Ez keçim keça Kurda me, gulî l'kaserê lawa me. I am a girl, a Kurdish girl, a flower on the young men's heads.
Rîhan û rizû çavê me, lawiko ez bîrîvan im. Basil and provisions are our eyes, oh boy, I am a milker (shepherdess).
Ez keçim keça Kurda me, gulî l'kaserê lawa me. I am a girl, a Kurdish girl, a flower on the young men's heads.
Rîhan û rizû çavê me, lawiko ez bîrîvan im. Basil and provisions are our eyes, oh boy, I am a milker.
Delalê te xwîn şêrînî, dil wekîlê min guh bînî. Your beloved is sweet-blooded, the heart acts as my guardian, listen.
Ji xorta ka xwedê nabînî, bilyê (?) ez bîrîvan im. Among the young men, you don't see God [perhaps implying unmatched beauty], (?) I am a milker.
Delalê te xwîn şêrînî, dil wekîlê min guh bînî. Your beloved is sweet-blooded, the heart acts as my guardian, listen.
Ji xorta ka xwedê nabînî, bilyê (?) ez bîrîvan im. Among the young men, you don't see God, (?) I am a milker.
Belê temaşevanên hêja. Yes, dear viewers.
Îro jî em derbasî gundekî din bûn. Today, we have moved on to another village.
Kamêra me vê gundî nas bike. Our camera will explore this village.
Ev gund, vêra dibêjin Çetel Ziyaret. This village, they call it Çetel Ziyaret.
Gundê Çetel Ziyaretê jî, di navçeya Şêrawa da ye. The village of Çetel Ziyaret is in the Sherawa district.
Dema mera derbasî Efrînê dibê, destpêkê mera derbasî gundê Çetel Ziyaretê dibê. When one crosses into Afrin, one first enters the village of Çetel Ziyaret.
Ev gund di sînor da ye, navbera Efrînê û herêma Şehba da ye. This village is on the border, between Afrin and the Shahba region.
Îro jî em vê gundî nas bikin. Today, we will get to know this village.
Mamosta Ebdulmerhem, bi xêr hatî. Teacher Abdulmerhem, welcome.
Ahlen we sehlen, merheba. Welcome, hello.
Sax bî. Be healthy (Thank you).
Heval, destpêkê de gotinek ko min heye ez ê bibêjim. Friend, in the beginning, I have a saying I would like to say.
Dibê diyarî, diyarî, diyarî. It says, a gift, a gift, a gift [or referring to a highland/visibility].
Şev şevkî ye, bû şeveka, buha tarî. The night is illuminated, it became a night, a dark value [or dark night].
Şev şevkî ye, bû şeveka tarî. The night is illuminated, it became a dark night.
Hat tavek ji tava tûliyê, buharî. A ray came from the rays of the Tûli [specific star or location], spring-like.
Işqê ket, bi evra ket, birûsk lêxist, stûnê kon hatin xwarê. Love struck, it struck the clouds, lightning struck, the tent poles came down.
Pê vê ra, îşiqek derket, hat axa weleat rûnahî. With that, a light emerged, the soil of the homeland became bright.
Wey Xwedê we binbarek be, li gundê Ziyaretê hezar carî. Oh may God bless you, in the village of Ziyaret a thousand times.
Ay spas bo te jî, gotinek xweş. Gelek spas bo te jî. Oh thank you too, a lovely saying. Many thanks to you too.
Ser çava. You're welcome (Upon my eyes).
Yanî em jî kefxweş bûn, îro em derbasî gundê we bûn, gundê Çetel Ziyaretê. I mean, we are also happy that today we passed into your village, the village of Çetel Ziyaret.
Bi rastî jî, emê demek zû de bi te ra... lê te xwest rojekî em werin. Truly, we [planned] to be with you sooner... you wanted us to come one day.
Ahlen we sehlen. Welcome.
Îro jî em hatin, me mele jî derdora me dît, em jî spasiya milet dikin, û spasiya te jî dikin. Today we came, we saw the people around us, we thank the people, and we thank you too.
Me got emê hinekî dîroka gundê we, jê te nas bikin. We said we would learn a bit of your village's history from you.
Destpêkê navê gundê we ji ku hatiye? To start, where did the name of your village come from?
Destpêkê de, heval, ez spasiya we dikim bi vê hatinê. In the beginning, friend, I thank you for this visit.
Û em pir kêfxweş in, û serbilind in, û bi xêr hatin ser serê û ser çava. And we are very happy, and proud, and welcome, upon our heads and eyes.
Sax bî. Be healthy.
Gundê me, navê xwe, Çetel Zaretê. Our village, its name is Çetel Ziyaret (Fork/Double Shrine).
Berê, gund, navê gund, berî ke Çetel Zaretê, vêra digotin Zareta Şêx Yûsif. Before, the village, the village name, before it was Çetel Ziyaret, they called it The Shrine of Sheikh Yusuf.
Lê wextê ke Osmanlî hata vî welatî, navê gunda gish qulb kirine Tirkî. But when the Ottomans came to this land, they flipped all the village names to Turkish.
Û navê Çetel Zaretê jî, zaret jî kirine Çetel Zaretê. And the name Çetel Ziyaret, they made the shrine into Çetel Ziyaret.
Ji ber ku du zaret tê da hebûn, du qube li hember hev bûn, Çetel Zaretê. Because there were two shrines in it, two domes opposite each other, [thus] Çetel (Fork/Double) Ziyaret.
Û rind zanin jî, pir gundê Efrîn heta niho navê xwe bi Tirkî ne. And they know well, many Afrin villages still have their names in Turkish to this day.
Erê dema Osmaniyan derbasî vir bûye, dibê demê de hemî gundê me kirin Tirkî. Yes, when the Ottomans passed through here, it is said at that time they made all our villages Turkish.
Piştî wê ra jî ma Baas hat û kirin Erebî. Exactly.
Piştî wê ra jî ma Baas hat û kirin Erebî. After that the Ba'ath [Party] came and made them Arabic.
Wan jî kir Erebî, temam. They also made them Arabic, exactly.
Lê ew gelek gund jî man e ser... wek xwam man yanê. But many villages remained on... remained raw/original [retained original names].
Erê. Yes.
Ee, emê derbasî ciyê Ziyaretê jî bibin, te behsa Ziyaretê kir. Uh, we will move on to the Shrine place too, since you mentioned the Shrine.
Hûn ji kîjan eşîrê ne? Which tribe are you from?
Heval, ke gundê me, berî gund... dîroka gund pir kevn e. Friend, our village, before the village... the history of the village is very old.
Gundê me gundekî ji Çiyayê Lêlûn e. Our village is a village of Mount Lelun.
Lê noka, halê hazir, ser robarî va tê hesêb. But now, in the present state, it counts as being on the river [valley].
Berî niha bi sê sed sal... Three hundred years ago...
Kalê me hata vî gundî, berî ke wera vî gundî, vêra digotin Kalwelî. Our grandfather came to this village, before coming to this village, they called him Kalwelî (Grandfather Wali).
Em têne naskirin, dîroka miletê gundê niha, bi dîroka wî merî ve girêdayî ye. We are known... the history of the village people now is tied to the history of that man.
Navê xwe Kalwelî bû, ji eşîra Brahîm Paşayê Millî bû. His name was Kalwelî, he was from the Ibrahim Pasha Milli tribe.
Dema tu dibêjî... Çetel Ziyaretê dibêjin robarî ne, ji dûr de wey tûnî xuyakirin? When you say... they say Çetel Ziyaret is [of the] river, did it appear like that from afar?
Dûr da, em ne robarî ne, dûr da em ser çiyayê Lêlûn dane. From afar, we are not river people, from afar we are on Mount Lelun.
Lê bes wext... yanê ke kalkî me hata vir, û şûnda da, em ser robarî va hatne hesêb. But only when... I mean when our grandfather came here, and afterwards, we were counted as being on the river.
Xwe wîn ji eşîra Millî ne? So you are from the Milli tribe?
Em eşîra Millî ne, eşîra Brahîm Paşayê Millî. We are the Milli tribe, the Ibrahim Pasha Milli tribe.
Niha wek gundê we çend malbeta tê naskirin? Now, regarding your village, how many families are known [to live here]?
Ho, çend malbata... Noka malê Bekir tê naskirin. Yes, how many families... Now the House of Bekir is known.
Eş malê Bekir, tê naskirin Malê Hemê. From the House of Bekir, the House of Hemê is known.
Malê Mûsê. The House of Mûsê (Moses).
Malê Ûsakê, em malê Îbiş, Îbiş bi xwe bavê Ûsakê bû. The House of Usakê, we are the House of Ibish, Ibish himself was the father of Usakê.
Lê pismamê me têne naskirin Malê Ûsakê, em têne naskirin Malê Îbiş, û Malê Hemmûtê. But our cousins are known as the House of Usakê, we are known as the House of Ibish, and the House of Hemmûtê.
Hev ê Bekir. These are the [House] of Bekir.
Ê Derwêş têne naskirin... The [House] of Dervish are known [as]...
Malê Îsikê, Malê Kose, Malê Telûbê, Malê Hilo, Malê Derwêş. The House of Isik, House of Kose, House of Telub, House of Hilo, House of Dervish.
Û wekî me gotî, Malê Eyûb, û Malê Elî Bêc. And as we said, the House of Ayub, and the House of Ali Beg.
Ê Welî têne naskirin noka, bi navê Malê Hemadî û Malê Eşê. The [House] of Wali are known now by the name House of Hemadi and House of Ashe.
Naha, di nav gundê we da, berê oda hebûn? Now, inside your village, were there guest rooms (Oda) in the past?
Mîvan dihatin cem we? Did guests come to you?
Oda hebû, cem rehmetî Cim'ayê Hemmûtê. There was a guest room, at the late Cim'ayê Hemmûtê's place.
Ew dê xwe mezin bû, muxtarê gund bû. He was an elder/great man, he was the Mukhtar of the village.
Û vî herêmê giştîkî de, navdayî bû, heta gund hata naskirin pir ciyan digotin Zareta Cim'ayê Hemmûtê. And in this whole region, he was famous, to the point that the village became known in many places as "The Shrine of Cim'ayê Hemmûtê".
Hode xwe bi şev û roj vekirî bû ji mîvana ra. His room was open night and day for guests.
Pir merikî camêr bû, pir merikî ji yanî... teket mişkilê xelkê ji teketê û çareser dikirin, û zirar ji kîs xwe dikir. He was a very generous man, a very... I mean he would get involved in people's problems and solve them, and take the loss from his own pocket.
Heta noka, yanî kîfa wî cîhê wî her heye. Until now, I mean, his presence, his place is still there.
Yanî niha ew oda mezin, hîn maye? So now, that big guest room, does it still remain?
Oda mezin, noka lawê wî rûniştiye. The big room, now his son sits [resides] there.
