Belê temaşevanên hêja, vê carê jî me berê xwe da ye gundê Celê. Yes dear viewers, this time we have turned our way to the village of Jale.
Vê carê jî em li navçeya Reco ne. This time we are in the district of Rajo.
Gundê Celê her kesî bihîstiye, ji dûr da bihîstine. Everyone has heard of the village of Jale, they have heard of it from afar.
Em ê hûr û hûrbûr gundê Celê bibînin, em ê bi hev ra nas bikin. We will see the village of Jale in great detail, we will get to know it together.
Dê ka em binêrin gundê Celê îro çi ji me ra amade kiriye. Let's see what the village of Jale has prepared for us today.
Ey reqîb her, maye qewmê kurd ziman. Oh enemy, the Kurdish people and language remain.
Naşikê û danayê tûpên zeman. They are not broken and do not yield to the cannonballs of time.
Kes nebê kurd dimirin, kurd jîn dibin. Let no one say Kurds are dying, Kurds are living.
Jîn dibe qet nakeve ala kurdan. Living, the Kurdish flag never falls.
Em xortên rengê sor û şoreşê. We are the youth of the red color and the revolution.
Seyr bike xwîna diyan me da rijan. Look at the blood of the mothers that we spilled (sacrificed).
Apo Hecî merheba ji te ra. Uncle Haji, hello to you.
Merheba ji te ra, ehlen we sehlen birayê şerîf. Hello to you, welcome noble brother.
Sax bî. Apo Hecî me xwest îro em derbasî gundê we bibin, gundê Celê bibin. Be healthy. Uncle Haji, we wanted to pass through your village today, to visit Jale village.
Gelo gundê Celê jî bidin naskirin. Milet hemî nas dike gundê Celê, ji dûr da nas dike. To introduce the village of Jale. The people all know Jale village, they know it from afar.
Me xwest em derbasî gund bibin, em hinekî dîroka gund nas bikin. We wanted to enter the village to get to know the history of the village a little.
Ehlen we sehlen bi hatina we, û em pir razî ne û em pir kêf dikin bi hatina we. Welcome to your arrival, and we are very pleased and we are very happy with your arrival.
Sax bî, mala te ava be. Be healthy, may your home be prosperous.
Esasî me, ev gunda, du birak bûn. Cel û Adem. Our basis, this village, was two brothers. Cel and Adem.
Esasî me em ji Celaliyan e. Li eşîra Celaliyan, ji Cizîra Botan em hatin. Our origin is from the Celalî tribe. From the Celalî tribe, we came from Cizîra Botan.
Hatin vê derê, li biniya Xulalka sekrek heye, li sekrekê rûniştin. They came here, below Xulalka there is a dam, they settled at the dam.
Wextê emrê xwe lê derbas kirin, bar kirin, qişle heye li cem me. When they spent their life there, they moved, there is a barracks (outpost) near us.
Ew kuderê dikeve? Where is that located?
Ew va li şerqî gund dikeve. That is located right there to the east of the village.
Hêj lazol erdê wê re pê na navê dibên erdê qişlê. Heta gulek esarî (asayîş) jî cem me heye dibên gula qişlê. Still, the land there is referred to by that name, they call it the barracks land. There is even a security bullet/round near us, they call it the barracks bullet.
Li wir rûniştin, Xwedan dewar bûn. Bi îtifaqî çêkirin. Go tu her Adama rûne, ez ê li vir rûnim. They settled there, they were livestock owners. They made an agreement. He said, "You go settle in Adama, and I will settle here."
Adem çû Adama, me li ser Celê. Cel hat li vê derê rûnişt. Adem went to Adama, we remained on [the lineage of] Cel. Cel came and settled here.
Navê gund bi navê kalkê we ye? Is the village name after your ancestor's name?
Navê vî gundî bi navê kalkê me ye. Navê wî Cel bû, Celê lê nan. The name of this village is after our ancestor. His name was Cel, they named it Celê.
Adama jî çûye navê wî? Did Adama also take his name?
Adama jî navê wî Adem lê nan, ew jî pismamê me ne, ew jî hene, ew jî Adem in. Adama as well, his name was Adem so they named it [Adama], they are also our cousins, they exist too, they are Adems.
Ew pismamê we ne. They are your cousins.
Pismamê me ne. They are our cousins.
Em li vê derê mêşîn kir. Li Celê bûn... Bê Nasirl, Bê Xalid, Bê Hisên, pir bûn. Şeş heftik didî wara. We settled/populated here. We were in Celê... The Nasirs, The Khalids, The Husseins, there were many. Six or seven [generations/groups] gave way.
Ba'dê (paşê) em gihîştinê... wexta ku bofkê (kalkê) me gihîştiniyê, Mist hat meydanê. Afterwards we reached... when our grandfather reached it, Mist (Mustafa) came to the scene.
Ji Celê domo (dema) Mist hat meydanê. From Celê, the time when Mist came to the scene.
Mist, pênc malbat li Mistê çêbûn. Mist, five families were born from Mist.
Lazol li vî gundî rûniştine, em gişt pismamê hev din in. They still sit in this village, we are all cousins of one another.
Mewqi'ê me, çiyayê me, ji kalkê me Celê da maye. Heta hûdûdê Meydanliqê, heta hûdûdê Birîlkê, heta hûdûdê Çaxmaqê. Our location, our mountain, has remained from our ancestor Celê. Up to the border of Meydanli, up to the border of Birilk, up to the border of Chaqmaq.
Ne me kiriye firot. Eva giya (giş) malê kalkê me Celê ye. We did not sell it. All of this is the property of our ancestor Celê.
Apo Hecî, malbatên esasî di gund da, yên kevn di gund da, ji xeynî van pênc malbata, malbatên din hene ku tevlî gund bûne? Uncle Haji, the fundamental families in the village, the old ones in the village, apart from these five families, are there other families that joined the village?
Malbatêt esasî pênc in. The fundamental families are five.
Malbatek jî şenşela (sic) sed û pênc salî şûnda hat tev me bû. One family also, since one hundred and five years ago, came and joined us.
Xasê însanekî bi terbiyey, edebî rind bû, axa xwe da gund. Specifically, he was a well-mannered person, of good character, he gave his land/self to the village.
Did Jindon (Dudu Jindon) em dibênê, Jindo neşê... "Did Jindo" (Two Jindos) we call them, Jindo... [unclear].
Sebagan (girse) û navê wiya... Mala Hemê... Mala Dedikê... Evana gava em dibên qîza Hebeş. The elders and their names... The House of Hemo... The House of Dedik... These ones, when we say the daughter of Hebesh.
Apo Hecî, çend malbat di gund da naha, wek gundê Celê, bi çend malbatan tê naskirin? Uncle Haji, how many families in the village now, as the village of Jale, how many families is it known by?
Malbatêt esasî pênc in. The fundamental families are five.
Malbatek jî şenşela (sic) sed û pênc salî şûnda hat tev me bû. One family also, since one hundred and five years ago, came and joined us.
Did Jindon em dibênê, Jindo neşê... "Did Jindo" we call them, Jindo... [unclear].
Sebagan û navê wiya... Mala Hemê... Mala Dedikê... Evana gava em dibên qîza Hebeş. The elders and their names... The House of Hemo... The House of Dedik... These ones, when we say the daughter of Hebesh.
Çend malbat ji gund çûne Efrînê rûniştine? How many families have gone from the village to settle in Afrin?
Welle malbata esasî çûne, mala Çolîq çûne. By God, the fundamental family went, the Choliq family went.
