... em ê meselê tişt... te... ê min... in... yes... we will for example thing... you... my...
Meşakila me wek gote a reîsî ava ye, te... Our problem as said is mainly water, you...
...tê bikanî wî helî bikî bi... me... wî... ...you will be able to solve it with... us... it...
Ev teniyê te nû veda. This thread you just laid.
Te melaş dikî vê gavê. You are fixing it now.
Te dît ku min berê wê xera dikir. You saw that I was ruining it earlier.
Berê wextê xwe te yek jê ava kir. Before its time, you built one from it.
Te ew ava nekir, rûyê din te xera dikir. You didn't build that one, you ruined the other side.
Xêr çima min xera dikir? Why on earth was I ruining it?
Çerx... tenî pir nazik e. The wheel... the thread is very delicate.
Yanî wextê xwe heye, rojê xwe heye? So it has its own time, its own day?
Teba ne, wextê xwe heye. Naturally, it has its own time.
Destê te sax bin. Bless your hands.
Sax bin. Bless you.
Merheba xaltî. Hello, aunt.
Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome.
Navê te bi xêr em te nas bikin? What is your good name so we can know you?
Navê min Fadîle Hesen e. My name is Fadile Hesen.
Başbûn ji te ra. Pleased to meet you.
Em dixwazin ji me ra hinekî behsa jinên Basûtê bikî. We want you to tell us a little bit about the women of Basute.
Çi karî dikin? Çawa derbas dibin, rojên din ê... What kind of work do they do? How do they spend their days...
Çi edat û teqalîdê wan heye? What customs and traditions do they have?
Bi xwedê jinê Basûtê, bi xwe wekî gundî... By God, the women of Basute, as villagers themselves...
Di her karekî da arî mêrê xwe dikin. They help their husbands in every task.
Yanî tu dibînî Basûtê bi xwe şixulê xwe pir e. I mean, as you see, Basute itself has a lot of work.
Yanî fêkî ye, xudre ye, tiştên wan yekî diçînin. I mean there are fruits, vegetables, things they plant.
Ê fe, mil bi mil, dest bi dest, yanî bi mêr ra ye, û karê malê jî dike. So, shoulder to shoulder, hand in hand, they are with the men, and they do the housework too.
Yanî bi xwe jin, tu dibînî... nîvî muctema e. I mean, as you see, the woman herself... is half of society.
Belê. Yes.
E fe, em jî bi xwe tebîî gundî me. So, we ourselves are naturally villagers.
Em jin, gava tev mêr naşixulin, karê me nabe. If we women don't work with the men, our work doesn't get done.
Yanî çawa wek jinê Basûtê... dema fêkî derdikeve, ew jî wî karî dikin? So how is it for the women of Basute... when the fruits come out, do they do that work too?
Her wextê. Her wextê, ling bi ling em bi mêr ra ne. All the time. All the time, step by step, we are with the men.
Û em tên mal jî, karê malê jî dikin. And when we come home, we do the housework too.
Ê ka em noka, ser mûneyê jî dengin. Now, let's talk about the provisions too.
Mûne, mûneyên malê hûn çi çêdikin? Provisions, what household provisions do you make?
Bi xwedê, mûneyê, em tiştan gî çêdikin. By God, provisions, we make all kinds of things.
Wekî meselen naha destpêkê em reçela çêdikin. For example, now we start by making jam.
Piştî wê, meselen wextê dimsê hinarê, em dimsê hinarê çêdikin. After that, for example, at the time of pomegranate molasses, we make pomegranate molasses.
Em cîmalên xwemalî... We make domestic supplies...
Tu ji me ra behsa dimsê hinarê bikî, hûn çawa dimsê hinarê çêdikin? Can you tell us about pomegranate molasses, how do you make pomegranate molasses?
Bi xwedê dimsê hinarê, hinarê em î beraf dikin. By God, the pomegranate molasses, we gather the pomegranates.
Em tînin, wan yê paqij û yê xerabûyî... We bring them, the clean ones and the spoiled ones...
Em qut dikin, paqij dikin. We cut them, clean them.