Têne naskirin pir ciyan, Zareta Cim'ayê Hemmûtê. It is known in many places as the Shrine of Cim'ayê Hemmûtê.
Nabêjin Zareta Çetel Zaretê, za Şêx Yûsif ke, dibêjin Zareta Cim'ayê Hemmûtê. They don't say the Shrine of Çetel Ziyaret, or Sheikh Yusuf anymore, they say the Shrine of Cim'ayê Hemmûtê.
Û li gundê we ji, xwanek ji hebû? And in your village, was there also a Khan (inn/large house)?
Xwane naha, halê hazir, dora 300 xwane heye. Houses now, at present, there are around 300 houses.
Gundekî mezin e? It's a big village?
Gundekî mezin e. It is a big village.
Bes min tiştek ji bîr kir têra bibêjim. But I forgot to tell you one thing.
Kalwelî ke ji serê kaniyê derket, salê 1677. When Kalwelî left the spring head [Ras al-Ayn area?], in the year 1677.
Ke gîşta Çetel Zaretê, salê 1710. When he reached Çetel Ziyaret, it was the year 1710.
Yanî çel salî birêva dirêj kiriye. Meaning, he extended the journey for forty years.
Ee naha em bêjin, wek gundê we... çend malbeta tê naskirin? Uh, now let's say, like your village... how many families are known?
Ho, çend mal... Noka malê Bekir tê naskirin. Yes, how many... Now the House of Bekir is known.
Ê ji malê Bekir, tê naskirin Malê Hemê. Those from the House of Bekir, the House of Hemê is known.
Malê Mûsê. The House of Mûsê.
Malê Ûsakê, em Malê Îbiş, Îbiş bi xwe bavê Ûsakê bû. The House of Usakê, we are the House of Ibish, Ibish himself was the father of Usakê.
Lê pismamê me têne naskirin Malê Ûsakê, em têne naskirin Malê Îbiş, û Malê Hemmûtê. But our cousins are known as the House of Usakê, we are known as the House of Ibish, and the House of Hemmûtê.
Ev, ê Bekir. These are the [ones] of Bekir.
Ê Derwêş têne naskirin... The [ones] of Dervish are known...
Malê Îsikê, Malê Kose, Malê Telûbê, Malê Hilo, Malê Derwêş. House of Isik, House of Kose, House of Telub, House of Hilo, House of Dervish.
Wekî me gotî Malê Eyûb, û Malê Elî Bêc. As we said, House of Ayub, and House of Ali Beg.
Ê Welî têne naskirin noka, bi navê Malê Hemadî û Malê Eşê. The [ones] of Wali are known now, by the name House of Hemadi and House of Ashe.
Na, bipirsin, kanî, av li ba we heye? No, let's ask, springs, is there water with you?
Na wele tinne, na wele tinne. Li vî gundî avê xwe pir zeîf e. No, by God, none, no by God, none. In this village, its water is very weak/scarce.
Tinne? None?
Tinne, na. None, no.
Na, em destpêka şoreşê da, gelek êrîş hatin ser gundê we. No, [I mean] at the beginning of the revolution, many attacks came upon your village.
Hatin, çima? They came, indeed (what do you think?).
Yanî ez kêlim te ra bêjim heval, çi qas ke mecmûat museleh, li Sûriyê da hene, gikat ne gundê me û derketin. I mean, I can tell you briefly friend, as many armed groups as there are in Syria, they all entered our village and left.
Daîş ji kete gund. ISIS also entered the village.
Û ket, çi qas hene, van ê navin ke win televizyonan da dibîsinî, gikat ne gund. And entered, however many there are, those names you hear on television, they all entered the village.
Tu bi xêr hatî. Em ji dawiya... Em ji dawiyê derbas bûn. Well, some came by [force/raids], some came by driving out...
Tu bi xêr hatî. Em ji dawiya... Em ji dawiyê derbas bûn. Welcome. We passed the end... We have passed the end.
Em li gundê derbasî gund bûn, niha em ê bahsa ziyaretekê, bahsa vî cihê olî bikin. Em ê derbasî nava gund jî bibin. We have entered the village, now we will talk about a shrine, talk about this religious place. We will also enter inside the village.
Em ê derbasî nava xelkê jî bibin. Saeta we xweş, bi xêr hatin, saeta we hezar carî xweş. We will also go among the people. Have a good time, welcome, may your time be pleasant a thousand times over.
Keremkin. Please, come in.
Gundê Çetel Ziyaretê girêdayî navçeya Şêrawa ya kantona Efrînê, 17 kîlometreyan li rojhilatê bajarokê Basûtê... The village of Chetel Ziyarete belongs to the Sherawa district of the Afrin canton, 17 kilometers east of the town of Basute...
...u 25 kîlometreyan li bakur û rojhilatê bajarê Efrînê dikeve. ...and is located 25 kilometers northeast of the city of Afrin.
Navê gund ji peyva pêk tê; Çetel û Ziyaret. Ew tê wateya du ziyaretgeh. The name of the village consists of words; Chetel (Fork/Intersection) and Ziyaret (Shrine). It means two shrines.
Jiber ku du ziyaretgeh li nava gund hebûn. Because there were two shrines inside the village.
Yek bi navê Şêx Yûsif û ya din jî bi navê Şêx Mihemed e. One is named Sheikh Yusuf and the other is named Sheikh Mohammed.
Lê di sala 2013an de çeteyên DAIŞê dema derbasî gund bûn, her du ziyaretgeh teqandin. But in the year 2013, when ISIS gangs entered the village, they blew up both shrines.
Kalwelî yekemîn kes li gund niştecî bû. Ew bixwe ji eşîra Milî bû. Kalweli was the first person to settle in the village. He himself was from the Mili tribe.
Tê gotin ku du kurên wî, yek li gundê Merebê û yê din jî li Ermenazê, yek girêdayî parêzgeha Idlibê niştecî bûn. It is said that his two sons settled, one in the village of Mereb and the other in Ermenaz, one belonging to the Idlib governorate.
Û ta niha bi navê Malbata Hembik û Tinarî li Merenazê û Malbata Seyd jî li Ermenazê têne naskirin. And until now, they are known as the Hembik and Tinari family in Merenaz, and the Seyd family in Ermenaz.
Lê çar kurên Kalwelî yên din, Birîm li gundê Aqîbê niştecî bû. Bekir, Welî, Derwêş li gundê Çetel Ziyaretê niştecî bûn û gund şên û ava kirin. But the other four sons of Kalweli; Birim settled in the village of Aqibe. Bekir, Weli, and Derwesh settled in the village of Chetel Ziyarete and populated and built the village.
Nedî limin lo, nedî limin lo, nedî limin lo, nedî limin lo, nedî limin lo, nedî limin lo... Woe is me, woe is me, woe is me, woe is me, woe is me, woe is me...
Hey dirêy minê bi kula, kula girtî can e, ez dizekim (?) ji taqê, kula û derdan e. Oh, my heart is full of sores, sores have seized my soul, I am ??? from the window, of sores and griefs.
Em dikin ser kelam û şûşê... We are putting on words/wounds and glass...
Kela girgîn ser haseke, çiqas pêryan e. The Girgin citadel on Hasakah, how many fairies [are there].
Navê yekê Şemsîlban e, navê yekê Hêvîrban e, navê yekê Stirban e. The name of one is Shemsilban, the name of one is Hevirban, the name of one is Stirban.
Salê çakê tê xwedê şol na bexçê sînemê, li ber hewzê gulan e. [Singing about wandering in the garden of the chest/heart, by the pool of roses].
Yekê çûne xatûna bajarê Cizîra Botan e, wî li mîrê meşhûr Memê Alan e. One has gone to the lady of the city of Cizira Botan, oh to the famous prince Memê Alan.
Bikin misafire û mêvan e, û gudar mi bikin, ya weşiya weş... [music fades] Make them guests and visitors, and listen to me, oh ???... [music fades]
Oy oy de wêl wêl, oy oy de wêl... De wêl wêl wêl, tim û tim wêlî wêlî wêl... Oh, oh, woe, woe, oh, oh, woe... Woe, woe, woe, always and forever woe, woe, woe...
Qewet be jaro! Strength to you, neighbor!
Merheba. Hello.
Merheba dayê. Hello, mother.
Merheba. Hello.
Dayê em destpêkê te nas bikin? Mother, may we know you first?
Ehlen wa sehlen, ne dê ka nasim (?). Welcome, [indistinct].
Ser çavê min dayê. You are welcome [Upon my eyes], mother.
Çavê te xweş bin, ser serî me, ser çavê me. May your eyes be happy, upon our heads, upon our eyes [you are welcome].
Sax bî. Be healthy.
Karê xwe em dikin, em dendika dikişînin, kundir in, qawin in, zebeş in. We are doing our work, we are harvesting seeds, pumpkins, melons, watermelons.
Yanî win hemû karî dikin? Meaning you do all the work?
Hemû karî em dikin. Berê em qîçik bûn, em katin malê mezin. We do all the work. Before we were small/young, we entered the big house [got married/grew up].
Me çêl hewandibûn, me pez hewandibûn, me pale diçinî, me carcar dikuta... We sheltered cows, we sheltered sheep, we harvested crops, we beat the threshing floor...
Aferim, zehmetiyên mezin me dikir. Bravo, we used to do great difficulties [hard labor].
Hef karî me bûn. This was our work.
Dayê, em bibêjin gava ku te piştî te, hîn jî kar dikin? Mother, let's say when you [look] back, do they still work?
Erê welle. Yes, by God.
Dayê, ew berê we hemû kar dikir. Mother, back then you did all the work.
Hemû karî me dikir welle yarebim. We did all the work, by God, oh Lord.
We diçû av dianî? Did you go to fetch water?
Av me bi seriyan dianî, me bi qadûsa dikişan. We brought water on our heads, we drew it with buckets.
Avê baranê lê dikir, diket bîra, av tune bûn. Rainwater would fall, it went into the well, there was no [running] water.
Bîra gundî li kuderê bû? Where was the village well?
Bîra mal li ser rêkê ne, hewşê da hene. The house wells are on the road, they are in the courtyard.
Yanî kanî cem we tune ne? Meaning you don't have a spring near you?
Kanî tune ne, no. Tune ne kaniya cem me. There are no springs, no. There is no spring near us.
Avê vî derê çîçikekî kêm bûn. The water here was a little scarce.
Dayê, na, em bêjin... Mother, no, let's say...
Jiber dema win hemû karî dikin? Since back then you did all the work?
Hemû karî me dikir welle yarebim. Malê mezin bû, em qîçik bûn, em bi qîçik bûn. We did all the work, by God, oh Lord. The family was big, we were small/young, we were with the little ones.
Em diçûn pala, em diçûn carcara, em diçûn karê giştkî wane. We went to harvest, we went to threshing, we went to all kinds of work like that.
Hew bû. That was it.