Evna li mala Mistê ne, mala Çolîq. These are from the house of Mist, the House of Choliq.
Pismamê me ne. They are our cousins.
Û qîçikê Hebeşî, işta ew jî dedîkê genda (gund da), qîza xalê me ye. Ew jî çûne Helebê, Efrînê, ji mêj va. And the children of Hebesh, look they are also the Dediks in the village, our maternal uncle's daughter. They also went to Aleppo, Afrin, a long time ago.
Li Reco kes heye? Is there anyone in Rajo?
Na, li Reco kes tunc ye. No, there is no one at all in Rajo.
Piraniya milet giştî di gund da ye? Is the majority of the nation (people) all in the village?
Piraniya milet giştî di gund da ye. The majority of the people are all in the village.
Ji Mistê vir da, li van pênc malbatana, dora heftê-heştê mal çêbûye. From Mist onwards, from these five families, around seventy to eighty households have formed.
Li wî heftê-heştê malî, em kanin bibên çar sed, sê sed û pêncî, çar sed nefsem (nifûs) çêbûye. In those seventy-eighty households, we can say four hundred, three hundred and fifty, four hundred souls (people) have come to be.
Qîçikê me ye, jinê me çêbûne. They are our children, our wives (families) have formed.
Û gel vî gundî ne, û gel Xwedan mal in, û gel malbat va pênc malbatan in. And they are with this village, and they are homeowners, and they are with these five families.
Apo Hecî, tiştekî, edetekî, toreke di gund da ku hebe, ku milet li ser hevdu digire. Uncle Haji, is there a thing, a custom, a tradition in the village, where the people hold onto each other (support each other)?
Exlaqek li va kalkê xwe hilanîn, exlaqê me li nav me hilneweşiyan. Û elhemdulila la nav me jî tim dimeşin. We adopted a moral code from this ancestor of ours, our morals did not collapse among us. And praise be to God, it still runs among us constantly.
Exlaq, me pênc exlaq esasî ij (ji) dil hilanîn. Morals, we adopted five fundamental morals from the heart.
Ji kolkê (kalkê) xwe. Wa ji Mistê wa hilanî, eberê me jî ji wa hilanî. From our ancestor. They adopted it from Mist, and our forefathers adopted it from them.
Ber nedan. They did not let go.
Yek reîsî, sal du eyda çêdibin, du eyd. Eyda mezin, eyda piçûk. One leadership, two Eids (holidays) happen per year, two Eids. The big Eid, the small Eid.
Di va da, çiqa malbatê vî gundî hene, giya (giş) dewarê xwe jêkir, qurbanê xwe çêkir, ille sîngê dewarê xwe didan ser sêniyê. In this, however many families are in this village, when they all slaughtered their livestock, made their sacrifice, they would put the brisket of their livestock on the tray.
Ya malê mezin kî xwedan, dan li mezin, malê te mezin hene, ya malê mixtêr rûdiniştin. Whoever owned the big house/was the elder, they gave to the elder, if you have a big house, or they would sit at the Mukhtar's house.
Giya (giş) eyê xwe bi hev ra dikir, î bi hev ra da nokê (nanê) li hev didanîn. Everyone would celebrate together, they would put their bread/food together.
Hev yek meşva (şîret/sohbet) da, ji kalkê xwe da di, li vî gundî. Together in one conversation, stemming from their ancestor, in this village.
Ê diduya, kalkê me berê xaniyê me ax bûn. The second thing, our ancestors formerly, our houses were of earth (mud).
Yekî xaniyekî xwe bigirta, yê kê ax dikir. If someone started [building] their house, the other would make the earth/mud.
Feremere (fer û mere) li meydanê tune bûn. There was no individual struggle in the square (everyone helped).
Çiqo (çiqas) ewî li vî gundî hebûn, tevr-bêrê xwe radikirin, heta xelas nekira nedihatin mal. However much help/people were in this village, they would pick up their pickaxe and shovel, until they finished, they wouldn't come home.
Û esasiye, bîrek rûmanî li deşta me heye wextî bilxura (bi xêra) payîz bû. And basically, there is a Roman well in our plain, when it was the bounty of autumn.
Ev gunda tevda, bi cilê xwe, bi teştê xwe, bi tiştê xwe diçûn... rok (rojek), malekê dikelan, yekê dikuta... Tîng hebû, qedîm bû, wekî ewê noka. This whole village, with their clothes, with their wash- tubs, with their things would go... one day, a family would boil [wheat/produce], one would pound... It was tight/crowded, it was ancient, like those of now.
Li wî derbas bû, ma'serê dimsê dihatin. It passed there, molasses presses would come.
Li ma'serê dims, dîsa giyo (giş) ferê xwe dînan o (didan ser) ma'serê. At the molasses press, again everyone would put their individual effort into the press.
Na beg malekê ne bira. Giyo (giş) dibir. Not just one family, brother. Everyone would take part.
Heta ew ma'sera xelas dibû. Şiktek (şîrketek), şikatek esasî rûmanî li wir heye. Until that press was finished. A company, a basic Roman company (structure) is there.
Barom bibora (boran bibariya) têda nan dixwarin, tiştê xwe didanîn içê (hundir), mehfeze (parastî) bû, lazol şiket heye û mezin e. Even if it rained/stormed, they ate bread in it, put their things inside, it was protected, that structure/cave is still there and it is big.
Xelkê xerîb derava dihat têda rûdinişt yek salê. Strangers coming from outside would sit (live) in it for a year.
Û ji vê derbas bû, me exlaqê din... And passing from this, we have other morals...
Û di dîroka gundê da Molo Dedik, Bilê Dedik, Mehmûdê Dedik hebûn, Molo Bilî Xêlê hebûn. And in the village's history, there were Molo Dedik, Bile Dedik, Mehmûdê Dedik, and Molo Bilî Xêlê.
Molo... Malbatê Kêlê Ûsiv hebûn. Giyayê Pêgirt, Mazaretê Xolgirtin. Molo... there was the family of Kêlê Ûsiv. By the Pêgirt Shrine, the Xolgirt Shrine.
Gune me bi stûyê pêxemberê Xwedê be, em mirî da derbasî nav celana kin. Em mirî da derbas nav celana kin. May our sin be on the Prophet of God's neck [if we lie], may we send the dead into the flames. May we send the dead into the flames.
Zato em haya na li pê rêça wan dimeşin. Ew rêça bav û kalên me mane. So, we are still walking on their path. That path of our forefathers remains.
Elhemdulilah me jî ji bîr nekiriye. Praise be to God, we haven't forgotten either.
Behsa tiştekî kir, tiştekî bala min kişand. Berê gundiyên me hemû, millet bi hev re dixwarin bi hev re... You mentioned something, something caught my attention. Before, all our villagers, the people ate together, together...
...bi hev re dixwarin. ...they ate together.
Te digo wek gundê Zêrê... yanî haya niha, dema cejn tê, xwarineke hemû millet bi hev re xwarina xwe dixwe. You said like in the village of Zêrê... meaning until now, when the holiday comes, it's a meal where all the people eat their food together.
Ma hûn jî hîna li ser rêça wan dimeşin? Hûn hîna xwarinê bi hev re dixwin? Do you still walk on their path? Do you still eat food together?
Wellahî heta bavê Paşo li cem me Mehmed hebû, layê Bilî Xêlê bû. By God, as long as Father Paşo was with us, and Mehmed, who was the son of Bilî Xêlê.
Heta we çaxê jî civata me hebû. Until that time, we had our gathering.
No, we sekinand? No, did you stop it?