Em dadweşînin, em malê tev mat e. We knock out the seeds, everyone at home does it.
Û em dimsê xwe, wekî te gotî, dadiweşînin, taneyê xwe dikin tûr. And our molasses, as you said, we knock out the seeds, we put the seeds in a sack.
Êlê dikin, dikin av, wê avê em dikelînin. We squeeze them, turn them into juice, we boil that juice.
Ew ava teqrîben şeş, heft saetan me re dikişîne... That juice takes approximately six, seven hours for us...
Ser êgir. On the fire.
Ser êgir, erê. On the fire, yes.
Û piştî kelînê, em datînin, em sar dikin, bera nava şûşeyên xwe dikin. And after boiling, we take it off, we cool it, and pour it into our bottles.
Ê, em ji malên xwe ra mûneyê radikin... Yes, we make provisions for our homes...
Em difiroşin jî, em difiroşin. We sell it too, we sell it.
Û xeynî wê, çi mûneyê we hûn çêdikin? And besides that, what provisions do you make?
Mûneyê na dî nîn e, naha meselen reçel... Not just other provisions, now for example jam...
Dimsê... em çar cure mişmişan me çêkir. Molasses... we made four types of apricots.
Ê, piştî wê naha... bulxur, wextê bulxur em tê bulxur dikelînin. Yes, after that now... bulgur, at the time of bulgur we boil bulgur.
Em bulxur bi xwe dikelînin... sal bi sal bi xwe dikelînin. We boil the bulgur ourselves... year by year we boil it ourselves.
Em dibin daşarê, dikutin, dihêrin, û tînin. We take it to the mill, pound it, grind it, and bring it.
Ev bi salan e, ev tişt em dikelînin. For years, we have been boiling these things.
Heta naha erê, ew hîn ev karî ra dabeş dibin... Up until now yes, they still divide this work...
Heta niha erê em dikin a. Until now, yes we do it.
Meselen em dan tînin... me'nî em dikin şorbe, em dikin kutehî... For example, we bring crushed wheat... I mean we make soup, we make kutehi...
Dan jî em teyîn dikin, ew jî dikelînin. We lay out the crushed wheat too, we boil that too.
Û xeynî wî? And besides that?
Û xeynî wî, meselen naha demaxên... nîsk, nok... And besides that, for example now grains... lentils, chickpeas...
Ev mûneyên malê, ev tiştan em gî dî dîn in. These household provisions, we find all of these things.
Dimsê sêva darê? Apple tree molasses?
Dimsê sêva... nîn e, wext nabe em çê kin. Apple molasses... there is none, we don't have time to make it.
Dimsê sêvan em çê nakin... We don't make apple molasses...
Em bacanan tînin meselen, naha em dikelînin. We bring tomatoes for example, now we boil them.
Gî dikin qetremîzan... ma ji zivistanê. We put them all in jars... for the winter.
Meselen lûpik e, fasûlye ne, tiştên waha ne... For example, green beans, beans, things like that...
Ê hişk dikin, hişk dikin. Û yê dikin qetremîzan, dikin qetremîzan. Some we dry, we dry them. And some we put in jars, we put in jars.
Yê ku di beradan da, beradan em vedişêrin... The ones for the fridge, we hide them in the fridge...
Ev mûneyên zivistanê ra, em van tiştan gî çêdikin. Belê. For the winter provisions, we make all these things. Yes.
Ka tu ji me ra behsa xwendewanên... li Basûtê bikî. Can you tell us about the students... in Basute.
Bi xwedê hene, niha cîlê noka pir dixwîne. By God there are, now the current generation studies a lot.
Ê... berê mumkûn e hindik xwendibûn. Well... in the past, maybe fewer studied.
Bes naha ne, hene xwendewan. But now, there are students.
Yanî gihîştine... wekî dibêjin camîa jî xelas kirin e, hinek camîa dixwînin. I mean they have reached... as they say, they finished university, some are studying in university.
Û divê herbê da jî, çîçkî tesîr bû li ser xwendina me. And in this war too, it had a little effect on our education.