Berê kerebe hebû di gundî wada? Elektrîk tune bû? Was there electricity in your village back then? There was no electricity?
Kerebe tune bû, no. Çira bûn. Çirê xazyaxê bûn, me çira dişûştin, me xazyax dikirê, me çira li ser xwê dixist. Tune. There was no electricity, no. There were lamps. Kerosene lamps, we washed the lamps, we put kerosene in them, we lit the lamps for ourselves. None [no electricity].
Yanî em bêjin, saet çenda win sibe radibûn? Meaning let's say, what time did you wake up in the morning?
Saet şeşan, pêncan, me xew nedikir. Kar pir bû, em şifaqê radibûn. Six o'clock, five o'clock, we didn't sleep. There was a lot of work, we woke up at dawn.
Paşî ya bû? Was it later [that you rested]?
Paş he bû, xelk li cem me dişoxilî, nanê xelkê da çêdikir, me dida nan, em rûnediniştin. Saet pêncan em radibûn. Later existed, people worked with us, [we] made bread for the people, we gave bread, we didn't sit down. At five o'clock we woke up.
Cara me xewê sibê nekiribû. We never slept in the morning.
Bes, haya niha win karê xwe dikin, karê gunda? But, up until now you do your work, the village work?
Ewa. Yes.
Na, em binêrin hemû jin in yên vê karî dikin? No, let's look, is it all women who do this work?
Ewa, taybet jin vê karî dikin. Yes, specifically women do this work.
Jin dikin, mêr nakin? Women do it, men don't?
No. Ev karaye jinaye. No. This is women's work.
Mesela nîn bike, yê jinaye. Şîva bike, yê jinaye. Em diçûn palê vêra, em kulfetê diçin. For example making lunch, it's women's [work]. Making dinner, it's women's. We went to harvest there, we women go.
Mêr li mal rûdiniştin. Men sat at home.
Em diçûn xora, diçûn. Hev şixura bar dikirin, me vêra bar dikirin. We went for food/sustenance, we went. These jobs involved carrying loads, we carried loads there.
Me pale vêra diçinî, me kargê vêra dikir wane. We harvested crops there, we did the work there like that.
Dayê, no, tiştekî ji te pirsim. Mother, no, let me ask you something.
Ew berê dibêjin, em a... daku hemû bi hevra dibûn alîkar. Dibêjin arê hevdû dikirin. They say in the past, we... that everyone helped each other. They say they did 'Are' (collective help) for each other.
Erê, alîkar, gulo wane, her sê çar mal, dibûn hevalê hevdû, me bi hevdura karê xwe dikir. Yes, help, my flower [dear], every three or four households, became friends with each other, we did our work together with each other.
Cîran bûn, heval bûn, meriv bûn, me go hevdû qum dikir (?), me vêra dikir. Me bi hevdura harê dikir. We were neighbors, friends, relatives, we gathered together (?), we did it there. We helped each other.
Ew berê xweş bû, lê niha xweş e? Was the past better, or is now better?
Welle berê xweş bû. By God, the past was better.
Ewa wejmar we xweşik bûn, hewa dabarê. That counting of yours was beautiful, [indistinct].
Berê, berê pir xweş bû. Gi wekî xaka bûn, tişt tune bû, qeher tune bû, şûş tune bûn. The past, the past was very good. Everything was like earth [simple], there was nothing, no sadness, no washing/glass(?).
Dawet tune bûn, tişt tune bûn, berê pir xweş bû. There were no [fancy] weddings, there were no things, the past was very good.
Berê biçûna mala hevdû, rûniştana heta nîvî şevê, tişt tune bû. In the past they would go to each other's houses, sit until midnight, there was nothing [to worry about].
Yanî zikreşî, tişt tune bû, pir rind bû berê. Meaning jealousy, there was nothing, the past was very good.
Nokan ne waha ye? Is it not like that now?
Ti daxwazê ji min hene, milet veger wekî berê. Do you have a request from me, [that] the people return like the past.
Bi xwesteka wekî berê, bes nav tilyê. With a wish like the past, but the name... [interrupted].
Nav tilyê. Ewa. [Indistinct phrase, possibly idiom]. Yes.
Em biçin cem ev hinek din jî, silavê bidin. Let's go to these others too, give greetings.
E, ehlen wa sehlen. Yes, welcome.
Merhaba şitara jî. Hello to the star [young woman] too.
Ahlen, ehlen wa sehlen. Welcome, welcome.
Tu çi karî dikî? What work are you doing?
Welle dendikê kuderê kume erdê ye. Well, the pumpkin seeds are on the ground.
Arê welle. Axê... Yes, by God. Soil... [indistinct].
Tu ji vî gundî yî, ziaretê? Are you from this village, Ziyaret?
Ez ji gundê Ziaretê me, erê. I am from the village of Ziyaret, yes.
Xwedanê mi ji vir in, eb (?) xo ji vir im. My owners [family] are from here, I myself am from here.
Ez naha zikunderê dendikê kundirê glo kin, am dikinê axê ye, axê şil derdixim. I am now making round pumpkin seeds, we put them in the soil, I take out the wet soil.
Dikime nav, du dehî hişk, sarda (?) ew dikim. I put it inside, [wait] two ten [days?] dry, [then] I do that.
Heta bizerre, derê. Until it turns yellow, outside.
Cem hevala we jî... With your friend too...
Kane wîn karê xwe sekin? Let's see, do you do your work [stop/check]?
Qewet be ji wa ra. Strength to you all.
Saeta we xweş, saeta we baş. May your time be pleasant, may your time be good.
Qewet be ji wa ra jî. Strength to you too.
Ehlen wa sehlen. Ahlen zelûh (?) welle. Welcome. Welcome [indistinct name/term], by God.
Ser çava. You are welcome.
Welle hej me hîd. By God [indistinct].
Ehlen wa sehlen Fatma, ma ji vî gundî ziaretê va? Welcome Fatma, are you from this Ziyaret village?
Na na, wan dendika diçînin, win jî dît diçînin? No no, they harvest those seeds, did you see them harvest too?
Em jî dendika diçînin, kundirê mêst in, bamiya ne, berberû ne. We also harvest seeds, they are 'yogurt pumpkins', they are okra, they are sunflowers.
Em gi dikin, erdê diçînin, şta (?). We do it all, we plant in the ground, [indistinct].
Ev çiye? What is this?
Hawa kundirê mêst in. Those are 'yogurt pumpkins' (squash).
Kundirê mêst in? 'Yogurt pumpkins'?
Hev? These?
Hawa bamiya ne. Those are okra.
Ev jî dendikê berberû ne. And these are sunflower seeds.
Em dikin erdê diçînin. We put them in the ground and plant them.
Yanî, naha em dileyzin, erd kîlo wîn hemû tişta diçînin? Meaning, now we are playing [working], how many kilos of ground do you plant with everything?
Arê, hemû tişta diçînin, xwarina me, paşê em jê xora çêdikin. Yes, we plant everything, our food, later we make food from it for ourselves.
Eyîb (?) mekin, yanî em dikin bacanê sor jî. Don't consider it shame [indistinct expression], meaning we also do tomatoes.
Bacanê beş jî. Eggplants too.
Bacanê beş jî em diçînin, dikin, dimsim sîrê xwe jê dikin, hişk dikin, maneta xwe gi jê tînin. We also plant eggplants, we make it, we make our garlic paste/syrup from it, we dry it, we get all our supplies from it.
No, em bêjin, divê demê de, naha buhar e, divê demê de win diçînin? No, let's say, in this time, now it is spring, in this time you harvest/plant?
Lê, badî nîsanê, awalî nîsanê, reşê şwazde xak, dest bi sêfiyê dikin, da radike gi diçîne, yanî, hev wextê xwe ye, dendika. But, after April, early April, the 16th [of the month] soil, we start the summer crops, ??? all plant, meaning, this is its time, the seeds.
E biçînin. To plant.
Badî vê, hewa kê jê bacana ye biçînin. Bacanê sor em dibînin, yanî, diçînin. After this, those who have tomatoes plant them. Tomatoes we see, meaning, they plant.
Ew dikişînin meha da? Do they harvest in the months [later]?
Ew jî vê mehê talî, vê mehê biçînin. Those too at the end of this month, they plant this month.
Bacanê sor, taliyê mehê. Tomatoes, at the end of the month.
E, em diçînin yanî. Yes, we plant, meaning.
Na em dimah çara dane, yanî? So we are in the fourth month given, meaning?
Awalî nîsanê ye, yekî nîsanê ye, yanî, am dest pê dikin yanî. It is early April, first of April, meaning, we start, meaning.
De. Em biçin cem evana wajî? Okay. Shall we go to those over there too?
Spas xweş. Thanks [you are] welcome.
Saet xweş. Have a good time.
Merhaba ji wara jî. Hello to you too.
Ehlen wa sehlen. Welcome.
Win çi diçînin? What are you planting?
Welle em jî bamiye diçînin. Well, we are also planting okra.
Zebeş in. Watermelons.
Bamî ne. Okra.
E... Uh...
Hev e. That's it.
Sol sol wext, me nîsanê em diçînin karê me ye. Every year at this time, in April we plant, it is our work.
Tişta em sîrê û av dikin, me çandine, ew şivî kemûne (?) û şivî reşreşko (?). Things we put garlic and water, we planted, that ??? cumin (?) and ??? black seed (?).
Daxê koro ye. [Indistinct] work.
Tiştê gunda ye, ka bişuxulin ho. It is village stuff, let them work, yeah.
Erê. Yes.
Dayîka we jî ev karan dikirin? Did your mother also do these jobs?
E, dayîka me jî hev karan dikirin. Yes, our mother also did these jobs.
Em jî ji wan elimîn. We also learned from them.
Erê. Yes.
Tu dengbêjî, rast? You are a singer (dengbêj), right?
Dayîka meş me bê te rah (?) dibûn, bitabhen (?), bes em nehan e awin yanî. Our mother... [indistinct]... naturally, but we are now like this, meaning.
Ên ew rehmîna berê pir bûn? Was that mercy of the past plenty?
Berê pir bûn erê. In the past it was plenty, yes.
No, na aw wekî berê ye. No, no it is [not] like the past.
Meqûl e. It is reasonable/acceptable.
Ta dît, ev traktora jî dajo. You saw, this one drives the tractor too.
Hews jî dajo he? She drives that too, huh?
Dajo, dajo. She drives, she drives.
He? Huh?
Erê, erê. Yes, yes.
Meysa. What is her name?
Meysa. Meysa.
Em ê herin cem Meysa jî. We will go to Meysa too.
De qewet be ji wara, saeta we xweş. Okay strength to you, have a good time.
Tractor sound. Tractor sound.
Merhaba. Hello.
Qewet be ştara. Strength to you, star [young lady].
Çawayî? How are you?
Elhemdulillah, em çan in, baş in? Praise be to God, we are okay, are [you] good?
Spas. Thanks.