Çend salin wefat kiriye, hindik e... em gîhiştinê, me teqsîr kiriye. It's been a few years since he passed away, it's recent... we reached it, but we have been negligent.
Wekî bavê wî... Like his father...
Wekî din em ne tayê wan e. Otherwise, we are not their equals.
Bêje Juwara. Say it, Juwara.
Kalikê me, heta hef Mehmada hey, layê Bilî Xêlê bû. Our grandfather, as long as this Mehmada was there, who was the son of Bilî Xêlê.
Civata me tim, roja her eydê, li mala gundî xwarin çêdibû. Our gathering was always, on every holiday, food was made at a villager's house.
Û millet gî kom dibû... heta navketa wî, bigota şîv bide şivanê roçî, bide naxirciyê roçî... And the people would all gather... even his grandson(?), he would say give dinner to the shepherd, give dinner to the cowherd...
Yanî tim edeta berê di nav me da bû, me helîna bû. Meaning the custom of before was always among us, we had not left it.
Tu dixwazî vegere ev dîsa edeta? Do you want this custom to return again?
Wellahî ez dixwazim vegere û ez destê giya jî maç dikim. By God, I want it to return and I would kiss the hand of everyone.
Jiyê me jî rind e yanî, ez nekanim bêjim ne rind e. Our life is also good, I can't say it's not good.
Jiyê me elhemdulillah rind e û dîsa jî şukir em bi hevdu ra dijîn. Û em şer tinn e. Our life, thank God, is good and again, thanks, we live together. And we have no fights.
Di dîroka me da, kuştin li vî gundî çênebûne. In our history, killings have not happened in this village.
Di dîroka me da, kuştin li vî gundî çênebûye. Bi xêra... esehbana hezkirina hev bû. In our history, killing has not happened in this village. Thanks to... truly it was mutual love.
Bêje Juwara. Say it, Juwara.
Hezkirin ku tune be çênadikir. If there was no love, it wouldn't work.
Tu dixwazî tiştekî dawî bêjî? Do you want to say a final thing?
Xwedê ji te razî be. Û inşallah serketina we ye. May God be pleased with you. And God willing, success is yours.
Bîzni rebbî alemîn kurmanc di dîroka da pişta xwe li dijmin naftilandî, ebeden. With the permission of the Lord of the Worlds, Kurds in history have never turned their back to the enemy, never.
Birînê kurmanc tim ji pêş va ye, ne ji paş va ye. Ne reva ye ji ber şer ra. The Kurd's wound is always from the front, not from the back. There is no fleeing from war.
Spas dikim apê Mele Taha. Thank you, Uncle Mele Taha.
Xwedê ji we razî be. May God be pleased with you.
Xwedê kêmasiyê we ne de. May God not give you any shortcomings.
Xwedê ji te jî razî be. Tu jî hat civata me. May God be pleased with you too. You also came to our gathering.
Bi esbabê we va civata we, me jî hev dît, em bi hevdu ra şîrîn şîrîn rûniştin. Because of you, your gathering, we also saw each other, we sat together sweetly.
Hev nasîn. Kê sêkî xerîb tenê. Got to know each other. Whoever comes as a stranger [is welcome].
Spas dikim, xwedê ji te razî be. Thank you, may God be pleased with you.
Gundê Jela girêdayî navçeya Rajo ya kantona Efrînê, 5 kîlometrî li bakurê Rojhilatê bajarê Rajo... Jela Village is attached to the Rajo district of Afrin Canton, 5 kilometers to the northeast of the town of Rajo...
...û 45 kîlometrî li bakurê bajarê Efrînê dikeve. ...and lies 45 kilometers north of the city of Afrin.
Berê gundê Jela li devereke bi navê Sergirekê bû. Û nêzî 5 kîlometrî li Rojhilatê gund e. Formerly, Jela village was in an area called Sergirekê. And it is about 5 kilometers east of the [current] village.
Û ta niha hîn gorên kevin jî lê hene. And until now, there are still old graves there.
Du bira bi navê Edem û Jelî hebûn. Edem gundê Edema ava kir û Jelî jî li cihê gundê Jela niştecî bû û gund ava kir. There were two brothers named Edem and Jelî. Edem built Edema village, and Jelî settled in the place of Jela village and built the village.
Ev tê wateya ku navê gundê Jela ji navê avakerê gund, ango Jelî hatiye. This implies that the name of Jela village comes from the name of the village founder, meaning Jelî.
Dîroka avakirina gund nayê zanîn kengî ye, lê diyare ev gund kevnar e. The history of the village's founding is not known when it was, but it is clear that this village is ancient.
Di gundê Jela da em digerin, niha em derbasî malekî bûn, mala Mehmedê Hisênê Zêbê bûn. We are touring in Jela village, now we have entered a house, the house of Mehmedê Hisênê Zêbê.
Dayîk jî hatin vira, em spasiya dayîkê dikin. Xwestin leçera ji me ra çêbikin. The mother also came here, we thank the mother. She wanted to make jam (leçer) for us.
Niha dema kêraza ye jî di dawiyê da. Now the cherry season is also at its end.
Ê xwestin leçera kêraza çêbikin û gelek leçer jî çêkirine. Emê niha bi hev ra nas bikin. Dayê merheba Juwara. So they wanted to make cherry jam and they have made a lot of jam. We will now learn together. Mother, hello Juwara.
Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome.
Sax bî. Dayê niha wek behsa leçer kir... wekû emê leçer çêkin, leçera kêraza çêkin. Be healthy. Mother, you mentioned jam... like we will make jam, make cherry jam.
Erê, emê çêkin. Yes, we will make it.
Ê kêraz li ba we gelek hene yanî? So are there many cherries with you?
Lêê, cehama gi, baxçê kêraza ne. Pirrin, ne cehama me çandine. Pirrin. Oh, the whole community, they are cherry orchards. Many, our community planted them. Many.
Ê ev gundê derdorê we, wek kîjan gunda hene kêrazên wane? So these surrounding villages of yours, which villages have their cherries?
Li paş gunda ne. Gundê Jela... They are in the back villages. Jela village...
Erê, ev gundê derdorê we jî hene? Yes, these surrounding villages of yours also have them?
Lê hene lê. Li Gêla hene, Geylê Qonqilê hene. Yes they have. In Gêla they have, Geylê Qonqilê have.
Xolalka ma heye? Does Xolalka have?
Xolalka... li Geylê Meydan çandine, lê gundî berê li kolqerabê lê çandine. Xolalka... in Geylê Meydan they planted, but the villagers before planted in Kolqerabê.
Eferim. Derdorê we hene? Bravo. Do your surroundings have?
Derdorê me nîne hew no. Dûrin ewanî. Î me jî li Gêla hene, Geylê Qonqilê hene. Our surroundings don't, just these. Ours are in Gêla, Geylê Qonqilê.
Li deştê hino çandine hene. Wişta... In the plain some have planted. That's it...
Yanî her malekî kêrazê wan hene, deriyê wan hene? Meaning every house has their cherries, at their door?
Ê giyê noka hene. Berê besî Molo Simê Çîl hebûn, î Mehmedê Hisên hebûn. Yes, everyone now has. Before only Molo Simê Çîl had, Mehmedê Hisên had.
Î noka giya çandine, î giya hene. Now everyone has planted, everyone has.
Ê dayê niha sal bi sal hûn leçera çêdikin? So Mother, do you make jam year by year?
Erê, lê sal bi sal em çêdikin. Yes, yes year by year we make it.
Sal bi sal? Year by year?
Erê. Yes.