Meselen, hinek ji xwendinê man... hinek karê xwe berdewam kir. For example, some stayed behind in their education... some continued their work.
Xwendewanên ku dixwînin, ev jî kar dikin di mal de, li derve...? Do the students who study also work at home, outside...?
Erê, erê. Cama... e, Basûtê xwendin, didomin. Yes, yes. In university... yes, in Basute they study, they continue.
Ê... ku kar bike jî wextê em neşixulin, em nikarin bijîn. Belê. Yes... even if they work, if we don't work, we can't survive. Yes.
Yanî da ku wekî dibêje arî mêr nekin, em nikarin. I mean, as they say, if we don't help the men, we can't.
Karê me tebîet e, em wekî wî dixwazin. Our work is natural, we want it like that.
Em jin, wekî dibêjin, em civaka, nîvî muctema dibînin. We women, as they say, see ourselves as half the community, half of society.
E... da ku em xwe nîvî mêr... dibînin, em gav bi gav em pê ra ne. Yes... since we see ourselves as half of the men... we are with them step by step.
Ez ê tiştekî din ji te pirs bikim. I will ask you something else.
Fermo. Go ahead.
Berê, dema dawet an kêş hebû, jin tişt çêdikirin. In the past, when there was a wedding or such, women made things.
Cihêz, ev tişt... hîn hene li Basûtê? Trousseau, these things... are they still there in Basute?
Bi xwedê naha kêm e. By God, now it's less.
Naha... naha, tew bûkên noka tiştên wargî... ew nakin zêde. Now... now, the brides of today don't do those things much.
Berê heba qenewîç heba, teşû heba, tentene heba. In the past there was cross-stitch, crochet, lace.
Va tiştan yanî... gune me ra me çêkir. These things I mean... in our time we made them.
Ema tentene çêkir, meselan daykên me qenewîcên wan ji me ra çêkir. We made lace, for example our mothers made their cross- stitch for us.
Daykên me j' me re... serî balgîyan tentene çêkir. Our mothers for us... made lace on the pillows.
Meselan heba berê. For example, there were in the past.
Bes naha kêm e, tiştên wargî. But now it's rare, things like that.
Spasiya te dikim. I thank you.
Ehlen we sehlen... û bi xêr hatin. Welcome... and you're welcome.
Saeta te xweş. Have a good time.
Belê temaşevanên hêja. Yes esteemed viewers.
Koma Raperîn, jê komên herî navdar... The Raperin group, one of the most famous groups...
Yên bacarê Efrînê ne. Of the city of Afrin.
Ev kom ji keç û xortên Basûtê yên jîhatî pêk tê. This group consists of the talented girls and boys of Basute.
Û naha mamoste Şadî Xidir bi me re ye. And now teacher Şadi Xidir is with us.
Wê ji me re behsa koma Raperîn bike. He will tell us about the Raperin group.
Merheba mamoste. Hello teacher.
Ahlan wa sahlan, ser çavan. Welcome, upon my eyes.
Çawa yî? How are you?
Baş im, tu çawa yî? I am good, how are you?
Baş im. Mamoste em dixwazin tu ji me re behsa koma Raperîn bikî. I am good. Teacher, we want you to tell us about the Raperin group.
Wê kengî hat çêkirin? When was it created?
Kesên destpêkê, kî bûn? Bi alîkariya kê...? The initial people, who were they? With whose help...?
Belê. Yes.
Destpêkê koma Raperîn me çêkir, dawiya sala 2004'an. In the beginning, we created the Raperin group, at the end of the year 2004.
Me dest pê kir. Min nav lê kir Koma Raperîn. We started it. I named it the Raperin Group.
Û endamên me, hem ji reqsê re, hem ji klaman re... And our members, both for dancing, and for songs...
Teqrîben gihîşte pêncî kesî. Reached approximately fifty people.
Û heta roja îro em berdewam in. And up to this day, we are continuing.
Belê mamoste. Ez dixwazim pirsekî din ji te bikim. Yes teacher. I want to ask you another question.
2004'an hatiye çêkirin. It was created in 2004.