Ez cara yekemîn dibînim jinek traktora dajo, cû dajo. Biji ştara. This is the first time I see a woman driving a tractor, driving like this. Long live, star.
Xwedê ji te razî be. May God be pleased with you.
Spas. Thanks.
Na, ev di gundî wada tu tenê cû dajo? Now, in your village are you the only one driving like this?
Erê welle, kêm yanî. Ez tenê dajom, erê. Yes, by God, few meaning. I alone drive, yes.
Bes dayîka te jî dikir, berê? But did your mother do it too, in the past?
Dayîka min na. Bes yanî jinê cem me pir kar dikin, bes min ev kara, yanî, ji bavkê xwe ra kir. My mother, no. But meaning women with us do a lot of work, but I did this work, meaning, for my father.
Ez çûçik bûm yanî, bavkê min ez ber me da elimand. I was small/young meaning, my father taught me in front of us.
Ez vêra diçûm nava erda, erdê me pir bûn, ew bûn. I went with him into the fields, our fields were many, they were.
E yanî, ez dê elimîm. Uh meaning, I learned.
Na, birê te tune bûn? Birê te jî cûd nedikir? Cûd najo tiştek? Now, did you not have brothers? Did your brother not do it like this? Doesn't drive anything?
Dikirin, bes e pir ser bavkê min bû, ewa diçû... They did, but it was mostly on my father, he went...
Tu şuxul îş hebû der... yanî pir ez çûk da bavê xwa ra bûm. Whatever work or job there was outside... I mean, I was with my father since I was very little.
Yanî ez wekî xortekî bûm cem bavê xwa. I mean, I was like a young man [son] to my father.
Tu çend sal e traktorê diajo? Tu ji kîngê da diajo? How many years have you been driving the tractor? Since when have you been driving?
Ez emrê min deh sal bû min destpêkir, yanî ji 'elimîm... yanî bû heft-heşt sal ez dikim. I started when I was ten years old, meaning since I learned... it has been seven or eight years that I've been doing it.
Bi tenê diajo? Do you drive alone?
Ê tenê... ê xwa diajom lê têxe dere cîran a, ê merûvê wa, mezinê wa jî diajom. Yes alone... I drive our own, but sometimes [I drive] for the neighbors, for their relatives, I drive for their elders too.
Ê herkesî yanî, ê xwa jî dikim, kes tîne ber min dikim, ez dikim yanî. So for everyone, meaning I do our own, and if anyone brings it to me, I do it.
Tu belaş dikî yan bi pere kar dikî? Do you do it for free or do you work for money?
Na, traktorê bavo be ez belaş dikim, traktorê min be ez ê pere bikim. No, if it's dad's tractor I do it for free, if it's my tractor I will charge money.
Ê heqê mazotê, heqê destê te? What about the cost of diesel, the cost of your labor?
Erê heqê mazotê, têxe qisûrê avê, zanî mazot yanî çakî, ewa... zor e. Yes, the cost of diesel, sometimes there's a water shortage, you know diesel is... well... it's hard.
Erê wele. Yes, indeed.
Ê li ser te ne zehmet e tu na ajo? Is it not difficult for you to drive?
Na wele, bil'eks yanî meraqa min pir li ser e. Yanî mera... mirov rûdinê, mera diecize, ew dibe, deqîqe... No, by God, on the contrary, I have a great passion for it. Meaning... when one sits, one gets bored, things happen, the minutes...
Dem derbas tê nav 'erd, dar û... yanî çakî xulqê mirov fereh dibe, ew dibe. Time passes out in the land, the trees and... meaning one's mood really lightens up, things like that.
Mirov fereh dibe, dema tu tê nav... tu navê zeviya da kar dikî, dema tu dibînî çawa... daêşî, daêşî hatin zevî ter û teze kar dikin, hinekî... One lightens up, when you come into... you work inside the fields, when you see how... the threshing, the threshing comes, the field is fresh and new while working, a little...
Bêhna mirov fereh dike. It opens up one's breath [makes one relax].
Erê wele, bêhna me fereh dibe, û em yanî ji kar dikin û dixwin. Yes, indeed, we relax, and we mean, we work and we eat [from it].
Erê wele. Yes, indeed.
Ka tu jî min bi'elimînî? Will you teach me too?
Ser çava, burom. With pleasure, let's go.
Werê? Really?
Zehmet e? Is it hard?
Na, zehmet nîne. Tu li kêleka min rûne, carekê ez şaş herim, dibe? No, it's not hard. Sit next to me, in case I go wrong once, okay?
Dibe. Okay.
Fe de. Come on then.
Ez kuderê rûnim? Where should I sit?
Vê derê rûne. Sit here.
Fe. Come on.
Belê, niha jî em li... Yes, now we are at...
Traktorê niştine. We are sitting on the tractor.
De ka em bibînin Meysa çawa fêr bû, çawa 'elimî, ka em begî em jî hinekî jî bi'elimin. Let's see how Meysa learned, how she was taught, let's see if we can learn a little bit too.
Min zevî xera nekir ne? I didn't ruin the field, did I?
Erê. Yes.
Çawa ajotina min? How is my driving?
Haho. So-so.
Haho? So-so?
Haho, tiştekî wabe ne. So-so, it's not much.
Belê. Yes.
Em hinekî jî fêr bûn yanî, em sipasiya xuşka Meysa dikin. We learned a little bit, we thank sister Meysa.
Em ketine nava meha çarê da jî, bihar e. Baran jî xweş dibare. We have entered the fourth month too, it is spring. The rain is falling nicely too.
Sîzde malbat li gund hene. Malbata Koso, Îsî, Ûsakê, 'Eşê, Welî, Hemoto, Hemê Bekê, Derwêş, Mûsê, Hilo, û malbata Eyûb ku bi eslê xwa jî gundî binenin û ji 'eşîra Rûbarana. There are thirteen families in the village. The families of Koso, Isi, Usake, Ashe, Weli, Hemoto, Heme Beke, Darwesh, Muse, Hilo, and the Eyyub family who are originally the founders of the village and are from the Rubaran tribe.
Her wiha malbateke Ereb jî bi navê 'Elî Beg ji goşê eşîra 'Ecêlî heye. Also, there is an Arab family named Ali Beg from the Ujayli tribe.
Ku berî heştê salî hatine û li gund niştecî bûne. Who came eighty years ago and settled in the village.
Nêzî dused û heştê xanî û derdora sê hezar kes li gund dijîn. Close to two hundred and eighty houses and around three thousand people live in the village.
Lê hejmareke mezin ji xelkê gund ji ber ketina çeteyan da 'Efrînê, koçî derveyî welat kirin. But a large number of the village's people emigrated abroad due to the gangs entering Afrin.
Belê temaşevanên hêja, îro jî em li gundê Çetel Ziyaretê ne. Yes, dear viewers, today we are in the village of Chatal Ziyaret.
Ev gunda deriyê Çiyayê Kurmênc e. This village is the gate of Kurmenc Mountain [Afrin].
Deriyê Efrînê ye. It is the gate of Afrin.
Berê Kurdistan parçe be. Before Kurdistan was partitioned.
Di wê demê da, di vî gundî da ciyê fehsê bû. At that time, in this village, was the place of inspection [customs/checkpoint].
Navbera Kurdistana û bajarê Helebê bû. It was between Kurdistan and the city of Aleppo.
Li vir jî xanek heye. Here there is also a Khan [Inn/Caravanserai].
Me xwest hinekî dîroka vê xanê em nas bikin. We wanted to get to know the history of this Khan a little bit.
Xwediyê xanê jî hatin derdora me, em jî sipasiya wan dikin. De ka em bi hevra wan nas bikin û dîroka xanê nas bikin. The owners of the Khan also came around us, we thank them too. Let's get to know them together and learn the history of the Khan.
Merheba ji we ra. Hello to you all.
Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome.
Em destpêkê we nas bikin? Shall we introduce you first?
Ya ehlen we sehlen. Oh, welcome.
Navê min 'Emer. My name is Amar.
Ser çava. With pleasure [Nice to meet you].
Serê te sax. May you be healthy.
Em te jî nas bikin. Let's get to know you too.
Navê min Cemîl. My name is Jamil.
Ser çava. Nice to meet you.
Navê min 'Ebdilqadir. My name is Abdulqadir.
Ser çava. Apo Cemîl em destpêkê ji cem te destpê bikin. Nice to meet you. Uncle Jamil, let's start with you first.
Wa behsê kir wa got ev xan e. It was mentioned that this is a Khan.
Berê Kurdistan parçe be, miletê Bakurê Kurdistanê, û miletê Efrîn, û miletê Çiyayê Lêlûn, di vir ra diçûn Helebê dihatin. Before Kurdistan was partitioned, the people of Northern Kurdistan, the people of Afrin, and the people of Lelun Mountain, used to go to Aleppo and come back through here.
Temam. Correct.
Erê. Right?
Erê. Yes.
Ev xana kengî çêbû û kê girt? When was this Khan built and who occupied/built it?
Ev xana hîn kalkê me girt. Our grandfather occupied/built this Khan.
Navê xwa çi bû? What was its name?
Navê xwa 'Îsik bû. Its name was Isik [Isa's Khan].
Di kîjan demê da, kîjan salê da bû? In what time, what year was it?
'Emrê xanê bû sê sed sal. The age of the Khan is three hundred years.
Yanî ev xana sê sed sal e çêkirin? Kalkê we çêkir? Meaning this Khan was built three hundred years ago? Your grandfather built it?
Kalkê me çêkir. Our grandfather built it.
Sê sed sal da. Three hundred years ago.
Ev xana yek tenê, lê... hinek din jî hene di gund da? Is this Khan the only one, or... are there others in the village?
Xana... heb yek, û ê dê yek li kêlekê û yek li kêlekê. The Khan... there is one, and then one on this side and one on that side.
Yanî sê xan di gund da hene? Meaning there are three Khans in the village?
Her sê me bûn. All three were ours.
Ji ber ku dibêjin ev deriyê Çiyayê Kurmênc e. Because they say this is the Gate of Kurmenc Mountain.
Deriyê Efrînê ye. It is the Gate of Afrin.
Ev, ji vir ra diçûn dihatin. This one, they went and came through here.
Ji vir ra diçûn dihatin. They went and came through here.
Li cem me... At our place...
...ew dibûn. ...they stayed.
Li cem me sîraha [îstîraha] bûn. They rested at our place.
Ê di wê demê da ew ê karkî ta tenê bû, lê yê kesê din jî...? And at that time, was that one just your grandfather's, or were there others too...?
Ê kalkê min tenê bû. It was only my grandfather's.
Ka em tiştekî şta bipirsin? Can we ask you something?
Bûyurî. Go ahead.
Di wê demê, dema derbasê vê xanê çi dikirin yanî? At that time, when they passed by this Khan, what did they do?