Niha jî dawiya kêraza ye, de di millet giya berhev kirî ne? Now is the end of cherries, have all the people harvested?
Ê lê. Erê. Giyo berhev kiriye. Emê herrin, hinek xo hûnin, emê ya ban hevra harikin, emê hûnin çêkin. Û şta emê çêkin. Yes, yes. Everyone harvested. We will go, some... we will call each other to help, we will make it. And so we will make it.
Ka bo behsa leçerê ke. Ka ew leçer çawa çêdikin? Niha ez dibînim, dendika destpêkê jê dertînin. Tell us about the jam. How do you make that jam? Now I see, first you take out the pit.
Erê. Emê dendika lê derxin. Me noka havno dendik lê derxistin. Yes. We take out the pit. We took out the pit like this.
Û emê şekir lê kêlekê me, emê şekirê xwe hano pê werkin. And we put sugar next to us, we pour our sugar like this.
Ê kêraz berê şîrîn e. Hûn şekir jî dixin nav? But cherries are already sweet. Do you put sugar in too?
Ê, çimkî şekir nekefe yî, ê tirş bibî. Emê hano şekir pê werkin, emê li hev xin. Yes, because if sugar doesn't fall in, it will be sour. We pour sugar like this, we mix it.
Ê hano nîv saetkî, nîv saetkî bisikinin. Û ê av bide, emê paşê dînin ser êr, ê bikele. And like this for half an hour, half an hour we let it stand. And it will give water, then we put it on the fire, it will boil.
Çiqas wisa li ser agir dimîne? How long does it stay on the fire like that?
Ê nîv saetkî dimîne ser êgir. It stays on the fire for half an hour.
Nîv saet? Half an hour?
Erê. Paşê wextê em kê dînin, emê kevçik milih lêmûnî xwi jî têkin. Û emê dînin. Yes. Then when we take it off, we put a spoonful of our lemon salt. And we take it off.
Ê sar bibe, emê di qetremîzê xwe kin. When it cools, we put it in our jars.
Wîn tiştekî başqe, şêkir tişt dixin nav, lê bes şêkir tenê? Do you put anything else, sugar, things in, but just sugar only?
No, bes şêkir tenê. Wextê em kê dînin, emê kevçik milih lêmûnî xwe têkin û emê dînin. No, just sugar only. When we take it off, we put our spoonful of lemon salt and we take it off.
Kalk... didê bî milih lêmûnî wey. Look... it gives the scent of lemon salt.
Yanî ew zehmetiya tenê ye? So that is the only difficulty?
No no no no. Lê heyrandina xwe tenê ye. Ha. Paqibîniya xwe tê tenê ye. Paqibîn tê tenê ye. No no no no. Just its pitting is the only thing. Ha. Its cleaning is the only thing. Cleaning is the only thing.
Yanî rehet e. Rûniştî û te li pêşiya xwe çêdike. Kû ve rehet e yanî. Meaning it is easy. You sit and you make it in front of you. It's very easy.
Car caran hûn wisa jinên gund tên ba hev, rûniştin hevdu alîkar dibin? Sometimes do you women of the village come together, sit and help each other?
Erê, em bûş bin... lê em bûş bin, em ban hev dikin, bi hevra harî dikin. Gê karî xwe hebe, em bitanê çêdikin. Yes, if we have a lot... yes if we have a lot, we call each other, we help each other together. If one has work, we make it alone.
Saetxweş. Good health.
Spas. Thanks.
Tiştê pir baş e. Ka te çi çêkirî ye? Ji mi ra noka behsa leçera bikî te... behsa gelek leçer kir. Te û dayîka va. It's a very good thing. What have you made? Tell me now about jam... you mentioned many jams. You and the mothers.
Wekû berê da, em leçera çêdikin. Wekû kîjan leçer hûn çêdikin? Like before, we make jams. Which jams do you make?
Em leçerê sêva çêdikin. Em î buhîka çêdikin. We make apple jam. We make plum jam.
Em î hêjîra çêdikin. Em î mişmişa çêdikin. We make fig jam. We make apricot jam.
Wextê çi wey tê, em wî leçerî çêdikin? When the time comes, we make that jam?
Î payîzê... em î tirî çêdikin. Wextê xwe tê. Em î sêva çêdikin. Em î buhîka çêdikin. In autumn... we make grape jam. When its time comes. We make apple. We make plum.
Em î hêjîra çêdikin. Î mişmişa çêdikin. Şta çi... yanî çi... heyam dikin leçer. Em çêdikin. We make fig. We make apricot. Like what... meaning what... season makes jam. We make it.
Hêjîr jî hene? Are there figs too?
Lê hêjîr jî hene, tirî jî heye. Şukir cema gi tişt heye. Yes figs too, grapes too. Thanks, the whole community has everything.
Û buhîk jî hene. Mişmiş jî hene. Wextê çawat, em wî çêdikin. And plums too. Apricots too. Whatever time it is, we make that.
Yanî mûsimê çi tê? Meaning whatever season comes?
Lê mûsimê çi hat, em çêdikin. Yes whatever season came, we make it.
Ê de bacan, ma berê hişk dikirin, ma de hiltînin zivistanê, ma kundir hişk dikirin. So eggplants, we dried them before, we keep them for winter, we dried pumpkins.
Ma kundirî mîs dikirin, dolme... yanî em bi dolme kin, zivistanê bixwin. We made pumpkin jam, dolma... meaning we make dolma, eat in winter.
Î dimsi razaz çêdikin. Yanî şta tiştê wano, berê me hiltîna. We make grape molasses. Meaning things like that, before we kept.
Me bulxur dikeland. Me genim dihişt. Me hiltîna dikir, zexîre dikir çewala. We boiled bulgur. We left wheat. We kept it, stored in sacks.
Me dibir aş, diherandin. Li meydonê, li... daru diherandin... yanî êrt. Me nan dikir. We took to the mill, ground it. In the square, on... ground by stone... meaning flour. We made bread.
Me nan dikir. Dewar hebûn, mî hebûn, bizin hebûn, manga hebûn. Şta. Gi tişt berê hebûn. Wano. We made bread. There were cattle, sheep, goats, cows. Like that. Everything existed before. Like that.
No, ew tişta nema ye te behsê dikir? No, do those things not exist anymore that you mentioned?
No, noka nema ye. Tiştê wano tinnaye noka. Manga tinnaye. No, now they don't exist. Things like that don't exist now. Cows don't exist.
Tenê noka leçera çêdikin. Only now you make jam.
Em noka bes leçera çêdikin. Û şta em yek carê nîn dikin. Yanî rûn çêdikin, yanî hişk çêdikin. We now only make jam. And like that we do a little... meaning we make butter, meaning we make dry things.
Şîrînî ye. It's a sweet.
Erê, şîrînî em çêdikin. Hawo. Yes, sweet we make. Like that.
We'ydim, korê berê namoyî or... berê îş pir bû de. Ne wekî noka ye. Noka millet gi kêfa xwe dike. Rind e. Jiyana noka rind e. I promise, the son of before won't... before work was a lot. Not like now. Now the people all enjoy themselves. It's good. Life now is good.
Wehsa ye? Is it like that?
Lê. Jinên noka, weleh em bi qeçik bûn, em li peyê bûn, em li şixrê bûn, em car caran bûn. Yes. Women of now, by God we were with kids, we were on foot, we were at work, we were sometimes...
Me sed kar dikir. Me diçû av li bîrê dianî. Î me barê tim û nîm wole çêdikir. We did a hundred jobs. We went and brought water from the well. We made the load always and half...