Destpêkê navê Raperîn ji kû derê hat? Initially, where did the name Raperin come from?
Û ji ber çi ev nav, xelkê dixwestin we nasbikin? And why this name, did the people want to know you?
Raperîn di sala 2004'an da, di Qamişlo da... destpêkir ji îhtîfadayê. Raperin in the year 2004, in Qamishlo... started from the uprising.
Wexta raperîn destpêkir, di Qamişlo, hey ha Efrînê hat. When the uprising started, in Qamishlo, it came all the way to Afrin.
Me rabû, em go emê navê koma xwe bikin Koma Raperîn. We got up, we said we will name our group the Raperin Group.
Destpêkê em didu bûn. In the beginning, there were two of us.
Paşê em bûn çar. Then we became four.
Em bêjin navê wan... Xelîl Dildar, Mehmûd... yek ji Xezewiyê bû. Let's say their names... Xelil Dildar, Mahmud... one was from Xezewiye.
Xortek di nav me da bû, Mihemed me re bû... Çawîş wilo dibêjin. A young man was among us, Mihemed was with us... they call him Çawîş.
Hevalê me yê rehmetî... Xelîl Dildar wê rojê erdê... eh, hevalê min Xelîl kir. Our late friend... Xelil Dildar that day offered the floor... to my friend Xelil.
Go "Werin hûn jî derbas bin bo Koma Raperîn." He said, "Come, you too join the Raperin Group."
Xelîl destpêkê de dengbêj bû. Xelil initially was a singer.
Paşê amûrê orgê... em lê orgê xistin. Then the org instrument... we played the org.
Û min rabû, dest bi reqsê kir. Min reqs aniye ser dika. And I started dancing. I brought dancing to the stage.
Ev giştik di 2004'an da. All of this was in 2004.
Û me karê xwe berdewam kir heta 2009'an. And we continued our work until 2009.
2009'an me go emê klîbekê... emê kasetekê çêkin ji komê re. In 2009 we said we will make a clip... we will make a cassette for the group.
Me çêkir, me kaset çêkir. We made it, we made a cassette.
Di sala 2010 - 2011 me karê xwe sekinand. In the years 2010 - 2011 we stopped our work.
Heta 2018 - 2019. Until 2018 - 2019.
19 û şûn da, me karê xwe nû ve... me keç û xort li nav komê kirin. From 19 onwards, we renewed our work... we brought girls and boys into the group.
Me rû... ji nû va koma Raperîn çêkir. We started... we re-created the Raperin group.
Me cilên Kurdî çêkir... yên Basûtê. We made Kurdish clothes... the ones of Basute.
Endamên me giştî, heşt kes in. Our members in total, are eight people.
Ha, yanî naha tenê ferekî we li vir heye? Ah, so now you only have one branch here?
Na. No.
Di 2009'an de, me heşt klam çêkirin. In 2009, we made eight songs.
Koma Armanc... komek cihê hatibû, li Efrînê da. The Armanc group... a group had come to a place, in Afrin.
Ê yekê bû. Û wan destê xwe da pişt me. Yes, it was one. And they supported us.
Got em bi we re ne, em ê arî we bikin. They said we are with you, we will help you.
Ji kîjan gundî bûn ev koma? From which village was this group?
Koma Armanc, ya Efrînê ye. The Armanc group, it is of Afrin.
E ya bajarê Efrînê ye. Ah, it's of the city of Afrin.
E bajarê Efrînê, û ji gundan gişka tê da hene. Yes the city of Afrin, and they have members from all the villages in it.
Û koma naha ya Basûtê... ew jî ji gundan gîşka tê da ne? And the current group of Basute... does it also have members from all the villages?
Na, ew bes gundek bi tenê ye. No, that is just one village alone.
Û koma Newrozê jî, em bîr nekin. And let's not forget the Newroz group.
Ew jî... canibê e... bazdanê. Them too... from the side of... fleeing/dancing.
Wan jî... ere, xortê delal dan me... û keçên delal... They also... yes, gave us lovely boys... and lovely girls...
Û endamên me... ê komê... ew dengbêj... And our members... of the group... those singers...