Îstîraha xwa dikirin, hêştirê xwa ka didan, nan dixwarin, lebat dixwarin. Yanî heya serê girtin dihat, mesela rok, du ro, 'edil mûaxeze li xanê de îstîraha xwa dikirin. They took their rest, gave straw to their mules/camels, ate bread, ate meals. Meaning until sunset came, for example a day, two days, excuse me, they would rest in the Khan.
Barê xwa bar dikirin, 'edil mûaxeze, diçûn bajarê Helebê, ji bajarê Helebê dihatin vir. They would load their loads, excuse me, go to the city of Aleppo, and from the city of Aleppo they came here.
Ku îstîraha dîsa xanê malê 'Îsêyê Ehmed. To rest again at the Khan of the house of Isa Ahmed.
Ê ro, bûn mesela sibe da barê xwa bar dikiran, 'edil mûaxeze. And when day came, for example in the morning they would load their loads, excuse me.
Ê baraf dikirin, Berxût bûn, Mecîde bûn, beqa çi bû wê tarîxê sê sed sal da, ez nizanim wan e. They would pay up, it was Bargut [coins], Majidi [coins], whatever was [currency] in that history of three hundred years, I don't know those.
Apê min Hemîd, apê min Bero. Rehmetî ye bu şa'bê qicikê zarokê çûk bû. My uncle Hamid, my uncle Bero. He is deceased, he was a small child of the people then.
Ê beref dikir rib, Mecîde, van hêştrana ka didan, xwarin didanê, beqa Berxût dibirin. He used to collect quarter [coins], Majidis, they gave straw to these mules, gave them food, and took Barguts basically.
Ê nan, bi xwestina 'Edûlê Xaşûfa digo rab nanekî merediyê birahîm bike. And bread, by the request of Adule Khashufa, she would say stand up and make some 'Meredi' bread for Ibrahim.
Diya Ibrahîmê rabûa jêra lepe çêkira. Ibrahim's mother would stand up and make meals for him.
Ê tewiqê xwa yê sê kîlo zêt bû, hîç di'esirand sê-çar kîlo zêt ew dikirin. And his plate was three kilos of oil, he would press three or four kilos of oil into it.
'Edûlê Xaşûfa, ê çarik pêşiyê xwa da, ê tijî pîvaz. Adule Khashufa, with her apron in front of her, full of onions.
'Edûlê digo diya Îbrahîm kanî pîvazekê me de. Adule would say, "Mother of Ibrahim, where is it, give us an onion."
Wa pîvazê wê tarîxê tizanî, rib Barxûtek bû, Barxûtek bû, ehle bû. Those onions of that history, you know, were a quarter Bargut, a Bargut, it was expensive.
Ê sibe da rabûna hêştirê xwa bar dikirana, se'ûra, ê bi çûna kû? Bajarê Helebê. And in the morning they would get up and load their mules, [with] barley, and go where? To the city of Aleppo.
Bajarê Helebê diçûna xanê. In the city of Aleppo they would go to the Khan.
Û ji xanê ji wir dihatin, mesela dihatine xanê malê 'Îsêyê Ehmed. And from the Khan there they would come, for example they came to the Khan of the house of Isa Ahmed.
Îstîraha xan, îstîraha bû. Rest at the Khan, it was a rest stop.
Heya ser girtin dihat zistan, du ro, sê ro xew dikirin. Until sunset came in winter, they would sleep for two days, three days.
Ê rabûna, ba hêştrê wara, metê me, rehm... miriyê te be, ê rabûna... They would get up, for their mules, our aunt, may... have mercy on your dead, they would get up...
Te'îş. Long life to you.
Ê rabûna hevkirtina, vê digos ka zibil çak me, vê digos ka zibil çak me. They would get up and quarrel, this one saying "Let me clean the manure," that one saying "Let me clean the manure."
Ê beref kirona Barxût, Mecîde, her yekî teqrîben navê xwa çiye... ha leçek Barxût beref dikirin. And they collected Barguts, Majidis, each one approximately whatever its name is... ha, they collected a kerchief full of Barguts.
Li nav merîka bi şev danî, hîzê zêtê danî nî, rûn e, hijîr in, mûj e, bastêq e, tizanî, xon e. They put it among the men at night, put down the skins of oil, ghee, figs, raisins, fruit roll-ups, you know, it's a Khan.
Merîka bi şev rabû hêştirê xwa bar ke... The men would get up at night to load their mules...
Îlla ka te jî bike. Belê dugu rê na. You must pay up. Yes, straight to the road.
Ê waha ne, rabû Hemîdê rehmetî bêjingê dest xwa kir. And so it was, the late Hamid got up and took the sieve in his hand.
Ê beref kira, Barxût bûn, Mecîde bûn, bêjingê erd ka pê ar dibêtnî, ah bêjingek danî. And he collected, they were Barguts, Majidis, the sieve for the floor that you sift flour with, ah, he filled a sieve.
Spas. Apo Cemîl ez tiştekî jî te bipirsim, aşkere te be. Thank you. Uncle Jamil, let me ask you something too, if I may.
Ka ez werim cem te. Let me come to you.
Niha ama milet... kesê dihatin vir tenê ticar dihatin? Now, the people... the people who came here, was it only merchants who came?
Yan milet wekî din jî dihat? Or did other people come as well?
Milet dihat, milet. People came, people.
Yanî ticar, ji ber ku dibêjim... te dît em dimînin... ciyê tîcaretê ye, ciyê navbera... I mean merchants, because I say... you see we remain... it's a place of trade, a place between...
Helebê û 'Entabê dayê. Aleppo and Antep.
Herdu jî ciyê ticaretê ne. Both are places of trade.
Ewe le xê, ewe. That is it, that is it.
Erê. Yes.
Ewa piser dewer tan dihot, dewer dihotin, bet hesiya li vir. Those passing through came, the animals came, they slept here.
Vê derê rûdiniştin. They sat in this place.
Lê... But...
Wa şibhet ke bet hes mesela, ê bi şev biçûna Heleb. As it happened, for example, those who slept at night would go to Aleppo.
Se'ûr da rabûna biçûna, ê bar kirana, barê xwa zêt e, rûn e, sincix e, mûj in. At dawn/barley-time they would get up and go, having loaded, their load is oil, ghee, dried fruits, raisins.
Ê barê xwa birana Heleb. And took their load to Aleppo.
Nana apo hêja, ev kengî ev xana sekinî yanî? Kes namîne tê vira. No, dear uncle, when did this Khan stop? No one stays in it anymore.
Yanî bû teqrîben sed pêncî sal, du sed sal. It has been approximately one hundred and fifty years, two hundred years.
Wa dorê ne. Around that time.
Yanî zûda sekinî ye? Meaning it stopped a long time ago?
Sekinî ye. It stopped.
E piştyî rê qut bûn, der bûn, ew sînor jî çêbû... Was it after the roads were cut, became separate, and that border was created...
Çêbû, eywa. It was created, yes.
Navbera Rojava û Bakurê Kurdistanê miletê Bakur jî nikarîbû hata. Between Rojava [West] and Bakur [North] Kurdistan, the people of the North couldn't come anymore.
Ê makîne derketin, sekinî wê demê da. And machines [cars] came out, it stopped at that time.
Dawar, dawar nema. Pack animals, pack animals were no more.
Sekinî. It stopped.
Makîne derketin. Machines came out.
Hana qut bû. It was cut off like that.
Ê. Yes.
Tiştekî şta bipirsim? Can I ask you something?
Bûri. Go ahead.
Naha ev wa dibehsê kir, wa got kalê we 'Îs bû. Now as it was mentioned, it was said your grandfather was Isa.
Wî... He...
Piştî 'Îsê, kesê bi dest... kê xudanî lê kir? Bi dest kê da ma? After Isa, who held... who took care of it? In whose hands did it remain?
Bavê min xudanî lê kir. My father took care of it.
Çend sal ev dest wî da jî ma? How many years did it remain in his hands?
Ê welle emrê wî... Oh well, his age...
Dora nod û pênc salan bû. It was around ninety-five years.
Yanî çend salan bi dest da ma, ew lê xudî derket yanî? I mean how many years did it remain in his hands, that he looked after it?
Dest da ma heta ka xwaş bû bi dest da bû. It remained in his hands until he was well/alive, it was in his hands.
Te bîra tê? Do you remember?
Ee, na bîra te? Yes, don't you remember?
Te bîra... wexta dî tê bîra min. You remember... I remember the other time.
Na na, dema lêxist, di derdê kê de, dema diha... êê... vî cihî... No no, when it struck, in whose trouble, when it came... uh... this place...
Ê dema... Yes, the time...
Dema em çûk bûn. The time when we were small.
Ê kengî şehitî ser avê dikir? So when did you swim/bathe in the water?
Haho, na... pişta gund da ax bû, av pê de çû, şehitî. Oh my, no... behind the village there was soil, water went over it, [we] swam.
Xwedê kêmasiyê w' nede, saeta we xweş. May God not give you any lack, have a good time.
Li Rojhilatî gundê Aqîbê ye, Helebê û Efrînê. It is to the east of Aqibe village, [between] Aleppo and Afrin.
Gundên xirîb ke, Kifê û bajarokê Dêrcimêl. Near the villages of Khirbe, Kifê, and the town of Deir Jemal.
Li başûr gundê Meyrê û bajarokê Nibilê. To the south are the village of Meyrê and the town of Nubl.
Li rojava Xirabê, Qunêtrê, gundê Aqîbê û Geliyê Hec Elî ye. To the west are Xirabê, Qunêtrê, Aqibe village, and the Hec Elî Valley.
Û li bakur gundê Bênê, Cilbir û Basilê ne. And to the north are the villages of Bênê, Cilbir, and Basilê.
Xelkê gund debara jiyana xwe bi çandiniyê dikin. The people of the village make their living through agriculture.
Û çandina dexl û danên ceh, nîsk di asta yekemîn de tê. And the planting of crops like barley and lentils comes in the first rank.
Digel dexl û dan, zeviyên zeytûnan jî tên çandin. Along with crops, olive orchards are also cultivated.
Hin malbat sewalan xwedî dikin û çêlekana jî xwedî dikin. Some families raise livestock and also raise cows.
Hejmarek ji xort û mêrên gund di karê avahiya xaniyan de kar dikin. A number of the young men and men of the village work in house construction.
Û bêhtirî sed kes ji jin û mêran di sazî û desteyên Rêveberiya Xweser a Demokratîk li Basût û Efrînê dixebitin. And more than a hundred people, women and men, work in the institutions and bodies of the Democratic Autonomous Administration in Basuta and Afrin.
Her wiha du pakrewan ji gund hene: Şehîd Abdo Koso û Şehîd Mihemed Oso. Likewise, there are two martyrs from the village: Martyr Abdo Koso and Martyr Muhammad Oso.