Em kê şta çi bixwin. Wekî noka bi kirrînê tinnabûn, kîlo tinnabûn. We would eat whatever. Like now with buying didn't exist, kilos didn't exist.
Me bîstan diçand, me diki... şta dixwar. Me neçandibûya me nedixwar. We planted gardens, we did... whatever we ate. If we hadn't planted, we wouldn't have eaten.
Av ji kû dianî? Where did you bring water from?
Me av li bîrê dianî deştê. Heyf me siwaro. Lê. Me teneke dikirin çi şabako. We brought water from the well in the plain. Woe to us riders. Yes. We put cans inside the mesh bags.
Û bacokê... bacokê jî dûl derxistin. Hinî lastîkî. Me bi kêlekî kero xistana. And the containers... the containers also had handles. Like rubber ones. We put them on the donkey's side.
Emê bîçana, me teşo bikira banî na, li mal dîdinan, şta pî kinş dişiştin pî... We would bring, we would put in the tub like that, put at home, like that wash feet...
Zewerê... hinde ax bûn. Şiştinî hinde darû pir tinnabûn. Me hinde paş dikirin. Me av diraşand û me paş dikir. Me ne... The ground... was earth. Washing like that wasn't much. We cleaned like that. We sprinkled water and cleaned. We didn't...
Tu xwa jî gundê Jela yî? Are you also from Jela village?
No, ez ji Xolalka me. No, I am from Xolalka.
Tu ji Xolalka yî? You are from Xolalka?
Erê. Ez bûkê Jela me. Yes. I am a bride of Jela.
Ez ji Xolalka me. Ez Jela me. I am from Xolalka. I am [now] Jela.
De se we sax be. May your head be healthy.
Tu jî sax bî. You be healthy too.
Em ê sefarekê li cem te. We are making a visit to you.
Ya, ser çava. Oh, you are welcome.
No, hevîr tiştekî wisa hazir bûye? So, is the dough or something like that ready?
Ewa. Yes.
Wesata, da, jînê tê da kar da, ka îne? In that case, come on, wife, get to work, bring it.
Ka bibîne dest pê bike. Let's see, get started.
Bîne? Bring it?
Bîne, emê li vê postê danîn, emê qalik bikin. Bring it, we will put it on this board, we will roll it out.
Emê têxin nav vê sêlê, emê deynin serê, bikelînin. We will put it inside this griddle, we will place it on top, and cook it.
Te got nîv saetê ne? Piştî wî zatê diqede? You said half an hour, right? After that, it is finished?
Belê, erê. Nîv saetê, sêlê deynin serê, bikelînin, emê dînin. Yes, indeed. Half an hour, we place the griddle on it, cook it, and take it off.
Piştî wî emê sor dikin, dixwin. After that, we brown it and eat it.
Lê, ê sor bibe û emê qehremiyê zê kin. Yes, let it brown and we will make it crispy/delicious.
Temam. Ka kerem kin çawa çêdikin. Okay. Please, show us how you make it.
Gundê Cela di quntara çiyayê Terebêlê da ye. The village of Cela is located at the foot of Mount Terebel.
û berê xwe li ber deşta Camiye, li aliyê başûrê gund e. And it faces the Camiye plain, located on the south side of the village.
Li bakurê gund, geliyek kûr ê kû têda ziyareta Kuhle heye û gundê Bilîlko. To the north of the village, there is a deep valley containing the Kuhle shrine and the village of Bililko.
Li rojhilat erdê qişle, gundê Xilalka û Cirka. To the east is the Qishle land, the villages of Xilalka and Jirka.
Li başûr çiyayê Bilêl, gundê Alemdara û Çaqmaqa biçûk. To the south are Mount Bilel, and the villages of Alemdara and Little Chaqmaqa.
Û li rojavayê gund, Çaqmaqa Mezin û çiyayê Keleş dikevin. And to the west of the village lie Big Chaqmaqa and Mount Kelesh.
Bîrek kevnar li başûrê gund heye. There is an ancient well to the south of the village.
Gundiyên Cela û Bilîlko av vexwarinê jê dibirin. The villagers of Cela and Bililko used to fetch drinking water from it.
Û şivanan jî pezê xwe li ber av didan. And shepherds used to water their flocks there.
Li deşta Camiye ku li başûrê gunde, gelek bîrên avê hene. In the Camiye plain south of the village, there are many water wells.
Berê aşek li vê deverê hebû û ta niha jî heye. Formerly, there was a mill in this area, and it still exists today.
Xelkê gundê Cela, Çaqmaqa, Çençeliya, Alemdara, Kêla û Huscemala ardê biteraktorê ji wir peyda dikin. The people of Cela, Chaqmaqa, Chencheliya, Alemdara, Kela, and Husjemala villages procure flour by tractor from there.
No, em kişiyan serê vê çiyayî. So, we have climbed to the top of this mountain.
Eyb nîn be, em çi vê derê dibêjin, bra? No offense, but what do they call this place, brother?
Em vê derê dibêjin Sırta Taqa Bê. We call this place the Ridge of the Wind Arch.
Ev dera, vê derê dibêjin Taqa Bê. This place, they call this place the Wind Arch.
Bayê zivistanê ji vê derê tin buxar tê der. In winter, only steam comes out of here.
Buxar. Steam.
Çiqas bilindbûna vê heye? How much altitude/height does this have?
Ji gund heta vê derê kîlometrek heye. From the village to here, it is about one kilometer.
Kîlometrek? One kilometer?
Heye. Yes.
Kîlometrek, ha? One kilometer, huh?
Ka em ji te re jî pirs bikin. Let us ask you as well.
Vê derê dibêjin Taqa Bê. They call this place the Wind Arch.
Bi rastî jî zehmet bû, em hinekî maşîn jî dûr bû. Truly it was difficult, and the car was a bit far away.
Eva ye. This is it.
Eva, erê. This is it, yes.
Ewa vê derê dibêjin Taqa Bê. They call this place the Wind Arch.
Heva ji berê da, pir kevn e. This is from long ago, it is very ancient.
Kalikê me digotin, eno... ev taqa... Our grandfathers used to say, that... this arch...
Gava befr dikir, diçû... bîr li deştê hebûn. When it snowed, it went... there were wells in the plain.
Diçûn sada dikirin. They used to go and take shelter (for the animals).
Xêr niyo li vê dikirin Taqa Bê. For that reason, they called it the Wind Arch.
Yanî, zivistanê bayê germ tê. Bê didê. Meaning, in winter, warm air comes out. Wind blows.
Û havînê bayê hênik didê. And in summer, cool air blows.
Ê li ser vê, lê neşin, Taqa Bê ye. So on top of this, they sit, it is the Wind Arch.
Çiqas kûrbûna xwe heye? How much depth does it have?
Kûrbûna xwe kes negihîştiye binê. As for its depth, no one has reached the bottom.
Yanî, kolkê me digotin, we berdanê, ji nîvê da negihîştinê, nîvê vegerandin. Negihîştin binê. Meaning, our ancestors said they released (dogs/objects) into it, they didn't reach halfway, they returned halfway. They didn't reach the bottom.
Ya di kû derê derdikeve? And where does it come out?
Bîrek deştê heye, bes îşareta xwe li wira ye. There is a well in the plain, but its sign connects there.
Yanî girêdayî deştê ye? So it is connected to the plain?
Girêdayî deştê ye. It is connected to the plain.
Eno gava vêra berdidin, diçûn... gava li bîrê re derdiket. Bîr jî pir kevn e. Ew jî bîr Romaniyan e. Meaning when they dropped (something) here, it went... when it came out through the well. The well is also very ancient. It is a Roman well.