Hesîb di cem me hebû... We had Hesib with us...
Mehmûd Hebo, Xelîl dengbêj bû. Rustem, Talib û Urgicî bes dengbêj bûn. Mahmud Hebo, Xelil was a singer. Rustem, Talib and Urgici were just singers.
Aruc û Alîn hebûn, Maria û Yara hebûn. Aruc and Alin were there, Maria and Yara were there.
Dixwazim ji te bipirsim, hetanî niha we çiqas klîp çêkiriye, çiqas kilam çêkirin? I want to ask you, until now how many clips have you made, how many songs have you made?
Em bêjin we çi, wekî ku li derve kar kirî, xeynî Efrînê? Let's say what have you done, like what have you worked on outside, besides Afrin?
Me di 2009'an kasêtek çêkir, me heşt kilam çêkirin. Wê hingê klîp me çênekirin. We made a cassette in 2009, we made eight songs. We didn't make clips back then.
Û di 2023'yan me klîpek li ser Cindirêsê çêkir. And in 2023 we made a clip about Jindires.
Dengbêjê me jî wê hingê stirayî, Aruc bû. Our singer who sang then was Aruc.
Û di 2025'an jî, dîsa me klîpek din çêkir li ser rewşa naha. And in 2025 as well, we made another clip about the current situation.
Ya xelkê Efrînê tê de, li ser wê rewşê me çêkir. Regarding the people of Afrin, we made it about that situation.
Û em karê xwe berdewam dikin heta ku em herin. And we will continue our work for as long as we can.
Niha koma, yanî wek em koma... koma Raperîn... Now the group, I mean as we see the group... Koma Raperin...
Me di gelek cihan dîtin di cejnan de, cejna Newrozê wekî em bibêjin. We have seen them in many places during holidays, the Newroz holiday for example.
Destpêkê, berî çend mehan hûn hazirtiya xwe dikin? Û hûn çi karî dikin? Firstly, how many months in advance do you prepare? And what work do you do?
Kî tê dibêje, ka hûn wekî karê bi hesaba vê bikin? Who comes and says, let's do work for this?
Belê, yanî meselen em bêjin, Koma Raperîn ev pirs ji meha yazdehan û diwazdehan şixul tê da, Yes, I mean for example let's say, Koma Raperin starts working on this issue from the 11th and 12th month,
Bes da ku tu karê xwe bikî heta meha sêyan. Just so you can get your work done by the third month.
Çend provayan dikin? Çawa cîhaz e? Yanî Koma Raperîn cîhaz e, çi dixwazin? How many rehearsals do we do? How ready are they? I mean Koma Raperin is ready, whatever they want.
Rengê folklorî, tiştek, gî da cîhaz in. Folkloric style, anything, they are all ready.
Ne ku ne amade ne. Yanî bes mûcered te xeber da, It's not that they are not ready. I mean, as soon as you inform us,
Çi faeliyat hebin, em mişareke dikin. Whatever activity there is, we participate.
Tu carî em kesî ji bîr nakin. Yek ji wan Resûl Xelîl, û yek ji wan Cuma Hesen. We never forget anyone. One of them is Resul Xelil, and one of them is Cuma Hesen.
Evana jî ku maddiyen û manewiyen bi me re bûn. These people were with us financially and morally.
Xortên me hene li Ewropa... ew alîkariya me dikin. We have youth in Europe... they help us.
Û em ji bîr nakin ku ev pir li kêleka me sekinîn. Resûl Xelîl, û Cuma Hesen. And we don't forget that these stood by our side a lot. Resul Xelil, and Cuma Hesen.
Meseleyên aliyê maddî, tu carî me jê ra xem nedixwar. We never worried about financial matters.
Me dikir stûyê wanda. Û ew bi karî radibûn. We would put it on their shoulders. And they would take care of the work.
Mamoste, navên çend hunermendan ji me re... wekî me zikr kirin, Teacher, the names of some artists you told us... as we mentioned them,
Hunermendên din di bîra te da hene? Ku me zêde nedîtibin û te ji bîr kiribin? Do you remember any other artists? That we haven't seen much and you might have forgotten?