Hêjayî gotinê ye ku di bombebarana balafirên rejîma Sûriyê de çar kesên sivîl ji gund di sala 2013an de... It is worth mentioning that in the bombing by the Syrian regime's planes, four civilians from the village in the year 2013...
...û her wiha çar jî di sala 2016an de jiyana xwe ji dest dan. ...and likewise four in the year 2016 lost their lives.
Amade ne? Are you ready?
Tu xwe bidî naskirin. Introduce yourself.
Ez... navê min Mehmûd Nûrî Bekê. Mişmala Bekê. I... my name is Mahmoud Nuri Bake. The Bake clan.
Way serçavê min. Tu xwe bidî naskirin? You are very welcome. Introduce yourself?
Remezan Hesen... (indistinct)... gundî. Ramadan Hassan... (indistinct)... from the village.
Tu ji gundê Çetel Zaretê? You are from the village of Chatel Zarat?
Ji Çetel Zaretê, naam. From Chatel Zarat, yes.
Serçavê min. You are very welcome.
Serçavê we sax be, hun bi xêr hatine ser seran û ser çavan. May you be well, you are welcome upon our heads and eyes.
Tu go tu mele ye, tu xoce ye? You said you are a Mullah, are you a teacher?
Em pirsyarkê jê te pirsken. We will ask him a question.
Keremkin, ehlen wa sehlen. Please, welcome.
Na, ji ber ku hûn derbasî gundê me bûn... No, since you have entered our village...
Ê gundê me jî bi ziaretê tê naskirin. And our village is known by the shrine.
Wusa gotin, li ser dîroka gund axifîn. So they said, they spoke about the history of the village.
Ê me xwest em derbasî wê ciyê pîroz bibin. So we wanted to enter that holy place.
Em wê ziaretê nas bikin. So we can get to know that shrine.
Gotin di mizgeftê da ye, em jî derbas bûn. They said it is in the mosque, so we entered too.
Serdila û serçava û bi xêr hatin, û batina we pir kêfxweş in hevalên me Rûnahî û ehlen wa sehlen jî were ji vî gundî re. Welcome with all our hearts, we are very happy inside, our friends from Ronahi [TV], and welcome to this village.
Sax be. Em di ku derê... ew ziaret di ku derê ye? Thank you. Where do we... where is that shrine?
Ziaret li vê derê ye. Va zaret a ye, ha vira dibên Şehîd Şêx Yûsif el-Kûfî. The shrine is right here. This is the shrine, right here they call it Martyr Sheikh Yusuf al-Kufi.
Ka keremkin em derbas bin. Please, let us enter.
Keremkin. Please.
Na ev ziaret e. Ev tirbe ye? So this is the shrine. Is this the tomb?
Va goristan e. This is the graveyard.
Ev gora kî ye? Whose grave is this?
Va tirba êê... Şehîd Şêx Yûsif el-Kûfî ye. This is the tomb of uh... Martyr Sheikh Yusuf al-Kufi.
Haho qedîm e, dîrokê vî gundî ji 1300 sal da ye. It is very ancient, the history of this village is from 1300 years ago.
Ji 1300 sal da, di gona Futuhat el-Îslamiye da... From 1300 years ago, during the Islamic Conquests...
Îslam ji wê da hatin. Islam came from over there.
Ji ku derê? From where?
Ji Kûfê. From Kufa.
Ji Iraqê? From Iraq?
Ji Iraqê, ji Kûfê hatin vê derê. From Iraq, from Kufa they came here.
Vê derê Roman bû. Here it was Romans.
Hatin ji bû... Roman bû bes vêrê erdê Kurda bû. Hatin ku vêrê rizgar bikin. They came because... it was Roman but this was Kurdish land. They came to liberate this place.
Îslam ji wê da hatine vê derê. Islam came from over there to here.
Kê li vê derê rizgar kirin, rabû li ser vî erdî, li ser vê herêmê, jengekî pir mezin çêbû. When they liberated this place, on this land, in this region, a very big battle took place.
Û serekî... êê... serekî wa... ewana şakirtî wan eskerana, Şêx Yûsif el-Kûfî bû. And the leader... uh... their leader... the disciple of those soldiers, was Sheikh Yusuf al-Kufi.
Şêx Yûsif el-Kûfî li vê derê jengekî pir mezin kirin. Sheikh Yusuf al-Kufi fought a very big battle here.
Pismamekî xwe jî vêra bû, vêra digotin Şêx Mihemed el-Kûfî. His cousin was also here, they called him Sheikh Muhammad al-Kufi.
Demaka dirêj li vêrê jeng û herb çêbû, rabû li vêrê şehîd ket. For a long time a battle and war happened here, and he was martyred here.
Li vêrê şehîd ket, miletiyê wê wextê li vêrê kirine erdê. Li vêrê veşartin. He was martyred here, the people of that time put him in the ground here. Buried here.
Rabû li ser wana, li ser wana rabû qubbe girtin, rabû zaretak çêkirin. Then over them, over them they built a dome, they made a shrine.
Li vê derê zaret çêkirin... They made a shrine here...
Zaretak çêkirin bi du qubba. They made a shrine with two domes.
Bi du qubba çêkirin. Û bûye zaret û nav, hemû gunda dihatan naskirin li ser wî esasî. They made it with two domes. And it became a shrine and a name, all the villages came to know it on that basis.
Êno du zaret di vî gundî da ne, va bûye zaret. Ji vêra digotin zareta Şêx Yûsif el-Kûfî. Since there are two shrines in this village, this became a shrine. They called this the shrine of Sheikh Yusuf al-Kufi.
Pir qedîm e, ji 1300 sal da ye. Va camiya heye, va camiya jî Omarî ye. Qedîm e, pir qedîm e, kevn e va camiya. It is very ancient, from 1300 years ago. This mosque exists, this mosque is also Omari. It is ancient, very ancient, this mosque is old.
Ka tiştekî jê te pirs kim. Behsa qubbê kirin, qubbe nema ye dî? Let me ask you something. You mentioned the dome, is the dome not seen anymore?
Qubbek vê derê bû, û cewherek tê de bû, or tê de bû. There was a dome here, and there was a jewel inside, a light inside.
Zemanê xoda, îmamê camiyê hat... In his time, the Imam of the mosque came...
Go tu nekinî xwedî, parastinê, diz tê ewê... diz hatin, xwestin bidizin. He said don't you protect it... thieves are coming to... thieves came, wanted to steal it.
Ê dizî xwestin bikin, nekî niha mehfezekî, vê qubbê bû. So they wanted to steal, there was a casing in this dome.
Hat, revî dihat, rûvî. He came, he was running away, a fox.
Dihat ew dikirine şem' dikirine. Wa rûvî, şem' dixwarin. He came, they were turning it into candles. Those foxes were eating the candles.
Wa şem'ane dixwarin, bê zaretê da. They were eating those candles, inside the shrine.
Îmamê camiyê hat, destê xwe pişta xwe xist, go tu nekî niha hîmayet kî... The Imam of the mosque came, put his hands behind his back, said won't you protect it now...
...revî tê ewê dixwa, riyê paşê hat xoce, hew revya a ê ve aliqandin di ye, cew... qubbê ve. Hana me re hewaldan me dî. ...a fox comes and eats it. Later the teacher came, [saw] those foxes were hanging there, [from] the dome. Like that, they told us, we saw.
Ê qubbe? And the dome?
Qubbe vê derê bû, xelkê dihat dewat şerjê dikir, merûm diniştin... The dome was here, people used to come and slaughter [sacrifices], people sat...
Ew qubbe ma ne dî ye? That dome is not seen anymore?
Qubbe, Daîşî hatine vê derê, û qubbe teqandin. The dome, ISIS came here, and blew up the dome.
Em dema derbas... Daîş derbasî gundê we bûye? When we entered... ISIS has entered your village?
Ewa. Yes.
Di wê demê da teqandin? Did they blow it up at that time?
Teqandin lê. Teqandin. They blew it up, yes. They blew it up.
O qubbe vê derê, giblat û borselan bû, gi bû, teqandin. And the dome was here, it was [facing] Qibla and porcelain, it was all there, they blew it up.
Nexwe em bêjin, berî vê dema... hun derbasî gund bûn, vegeriyan gundê xwe, hun çawa... kengî vegeriyan vê derê? So let us say, before this time... when you entered the village, returned to your village, how did you... when did you return here?
Ba'dî hevalan hatin gundê me birin... After the friends [YPG/SDF] came and took our village...
Wê paşê em heftakî hatine gundê xwe. A week after that we came to our village.
Bes îmam berê li gund bû? But the Imam was in the village before?
Îmam gund da bû. The Imam was in the village.
Tu ji gund derneket? You didn't leave the village?
Na, ji gund derneketin. No, didn't leave the village.
Têkiliya Daîş para çawa bû? How was the relationship with ISIS then?
Wellah, wa sala 2013a hatin vêrê çetan Daîş. By God, in the year 2013 the ISIS gangs came here.
Ya wana bi zareta îman nakin. Înanê wan bi zareta tune, yaqînê wan bi zareta tune. They do not believe in shrines. They have no faith in shrines, they have no certainty in shrines.
Dibêjin ne Misilmanetî ye. They say it is not Islam.
Ya, ta Misilmanan... ta bêjin, yanî wana navê Misilmana xera kiriye. Yes, even Muslims... even if they say, meaning they have ruined the name of Muslims.
Yanî bi hatin, yaqînê xwe bi zareta tune ne. Înanê xwe bi zareta tune ne. Hatin ketne vî gundî. Rabû ketne îşê vêrê... Meaning they came, they have no certainty in shrines. They have no faith in shrines. They came and entered this village. They started working here...
Teqandin. Her du hilweşandin. They blew it up. They demolished both of them.
Her du zaret hilweşandin. Û wey dî ye di vî halî da ye zareta me anha. They demolished both shrines. And as seen, our shrine is in this state now.
Tu wê demê tû li ku derê bû? Where were you at that time?
Wê demê ez ne li vêrê bûm. Wê demê... ez li gundê Şêrwê bûm. At that time I wasn't here. At that time... I was in the village of Sherawa.
Ez çûm ziaret... li gundê Şêrwê, ma xêr bi me nedikirin. I went to the shrine... in the village of Sherawa, they didn't treat us well.
Ê em ji gund derketin, em çûne gundê Şêrwê. Bi me ra gotin zaret teqandine, em sê rojê din fitilîn hatine vî gundî. So we left the village, we went to the village of Sherawa. They told us they blew up the shrine, three days later we turned back and came to this village.
Ê çi bar dikotin? Daîş dema didîtin tu Kurd e û tu gundê me ye? Çi bi te ra digotin? And what were they saying? When ISIS saw you are a Kurd and you are from our village? What did they say to you?
Bi navê îslamiyetiyê dihatin dikirin, yanî wana jî bi xwe, yanî îslamiyetiyekî dûr e. They came acting in the name of Islam, meaning they themselves, meaning it's a distant Islam [far from true Islam].