Ew bîra li ku dikeve? Where is that well located?
Jî... deşta gund e. Also... in the village plain.
Deşta Camiye? The Camiye Plain?
Na. No.
Ew jî bîr e... vêra dibêjin... hew dera bi navê vê bîrê tê naskirin. That is also a well... they call this... that area is known by the name of this well.
Yekî ku berdayê, li wira derket? So one that was dropped here, came out there?
Li wira derdikeve. It comes out there.
Kê wekî, kê ceriband? Who, for example, who tested it?
Kolkê me wa ceribandibûn. Our ancestors tested it like that.
Ma niha dengê avê jê tê? Does the sound of water come from it now?
Dengê avê... dengê hewa û tişta jê tê. Sound of water... sound of air and things come from it.
Meena xwa av tê heye. It means there is water in it.
Av livir heye? Is there water here?
Av livir heye. There is water here.
Zivistanê... hana dûmanekî gewr lê radibe û berf... li wexta berf lê dike, derdora vê taqê berf nagire. In winter... a gray smoke/steam rises from it and snow... when it snows, the snow does not stick around this arch.
Û... bayê germ tê. It melts.
Û... bayê germ tê. And... warm air comes out.
Na, em tiştekî berdinê, deng tê lê nayê? Now, if we drop something in it, does sound come or not?
Deng tê. Berî vê... ji berî vê çend salan da... Sound comes. Before this... several years before this...
Wexta kevir ça dikirinê, ê deng da... When the rock made noise... it gave a sound...
Yanî, teqrîben du sê deqa berdewam dida. Meaning, it continued for approximately two or three minutes.
Bes niha hevkî kevir tê wer kirine... dibe ku jêr va tije kiribe. But now some stones have been thrown in... maybe it has been filled up from the bottom.
Ka yekî biçûk bidim min. Let me have a small one.
Dernayê ne? It doesn't come out, right?
Derê, dengê xwe yavaş dibe. Heke kûr be, dengê ginde yavaş dibe. Ê na jêr e. It does, the sound becomes faint. If it is deep, the sound of the rolling stone becomes faint. It is far down.
Spas bra. Saetên we xweş. Thank you, brother. Have a good time.
Ê ji we ra jî xweş, û spas ji bo we ra jî, û ji bernameya Waar TV ra jî. A good time to you too, and thanks to you, and to the Waar TV program.
Spas dikim bra. Thank you, brother.
Du şikeft li gund hene. There are two caves in the village.
Yek şivan gelekî fireh û mezin e, bi navê şikefta Topelê tê hat naskirin. One is a shepherds' cave, very wide and large, known by the name of Topel Cave.
Berê xelkê gund ji bo niştecihbûnê bikar dianîn. Piştra ji bo pez bikar dihat. Formerly, the villagers used it for habitation. Later, it was used for sheep.
Lê niha, vala maye. But now, it remains empty.
Bîra Qilabel li rojhilatê gund dikeve. The Qilabel well is located east of the village.
Tê gotin ku ew taqa volkanekî kevnarî pir kûr... û kûrahiya wî nayê zanîn çiqas e. It is said that the arch is a very deep ancient volcano... and its depth is unknown.
Şûnwarekî kevnar bi navê Erdê Qoş li rojhilatê gund e. An ancient site named Erdê Qoş (The Land of the Fort) is east of the village.
Û diyar dibe ku ew cîhê bagerokekî kevnar û diserda berê da ye. And it appears that it is the site of an ancient threshing floor and from the past.
Çiyayê ku gund hemêz kiriye, bi kevirên şîn e. The mountain that embraces the village is made of blue stones.
Ku ew kevirên saxin û ji bo avahiyan gelekî baş û guncaw in. Those stones are solid and are very good and suitable for construction.
Mamosta Ahmed, merheba ji te ra. Teacher Ahmed, hello to you.
Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome.
Navê min, Ahmed Dawud e, mûleqeb Ustad Çîlo me. My name is Ahmed Dawud, nicknamed Master Chilo.
Way ser çavê min. Oh, upon my eyes (welcome).
Sax bî. Be healthy.
Erê, gund hemû behsa te dikin, digotin Çîlo... te digotin Mamosta Ahmed. Yes, the whole village talks about you, they said Chilo... you said Teacher Ahmed.
Erê, erê, naskirî me, Ustad Çîlo naskirî ye. Yes, yes, I am known, Master Chilo is known.
Mamosta, gund hemû behsa te kir. Gotin tu mamostekî kevn e. Teacher, the whole village talked about you. They said you are an old teacher.
Tu çend sal mamosta ye? How many years were you a teacher?
Ez di pencî û yeka da... mamosta, ahalî bûm, di şêst û yeka da bûm... bûm mamostê nizamî heta heştê û çara. In '51... I was a teacher, a local (uncertified) one, in '61... I became a regular (certified) teacher until '84.
Heta heştê û çara, min zarokên vê mantiqê tedrîs kirin. Until '84, I taught the children of this region.
Te li kû derê dixwend? Where did you study?
Min... şehadeya min, milcem Mûsilê... dudiya xwend. Me... my certificate, gathered in Mosul... I studied second (grade/level).
Ne ya siftê, ya dudiya, vêra digotin Ustad Hemze ji Xolarka. Not the first one, the second one, they called him Teacher Hamza from Xolarka.
Li wêr min temam kir, a çûm cem mamosteyê sisê, Xelîl Îsmaîl. I finished there, then I went to the third teacher, Khalil Ismail.
Xelîl Îsmaîl, hewa jî li Xolarka bû. Khalil Ismail, he was also in Xolarka.
Piştî wî, ez tesqîf kirim, ez gihiştim sefê pênca. After him, I was educated, I reached the fifth grade.
Wê çaxê sefê pênca, li derikê tune bû. At that time, the fifth grade did not exist out here.
Li kû hebû? Li Bilbilê hebû, li Reco hebû, li Cindirêsê hebû. Where did it exist? It existed in Bilbile, in Rajo, in Jindires.
Bes sê mekteb îbtîdayî hebûn, û li Efrînê hebû. Only three primary schools existed, and one in Afrin.
Ez çûm Bilbilê min xwend, min şehadeya îbtîdayî bir, sala pencî û yeka. I went to Bilbile and studied, I got the primary certificate, in the year '51.
Min... em çûn fehsê, li Efrînê merkeza fehs, li Efrînê bû. I... we went for the exam, in Afrin, the exam center was in Afrin.
Ez û hevalên xwe, sefê pênca, pirk hebûn. Me and my friends, fifth grade, there were many of us.
Yanî li vê derê, heta derikê hebûn. Me li wê derê şehadeya îbtîdayî bir bi hevra. I mean in this area, up to outside. We got the primary certificate there together.
Belê. Teacher.
Belê. Yes.
Dema tu bûyî mamosta. When you became a teacher.
Di wê demê da, kî ji berî te mamosta bû? Û kî bi te ra bû mamosta? Di wê demê da kî hebûn? At that time, who was a teacher before you? And who became a teacher with you? Who was there at that time?
Temam. Ustad Reşîd Hemo, mamosteyê siftê ye. Okay. Teacher Rashid Hamo is the first teacher.
Min, ez çûçik bûm, min li ber nexwend. Me, I was small, I didn't study under him.
Du ra, Hemze Hisên, ji Xolarka bû milcemê wî xwed. After that, Hamza Hussein, from Xolarka, had his gathering (school).