Belê wele min ji bîr kirine, Birahîm Reşwanî ji Mamelê, Yes, by God I have forgotten them, Birahim Reshwani from Mamele,
Û Selwecan ji Kîmarê, ev jî dengbêjên me ne. And Selwecan from Kimar, these are also our singers.
Naha ez dixwazim pirsek dî ji te bikim, ji endamên Koma Raperîn kes li vir derê heye? Now I want to ask you another question, is there anyone from the members of Koma Raperin here?
Belê, Alîn li vir derê ye. Yes, Alin is here.
Alîn çî? Alin what?
Alîn Xidir. Alin Xidir.
Em dixwazin bangî wê jî bikin. We want to call her too.
Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome to do so.
Spasiya te dikim. Thank you.
Ser çava. My pleasure.
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Merheba. Hello.
Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome.
Destpêkê ez dixwazim te nas bikim? At first, I want to get to know you?
Navê min Alîn Xidir e, ji gundê Basûtê me, endamek ji endamên Koma Raperîn. My name is Alin Xidir, I am from the village of Basuta, a member of Koma Raperin.
Tu wek endamek di Koma Raperîn de, ez dixwazim bizanibim karê te çiye di komê de? As a member of Koma Raperin, I want to know what your work is in the group?
Di komê de ez dengbêj im, û beşek ji govenda me ye. In the group I am a singer, and a part of our dance team.
Ez dixwazim tu ji me re tiştekî bistirê. Ji karên komê yên ku we çêkiriye. I want you to sing something for us. From the group's works that you have done.
Ez dixwazim bavê min... ji me re lêbixe û ez ji we re tiştekî bibêjim. I want my father... to play for us and I will sing something for you.
Ha, yanî bavê te, hem mamosteyê te ye, hem bavê te ye? Ah, so your father is both your teacher and your father?
Ser çavan. Yes.
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Efrîn rengîn e, Afrin is colorful,
Dilêm rûvay e, My heart is flying,
Xemla dinê ye, It's the beauty of the world,
Ji nû ve ray e. It's risen anew.
Efrîn rengîn e, Afrin is colorful,
Dilêm rûvay e, My heart is flying,
Xemla dinê ye, It's the beauty of the world,
Ji nû ve ray e. It's risen anew.
Efrîn xweş welat, Afrin is a beautiful land,
Talibê dost û yaran. Seeking friends and beloveds.
Efrîn kofiya serî ye, Afrin is the headdress,
Xurî da ye. It has given pride.
Lê lê lê lê lê... Le le le le le...
Lo lo lo lo... Lo lo lo lo...
Lê lê lê lê lê... Le le le le le...
Lo lo lo lo... Lo lo lo lo...
Lê lê lê lê lê... Le le le le le...
Lo lo lo lo lawo... Lo lo lo lo lawo...
Gelek gelek xweş bû. Destê te sax bin mamoste, spasiya te dikim. Spas ji we re jî. It was very, very beautiful. Bless your hands teacher, I thank you. Thank you as well.
Ser çava. My pleasure.
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Belê temaşevanên hêja, niha em gihîştin dawiya xeleka bernameya xwe, bernameya Gundan û Welat. Yes dear viewers, now we have reached the end of our program's episode, the program of Villages and Country.
Bi hêvî me ku ev xelek we xweş dîtibe. I hope you enjoyed this episode.
Ez Rûliyan Hec Ehmed ji gundê Basûtê li gel we bûm. I, Ruliyan Hec Ehmed, was with you from the village of Basuta.
Wê rojên din, ji gundên din, û bi xelkên nû, ez ê li gel we bim. On other days, from other villages, and with new people, I will be with you.
Ger hûn dixwazin werin serdana Basûtê bikin, If you want to come and visit Basuta,
Dereng nemînin, zû werin, berî sêvên Basûtê xilas bibin. Don't be late, come early, before the apples of Basuta run out.
Her dem di xêr û xweşiyê de bimînin. Always stay in goodness and happiness.
Spasiya we dikim, û bi xatirê we. I thank you, and goodbye.
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