Yanî bi navê îslamiyetiyê dihatin dikirin, yanî em şaş in û ew rast in. Meaning they came acting in the name of Islam, meaning we are wrong and they are right.
Û ne rast e jî, ewan gotinên wana gi ne rast in. And it is not true either, all those words of theirs are not true.
Yanî wa hatine vêrê navê îslamiyetiyê yanî... hinda kirin. Navê îslamiyetiyê xera kirin yanî. Meaning they came here the name of Islam... they lost it. They ruined the name of Islam, meaning.
Ka ewê din li ku derê ye te go? Where is the other one you mentioned?
Ewa din jî... ewa jî pismamkî xwe ye. The other one too... that is also his cousin.
Vêra dibên Şêx Mihemed el-Kûfî, hev jî tirba xwe ye. They call him Sheikh Muhammad al-Kufi, this is his tomb too.
Vêra dibên Şêx Mihemed el-Kûfî, me berê vê hewaldan ştêre. They call this place Sheikh Muhammad al-Kufi, we told you this before.
Me go, leşkerê, yanî... serokê leşkerê wan eskerana, Şehîd Şêx Yûsif el-Kûfî bû. We said, the army, meaning... the leader of the army of those soldiers, was Martyr Sheikh Yusuf al-Kufi.
Ka em biçinê. Let's go to it.
Ev jî pismamê xwe ye, hev jî hat li vêrê şehîd ket. This is his cousin, he also came and was martyred here.
Ê. Is this his grave?
Ê. Yes.
Hevo tirba xwe ye, hev jî li vê derê ye. This is his tomb, he is also here.
Beriya Daîş were, xelk dihatin vê derê? Before ISIS came, did people come here?
Berê du qubbe li ser bûn. Qubbên mezin bûn. Before, there were two domes on it. They were big domes.
Û pir xelkî me dihat, ji dûr, ji nêzîk, î ke andekî xwe heye, yanî î ke mrazekî xwe heye. And a lot of our people used to come, from far, from near, whoever had a sorrow, meaning whoever had a wish.
Dihatin vî gundî, yaqîna xwe teb'en berî gi bi Xwedê dikirin û di dûra jî van zaretana. They came to this village, their certainty naturally first of all was in God and then in these shrines.
Dihatin, li andê xwe dihatin, li mrazê xwe dihatin, û mrazê xwe bi cî dibû. They came, came for their sorrows, came for their wishes, and their wishes were fulfilled.
Qurban tanîn ji dûr. Yanî qurbanên tanîn, qurbanê xwe jerje dikirin. Berê li vê derê, va camiya tune bû. They brought sacrifices from afar. Meaning they brought sacrifices, slaughtered their sacrifices. Before here, this mosque didn't exist.
Gî li wan bûn berê, û gî qentere bûn. Tanîn, pir kesî tanîn qurbanê xwe li vêrê jerje dikirin. It was all about them before, and they were all arches. They brought, many people brought their sacrifices and slaughtered them here.
Dikirin par, li feqîr fuqara bela dikirin. They divided it, distributed it to the poor and needy.
Kesnî jî qurbanên xwe tanîn, li vê derê jerje dikirin, yanî şîvekî xa çêdikirin wek zemanê berê girme, em bibêjin lebenê tirş çêdikirin. Some also brought their sacrifices, slaughtered them here, meaning they made a dinner for themselves, like the old times [call it] Girme, let's say they made sour yogurt.
Û milletî gund dawet ser dikirin, û vî milletî dihat dixwar û kêf xweş dibûn. And they invited the village people to it, and this people came and ate and were happy.
Wanakî derbas dibû, heta sala 2013a. Me bi wera go, Daîş hata vê derê. It passed like that, until the year 2013. We told you, ISIS came here.
Gundê me, te go navê wî çi ye? Our village, what did you say its name is?
Gundê me navê xwe bûye Çetel Zaret. Our village, its name became Chatel Zarat.
Xêra vêra digotin Çetel Zaret, dibe nika pir kes nizan e, ku xêra dibên va gunda navê xwe Çetel Zaret e. The reason they called this place Chatel Zarat, maybe now many people don't know, why they say this village's name is Chatel Zarat.
Çetel Zaret, berî nika 1506a, sala 1506a, Osmanlî hata ser vê herêmê, li ser vî erdî. Chatel Zarat, before now 1506, year 1506, the Ottomans came to this region, on this land.
Ketin vî gundî, sehkirin di vî gundî de du zaret hene. They entered this village, saw that there are two shrines in this village.
Du zaret û li hember hev in wek çetela. Two shrines and they are opposite each other like a fork (Çetel).
Rabû lê nav kirin, Çetel Zaret li ser wî esasî. So they named it, Chatel Zarat on that basis.
Li ser wî esasî vêra gotin va gunda Çetel Zaret e. On that basis they said this village is Chatel Zarat.
Û zana pir gund jî d'mentîqê da... And know that many villages too in the area...
Xwedê ji te razî be, yanî nîvê xelkê Tirkiyê ye, ji yek soxanekê, gundî me ye yanî Çetelbixwa Tirkiye ye. May God bless you, I mean half the people are from Turkey, from one onion [insignificant place], our villager is basically Turkey itself.
Mala we ava be. May your home be prosperous [Thank you].
Xwedê ji te razî be bi hatina we, firqek xweş in, û Xwedê ji we razî be. May God bless you for your coming, you are a good group, and may God bless you.
Û ez spas dikim, û zehmet û nahî, û serkeftin be, ji hevalê me re û ji gelê me, gelê Kurdistan, û çar parçên Kurdistanê re. And I thank you, for the trouble and efforts, and may there be success, for our friend and for our people, the people of Kurdistan, and for the four parts of Kurdistan.
Xwedê ji we razî be. Be healthy [Thanks].
Xwedê ji we razî be. May God bless you.
Ew a xweş e, ew a xweş e. That one is good, that one is good.
Spas, spas, saet xweş. Thanks, thanks, have a good time.
Xwedê ji we razî be. May God bless you.
Hec Mistoyê Xwedê odeya yekem a vî gundî bû. Hec Misto Xwedê [Hec Misto of the Xwedê family] was the first room [house] of this village.
Ji ber ku gund li ser riya Heleb û Efrînê bû, gelek rêwî bi meş û dewaran diçûn û dihatin. Because the village was on the road between Aleppo and Afrin, many travelers used to come and go on foot and with animals.
Li vir xaniyek, ango otêlek hatibû avakirin, li rêwî dihatin pêşwazîkirin. Here a house, meaning a hotel, was built, where travelers were welcomed.
Gundê Çetel Ziyaretê, tekan e gund ji kantona Efrînê dikeve ser rêya çûyîn û hatina Helebê. Çetel Ziyaretê village is the only village in the Afrin canton that lies on the route going to and coming from Aleppo.
Lê mixabin, piştî çete yan hatin, demekî dirêj ma bû. But unfortunately, after the gangs came, it remained [occupied] for a long time.
Çeteyên Artêşa Azad di 22ê Çara 2013an de derbasî gund bûn. The gangs of the Free Army entered the village on April 22, 2013.
Ji ber bombebarana balafirên rêjîmê, piraniya xelkê gund neçar man ku ji gund derkevin. Due to the bombardment by the regime's planes, the majority of the village's people were forced to leave the village.
Ji wê demê ve çete yan desthilatdariya xwe li ser gund sepandin. Since that time, the gangs imposed their authority over the village.
Wan gelek kiryarên xirab li gund kirin, dizî û girtina gundiyan. They committed many bad acts in the village, stealing and arresting villagers.
Berî çend rojan ji rizgarkirina gund, balafirên Rûsî gund bombebaran kirin. A few days before the liberation of the village, Russian planes bombarded the village.
Û di encamê de 35 xanî hatin hilweşandin. And as a result, 35 houses were destroyed.
Di 4ê Sibata 2016an de, hêzên YPG û YPJ, pişta şehîd dayîna nemir Şehîd Rojelat, gundê Çetel Ziyaretê bi temamî rizgar kirin. On February 4, 2016, the YPG and YPJ forces, following the martyrdom of the immortal Martyr Rojelat, completely liberated the village of Çetel Ziyaretê.
Her wiha rêjeya xwendinê di gund de bilind e. Also, the rate of education in the village is high.
Derdora 60 kesî ji jin û mêran bawernameyên zanîngehê ji hemû beşan standine. Around 60 people, both men and women, have received university degrees from all departments.
Dibistaneke seretayî û yek amadeyî bi navê Şehîd Baz hene. There is a primary school and a preparatory school named Martyr Baz.
Komîna gund bi navê Şehîd Şahîn Rojelat e. The village commune is named Martyr Shahin Rojelat.
Û komîna jin jî bi navê Şehîd Rûken e. And the women's commune is named Martyr Ruken.
Navendeke tenduristiyê, mizgeftek kevnar, benzînxane yek, pêşgehek û guvaşgeheka zeytûnan li gund hene. A health center, an ancient mosque, a gas station, a showroom, and an olive press are in the village.
Belê, îro em li gundê Çetel Ziyaretê digerin. Yes, today we are touring the village of Çetel Ziyaretê.
Bi rastî jî me got em vê gundî nas bikin. Truly, we said let's get to know this village.
Neha jî em derbasî malekî bûn, ev malbat jî hemû karê wênesaziyê dike. Now we have entered a home, this family also does all the work of painting.
Neha jî mamosta Rûzan li vir e, em ê silav bikinê. Merheba ji te re. Now teacher Rûzan is here, we will greet her. Hello to you.
Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome.
Mamosta, hinekî malbata we hemû vê karî dikin, karê wênesaz dikin. Teacher, [it seems] your whole family does this work, the work of painting.
Bi vê te, binav û deng e, mamosta Ezîz. With this, [he] is famous, teacher Aziz.
Ezîz, rehma Xwedê lê be. Aziz, may God have mercy on him.
Birayê te jî, hene çend kes di mal da vê karî dikin? Your brothers too, how many people in the house do this work?
Em sê bira k im in. Behzad Kedro, Awaz Kedro, Mihemed Kedro, û ez va, em vê karî dikin. We are three brothers/siblings. Behzad Kedro, Awaz Kedro, Mohammed Kedro, and I, we do this work.
Tu bi xwe, ne ji gundê Çetel Ziyaretê yî? You yourself, are you not from Çetel Ziyaretê village?
Ez bênî me. Ez bênî me, bes bû teqrîben 24 sal hatime vê gundî. I am from outside. I am from outside, but it has been approximately 24 years since I came to this village.
We li vê gundî mam û vê karî dikim. And I stayed in this village and I do this work.
Tu bûka vê gundî yî? You are the bride of this village?
Erê bûka vê gundî me. Yes, I am the bride of this village.
Serçava. You are welcome [Upon my eyes].