Du ra, Xelîl Îsmaîl, xwendina dal Xolarka, min li ber wî xwend. After that, Khalil Ismail, teaching in Xolarka, I studied under him.
Şehadeya xwe heta nîvçara... My certificate until midway...
Te li kû derê temam kir? Where did you finish?
Merhele min li Xolarka temam kir. I finished the stage (level) in Xolarka.
Ê pênca, min çûyî Bilbilê min tehsîl kir. Şehadeya îbtîdayî sala siftê, em necehîn. The fifth (grade), I went to Bilbile and acquired it. The primary certificate, the first year, we passed.
Û hevalên min jî, tu dixwazê, ez hewa jî navkêş... şehade birin wê çaxê, tengiya me... And my friends too, if you want, I can list them too... (who) got the certificate at that time, in our hardship...
Tu dixwazî navên wan jî... You want (to say) their names too...
Kerem ke. Please.
Ha, Mihemmedê Misto, ji Sêwiya. Yes, Mohammed Misto, from Sewiya.
Îbiş Zîbar, li Mehmila. Ibish Zibar, from Mehmila.
Doktor Ahmed... Doktor Ahmed Resûl, ji Obrezê. Doctor Ahmed... Doctor Ahmed Rasul, from Obreze.
Hawnakî hevalên me bûn. Those were our friends.
Û... Qamber Sefer, ji Kurzêlê. And... Qanbar Safar, from Kurzele.
Elî Şêxo... Mihemmed Elî Şêxo, ji Alemdara. Ali Sheikho... Mohammed Ali Sheikho, from Alemdara.
Em havna, deh salekê, em derketin, me şehadeya îbtîdayî bi hevra bir. Us, in a decade (cohort), we graduated, we got the primary certificate together.
Ê berî we kî bûn? So who was before you?
Berî me... Before us...
Berî me, estaz... şehadeya ê siftê em bûn yanî. Before us, teacher... we were the first certificate (holders), meaning.
Ê siftê em bûn. We were the first ones.
Mamosta, Necah hebû, xuşka wî hebû? Teacher, was Najah there, was his sister there?
Yanî di pêncî û yeka da, te dest bi karê mamostetiyê kir? Meaning in '51, you started the work of teaching?
Erê wa, pêncî û yeka da heta... Yes, like that, in '51 until...
Şêst û pênc salna? Sixty-five years (ago)?
Mmh. Şêst û pênc salna, ev tarîxa min tedrîs kir, un... pîr a bûm. Mmh. Sixty-five years ago, this history I taught, until... I became old.
Di wê demê da dibistan hebûn? Were there schools at that time?
Dibistan tune bûn. There were no schools.
Dibistan tune bûn. Heta zimanê Kurdî, memnû' bû kes bi zimanê Kurdî deng ke. There were no schools. Even the Kurdish language, it was forbidden for anyone to speak in Kurdish.
Qedexe bû? It was forbidden?
Lêêê. Yes/Indeed.
Hatin, em xlas bûn. Ez deh û çar salî bûm. Min şehadeya îbtîdayî bir. They came, we finished. I was fourteen years old. I got the primary certificate.
Hatin mekteb danî, Qaîd Fesîl... vê çaxê Qaîd Şurte re digotin Qaîd Fesîl. They came and established a school, the Platoon Leader... at that time they called the Police Chief the Platoon Leader.
Hatin hemberim, got... tehdîd dan min. Go mekteb tune, te te'zîb kir. Reşîd Hemo gotî çi. They came against me, said... threatened me. Said there is no school, you incited (people). Rashid Hamo said what (happened).
Dizane? Min jî got, Reşîd Hemo tişt negot. Minaseba ku 'eydê bû, ma hat... 'eyda xwe kir yanî. You know? I also said, Rashid Hamo didn't say anything. Since it was the holiday (Eid), he came... he celebrated his holiday, meaning.
Bes lê, 'ilmen, eno Reşîd Hemo... nuqta Kurdî bi... îlan kir û nasikandin da. Mantiqe jî û ahalî jî. But, for your information, that Rashid Hamo... declared the Kurdish point (issue)... and made it known. To the region and the people too.
Red bî û çend eq roj hat girtin, te'zîb bî û hat berdan. It was rejected and he was detained for some days, tortured, and released.
Em jî bi vê rêkê da, em... we'yê el qewmî, wê çaxê da me ra çêbû. We also, on this path, we... the national consciousness, was created for us at that time.
Sala pêncî û yeka. In the year fifty-one.
Hingê min dixwast ku zimanê me hebe. At that time, I wanted our language to exist.
Û heştê û çara da em xwastin, go hun çi dixwazin? And in '84 we asked, they said "What do you want?"
Me go em zimanekî Kurdî, em Kurd in, em birayê Ereb in. We said a Kurdish language, we are Kurds, we are brothers of Arabs.
Ereb û Kurd em birayê hev in. Arabs and Kurds, we are brothers to each other.
Ma zimanê we heye ma gerekê zimanê me jî hebe. If you have a language, we should have a language too.
Go emê zimanê te kîda bikujin? Me go em ne dijmin in. Heta tu zimanê me... He said "In whom will we kill your language?" We said we are not enemies. Until you [accept] our language...
Ne em xwekuj in, ne em çete ne, ne em sîlah me rane kirîye. We are not suicide bombers, we are not gangs, we haven't raised weapons.
Em birayê xwe Ereb ra bi edeb daxwaz dikin. We ask our Arab brothers with politeness.
Em dixwazin heqê me bidin, zimanê me bidin. We want you to give us our rights, give us our language.
Em vî tiştî dixwazin, şerê me tune ye bawerke. We want this thing, we have no war, believe it.
Hingê ne zimanî... çar milyan Kurd me go... hingê... sed kîda? Back then not language... four million Kurds we said... back then... in a hundred?
Bikujine kes jî wê pirsneke? Bes em ne mucrim in, me tişt nekiriye yanî. Kill them and no one will ask? But we are not criminals, we haven't done anything.
Wê çaxê gotin herê, em waz hatin, em mualim bûn. Wê çaxê gotin herin, ma rûniştin. At that time they said go, we gave up, we were teachers. At that time they said go, we sat down.
Bes xwîna me têne. But our blood boils.
Mamoste, dema te dest bi karê xwe kirî, te li kuderê destpêkir? Mamoste te dikir? Teacher, when you started your work, where did you start? Were you teaching?
Gundê Celamê destpêkir. I started in Jalama village.
Te li kuderê te zokur... zarok fêrdikirin? Where were you teaching the children?
Bi rastî, di odê da, zivistanê xwandina dan... zivistanê. Honestly, in the room, in winter they studied... in winter.
Û havînê jî li bin darê... darê reş, deşta hey... bin wê darê me xwandina dida. Heşt salan. And in summer under the tree... the black tree, the Hey plain... under that tree I gave lessons. For eight years.
Bes zarokên gundê tenê dihatin yan gundê dîş dihatin? Did only the village children come or did other villages come too?
Na, piştek... Çeqmaqê dihat, Gundê Bilêlê ku dihat... No, a support... Chaqmaq came, Bilel village came...
Heta xuralkê jî mamostê xwe tune bûn dihatin, Alemdara, Çençîlya, Çeqmaqê Çûçik... Even Khuralke didn't have teachers so they came, Alemdara, Chenchilya, Small Chaqmaq...
Hewna... gund... heta Qûta... ji ber ku mualim tune bûn, xwandevan tune bûn. Heta Qûta qicik dihatin. Those... villages... even Quta... because there were no teachers, no students. Even from Quta children came.