Neha em bêjin, hinekî bi hesab bavê xwe bike, cîbegu pir caran em diçin cihna, rûdinin, bi hesab bavê te dikin. Dibêjin wênesazekî binav û deng bû, kefin da wî karî dikir. Now let's say, talk a bit about your father [father-in-law], because often we go to places, sit down, and they talk about your father. They say he was a famous painter, doing this work in the old days.
Yanî bavê te ji kengî da vî karî wênesaz dikir? I mean, since when did your father do this painting work?
Bavê min ji mêj da ye, hîn dema mu'elmîn xwend, ustazê resm bû, ji mêj da vê karî dike. My father [father-in-law] has been doing it for a long time, since he studied teaching, he was an art teacher, he has been doing this work for a long time.
Mewalîdê xwe tisûneh bûn, heta ji wê çaxê da, vê mewhîbê vî ra bû, û vê karî xwe mumarese kir. His birth year was [one thousand nine hundred] twenty-nine, so since that time, he had this talent, and he practiced this work of his.
Him ustaz bû, ê resm bû, û him mewhîbê xwe mumarese kir. He was both a teacher, of art, and he practiced his talent.
Û em jî qîçkê xwe, me mewhîbe bavê xwe ra kir. And we, his children, took the talent from our father.
Yanî aîle gişt fennî derket. Meaning the whole family turned out artistic.
We ke dît, kalê te wunke kes hebû vî karî dikir? Di malbata we da? Berî bavê te? As you saw, did your grandfather or anyone like that do this work? In your family? Before your father?
Berî me? Na. Bavê min resamê di aîlê da. Before us? No. My father is the painter in the family.
Û qîçkê da pîremin mewhîbe bi giya ra hene. Yanî aîle malê Kedro bi şeklê am, gî mewhîbe vê ra hene. And in the children, my grandmother [ancestors?]... the talent is with all of them. Meaning the Kedro family in general, all have this talent.
Bes her yekî mewhîbê ke, bes ê pir mumarese kirî, bavê min û birakê min û ez va bû. But each one has a [different] talent, but the ones who practiced it a lot were my father, my brothers, and I.
Û kalikê min Şêx Reşîd Xûce, hewa alim bû li beynê bû, xûce bû. Marûf e dengê wî jî. And my grandfather[-in-law] Sheikh Rashid Khoja, he was a scholar among them, he was a teacher [khoja]. His name is famous too.
Na bavê te li ku derê kar dikir? Now where did your father work?
Bavê min li Heleb bû, li gund bû, yanî di gida ra kar dikir, li Efrîn bû. My father was in Aleppo, in the village, I mean he worked everywhere, he was in Afrin.
Hûn çawa jê fêr bûn? Dema bavê te resm dikir? Win wê demê da li ba win cî fêr bûn? How did you learn from him? When your father was painting? Did you learn from him at that time?
Lê we jî hes kir? Wek bavê we çawa meraq dikir vî karî, we jî le we jî meraq kir? Did you also like it? Just as your father had a passion for this work, did you also have a passion for it?
No, meraq hebû pir, ji bo bavê min, yanî çê dikir vê karî, û meraqê me jî hebû. No [Yes], there was a lot of passion, because my father, I mean he did this work, and we had the passion too.
Me tim dixwest em jî wekî bavê xwe bin, fennan bin. We always wanted to be like our father, to be artists.
Yan ewa meraqê bavê te ra, ma ra jî çêbû? So that passion from your father, did it happen for you [us] too?
Erê, ma ra jî çêbû. Yes, it happened for us too.
Na birayê te digot, behsa kir, du birayê te, sê bira... Now your brother said, he mentioned, two of your brothers, three brothers...
Sê birak min in, sê... I have three brothers, three...
Ew li ku dixebitin? Where do they work?
Hewna noka derketine Almanya, bi dîsa vê karî me'reda xwe ve dikin, der dikin, û li vir jî dişuxilîn, bes ve wez'î da derketin. They have now gone to Germany, again with this work they open their exhibitions, display them, and they worked here too, but in this situation they left.
Û tu li ku derê yî? And where are you?
Ez li Heleb im. Darim gund û têm Heleb. I am in Aleppo. I live in the village and I come [go] to Aleppo.
Tu piraniya li Heleb kar dikî yan na? Do you do the majority of work in Aleppo or no?
Qîçkê min hene, dixwînin, camîane, derin, yanî me'nê musteqbelê qîçka jî, û ez karê xwe dikim. I have children, they are studying, they are university students, they go [to school], meaning for the children's future, and I do my work.
Te tu me'red hene çêkirin e? Have you created any exhibitions?
No, me'red çênekirine. Me'arid bavê min, birakê min çêkirine, û navê me Kedro bi şeklê am, gişt bi hevra me'red meşhûr bû navê me. No, I haven't done exhibitions. My father, my brothers have done exhibitions, and our name Kedro in general, all together, the exhibition was famous by our name.
Na em behsa wênesaz bikin, tu çi pir çêdikî? Now let's talk about painting, what do you create the most?
Ez ê pir, harat şe'biye, tebî'a samte, menazîr tebî'îye, ê pir çêdikim. I [paint] mostly popular neighborhoods, still life, natural landscapes, I create these the most.
Yanî gund, û xûzayiya gund, û ew gelî, ew çiya, tu dikişînî? Meaning the village, and the nature of the village, and those valleys, those mountains, do you draw them?
Erê. Ê pir tebî'a ye. Yes. Mostly it's nature.
Na ez dibînim, ji ber ku ev du tiştê te, te lewheyên te, bêtir tinne li vir? Now I see, because these two things of yours, your paintings, are there no more here?
No welle, li vir tinne, ne, gel Heleb in. No really, there are none here, no, they are with [in] Aleppo.
Bes noka min ev çend lewhe anîne, bes ma'ne... But now I brought these few paintings, but meaning...
Ê pir li Heleb in. The majority are in Aleppo.
Na em ji ber ku ev kîjan gund e? Na ev te gunda çêkiriye? Now, because which village is this? Now you painted this village?
Vê gunda Penêrekê ye. This is the village of Penêrekê.
Tu bi xwe çûyî gundê Penêrekê te dîtiye? Did you yourself go to the village of Penêrekê and see it?
No, min nediye, bes hasebî sûret û awe va me çêkir. No, I haven't seen it, but according to a photo and such I painted it.
Na belê ve, bi salekê em jî çûn li vê gundî me bername çêkir de. Now yes, in a year [a year ago] we also went to this village, we made a program.
Te pir xweş çêkiriye bi rastî ji yanî. Ew delîbe, yanî çawa ew li ser, esbê siwar biye. You have made it very beautifully, truly. That [unclear word, maybe dalibe/path?], meaning how he is mounted on the horse.
Te cilê Kurdî jî li jar çêkiriye? You also painted the Kurdish clothes on him?
Erê, teben, min lewhat kewnandin, îne wet'ê turasî kevin, min gişt xilal di lewheyê kevin, me'ne gişt di lewheyê da belev bikî. Yes, of course, I [compose] old paintings, meaning the old heritage situation, I [put] everything inside the old painting, meaning you distribute everything in the painting.
Ew jî cihê me nas e. That one is also a familiar place to us.
Cihê me nas e, erê. It's a familiar place to us, yes.
Ev kîjan koprî ye? Which bridge is this?
Ew kopriya Meydankê ye. That is the Meydankê bridge.
Noka ketiye bin avê, bes turas e, yanî me çêkir, ma'ne tim turas hinda nebe, tim hebe, belev be. Now it has fallen under the water [submerged], but it is heritage, so we painted it, meaning so that the heritage is never lost, it always exists, it is distributed.
Bi hês cîlê 'acel were, bibîne, îne berê vê pir hebu. So that the coming generation, sees it, that before this existed.
Û ew kopriya kevin a Meydankê bû, neha di bin avê da maye? And that was the old bridge of Meydankê, now it remains under the water?
Wekî te got kopriya hesinî bû. As you said, it was an iron bridge.
Erê, kopriya hesinî bû. Yes, it was an iron bridge.
Yanî cîlê 'acel noka kesek vê kopriyê nediye, nizanin. Meaning the coming generation [current youth], now no one has seen this bridge, they don't know it.
Te bi xwe çûyî li wir dît, yan te wêne dît? Did you yourself go there and see it, or did you see a photo?
No, me li wir dîye. Erê. Me çû tebî'a dît û me çêkir. No [Yes], we saw it there. Yes. We went and saw the nature and we painted it.
Na te piraniya kîjan demê de tu çêdikî sûreta? Now, mostly at what time do you create the pictures?
Ez, çûçik 'emrê min teqrîben de, pênc sal bûn ez çêdikim û heta noka. I, since my young age of approximately ten, five years old I have been painting, up until now.
Mewhîbe ji çûçikê da ra kir, û mumarese kir, û ji wê çaxê da ez çêdikim û heta noka. I picked up the talent from childhood, and practiced it, and from that time I paint up until now.
Cara yekê resm kir, te çi çêkir? The first time you painted, what did you create?
Cara yekê min resm kir, min tebî'a çêkir, bes lewhatit çûçik. Yanî heta erind lê 'elimîm, paşê min dest bi ê mezin kirin. The first time I painted, I created nature, but small paintings. I mean until I learned well, then I started with the big ones.
Ger tu dixwazî tiştekî bêjî? Em ê xatira xwe ji te bixwazin. If you want to say something? We will ask for your permission to leave [say goodbye].
Saet xweş. Ez dixwazim vê mewhîbê, yanî her yekî, welatî xwe, awayê xwe, biftle welatê xwe, kucqos bidûr kevin, gerek biftilin, û her yekî mewhîba xwe heye darxe. Have a good time [Thanks]. I want this talent, meaning everyone, their country, their way, to return to their country, no matter how far they go, they must return, and everyone who has a talent should bring it out.
Yanî çiqas mewhîbe besît be, bes rinde jî yekî ra ke darxe, mumarese ke. Meaning however simple the talent may be, but it is good for one to bring it out, to practice it.
Ne hinda bike û xwe bêlê neke, gerek yek bêlê bike, giç be. Û saet xweş were. Not to lose it and not ignore it, one must pay attention to it, whatever it is. And have a good time [welcome].
Em jî spasiya te dikin. We also thank you.
Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome.
Belê temaşevanên hêja, li vir jî em ê xatira xwe ji we bixwazin. Li vir jî em gihîştine dawiya bernameyê. Yes, dear viewers, here too we will ask for your permission to leave. Here we have reached the end of the program.
Haya hefteyeke din, em ê dîsa bi hevre bin. Bi xatira we. Until another week, we will be together again. Goodbye.
Go eman Elî... Saying oh Ali...
Tlo lo paşa... Oh pasha...
Go ji mêr dengê... nare ne tê... Saying from the man the voice... does not go nor come...
Tu şol min neke, çûba axaretê. Do not question me, [he] would have gone to the hereafter.
[Muzîk] [Music]