Zarokên... vê gundê hemî dihatin ba te te perwerde dikirin? Did all the children of this village come to you, did you educate them?
Erê min tesqîf dikirin, bi zimanê Erebî. Zimanê Kurdî, eûzubîllah, tune bû. Yes, I educated them, in the Arabic language. Kurdish language, God forbid, didn't exist [was forbidden].
Zimanê Kurdî wê çaxê tune bû. Kurdish language didn't exist at that time.
Di wê demê da te... te bicarekî nekanî bi Kurdî ew zarok fêr bikirana? At that time... were you not able to teach those children in Kurdish at all?
Na na na, ebeden tune bû. Zimanê Kurdî memnûh bû. Bes me dize... qicik xwendina... me berdalimandina bi dizî. No no no, never. Kurdish language was forbidden. But we secretly... child reading... we taught them secretly.
Te bi dizî fêr dikir? You taught secretly?
Mamoste di wê demê da temenê te çend bû? Yes.
Mamoste di wê demê da temenê te çend bû? Teacher, at that time how old were you?
Temenê min... pêncî û heşta, ezê... xort bûm. My age... in '58, I was... a young man.
Tu serbixwe bûyî? Were you independent?
Ser mesûliyeta xwe bûm. Ser hesaba xwe... me qicik xwandina didan. I was on my own responsibility. On my own account... I gave children lessons.
Te zarok fêrdikirin? You taught children?
Erê min zarok... va zarokê bê mentîqê, giş min tesqîf kiran, bi zimanê Erebî. Yes I... children... these uneducated children, I educated them all, in Arabic language.
Te gotina min, bi edebê, bi exlaqê, bi nîzamê, bi misyaliyetê, bi hezkirinê, bi her nahiyek însaniyet têda bilind dibê. You know, with politeness, with morals, with order, with responsibility, with love, with every aspect where humanity rises.
Giş wa kir heta noka ev hedefa min e. Umrê min heştê... ez gehiştime heştê... ev nîzama min e, ev teucîha min e, ev karê min e. I did all that, until now this is my goal. My age is eighty... I have reached eighty... this is my order, this is my direction, this is my work.
Ez naxwazim ay xîlaf çêbibe, ne mabeyna cîrana da, ne mabeyna taqima da, ne mabeyna eşîra da, ne mabeyna Kurd û... Kurd, çar perçe Kurdistanê da. I don't want any conflict to happen, not between neighbors, not between groups, not between tribes, not between Kurds and... Kurds, in the four parts of Kurdistan.
Mamoste, niha te dît em gehiştin azadiya xwe, niha dibistanê me vebûne, mamosteyê me çêbûne, zarokê me bi zimanê xwe diaxifin... Teacher, now you see we reached our freedom, now our schools have opened, our teachers have appeared, our children speak in their own language...
Aaa, kêf dikim! Aaa, I enjoy it!
Tu çi dibêjî niha? Ev tiştê niha tu dibînî? What do you say now? This thing you see now?
Aaa, kêf dikim. Û em dixwazin ji vê mestir em çêbibin, ji vê bilindtir em çêbibin. Aaa, I enjoy it. And we want to become bigger than this, higher than this.
Ku tarîxa ke ibtîdayî em zanin, gerek em tarîxek cami'î giyanin bi zimanê xwe. That the history which is elementary we know, we must reach a university history in our own language.
Erê niha camî'a jî vebûye. Yes, now the university has opened too.
Erê. Yes.
Cami'a jî li Efrînê vebûye. The university has opened in Afrin too.
Ê em pîrozbahî dikin. Eh, we congratulate it.
Cami'a, em pîrozbahî dikin. University, we congratulate it.
Erê. Yes.
Niha dema tu dibînî dibistanek vebûye, ev tiştek hesret di dilê we da mabû? Now when you see a school has opened, was this a longing left in your heart?
Em di zulm û zorê bin destan da, em mezin bûn, û ev karê me bû, me nekin... me pê nekinî... dijmin ji me qewîtir bû. We grew up under oppression and force, and this was our work, we couldn't... we couldn't do it... the enemy was stronger than us.
Û niha? Tu çi dibînî? And now? What do you see?
Noka na... her zimanê Kurdî, ku çi qasî bilind bibe, di merheleyekê da, heta merheleya cami'a. Now no... every Kurdish language [step], however high it goes, in a stage, until the university stage.
Her merhelek şabînekê dide me. Her merhelek şîarekê dide me. Every stage gives us a youth. Every stage gives us a slogan.
Her merhelek zewqekî selîm, edebekî iştîmaî, edebekî seqafî dide me. Every stage gives us a sound taste, a social culture, a cultural literature.
Em pê xweşî kefî/kêfa xwe dibînin, nav muştemaê xwe da, nav miletê xwe da. We find our happiness in it, within our society, within our nation.
Te gotina dawî heke hebe ez pirs kim... Te ev heqas mamosteyê me çêbûne, tu ji wan ra çi dibêjî? If you have a final word I'll ask... You [see] we have so many teachers now, what do you say to them?
Ezê wa pir zor spas dikim, û biraderê giştika zor spas dikim, û mamostê di me, zimanê Kurdî, giya zor spas dikim. I thank them very much, and I thank all the friends very much, and our teachers, of the Kurdish language, all of them I thank very much.
Xweş bin, hebin, û zêde bin, ne kêm bin. Pêşda herin şûnda neyên. Be happy, exist, and increase, do not decrease. Go forward, do not go back.
Em tehmî dikim û tebrîk dikim. Elhemdu lîllah em kêfxweşiya xwe dibînin. Em di rehetîyê dan e. I congratulate and bless. Thank God we see our happiness. We are in comfort.
Aman heye, selam heye. Ku her tiştek heye yanî. Teb'en ev tişta jî ne bixwe hat. There is safety, there is peace. That everything exists. Of course, this thing didn't come by itself.
Hineka xwîna mêjî di, hineka xwîna sîlahê di, hineka xwîna sîvîlqê di, zîndan dîn. Some gave intellectual blood, some gave weapon blood, some gave civilian blood, saw prisons.
Me çiqas da da... me çêdikirin... em diketin şketa hûr û elhemdu lîllah îro geşî avan dikin... hebe bijî Kurd û Kurdistan. How much we gave... we built... we fell into small caves and thank God today they build brightness... Long live Kurd and Kurdistan.
Gundê Celemê, nûjen bûye, û hema hema xaniyên kevnar nemane. Jalama Village has been modernized, and almost no ancient houses remain.
Piraniya xaniyên gund nûjen in, û bi endazyariyeke pêşketî hatine avakirin. Most of the village houses are modern, and built with advanced engineering.
Çar malbat di gund da hene: Malbata Nasirê Celîl, Îso, Kêlê, û Malbata Hebeşê Hemê. There are four families in the village: The family of Nasir Jalil, Iso, Kele, and the family of Habesh Heme.
Malbata Celîl ku wekî avakerê gund tê naskirin, û ji eşîra Celaliya ya memê Alan in. The Jalil family is known as the founder of the village, and they are from the Jalali tribe of Meme Alan.
Derdora heftsed xanî û hezar û dused kes li gund dijîn. Around seven hundred houses and one thousand two hundred people live in the village.
Û herwiha derdora dused û pêncî kesî jî li bajarê Efrînê niştecih bûne û li wir dijîn. And also around two hundred and fifty people have settled in Afrin city and live there.
Dibên caryê, bi dengekî ban kir, go dilê min tenê se car î tenê... They say the maid called out with a voice, saying my heart is lonely...
Lolo şivano serê me 'ebaye, bi qurban, û dilê min tenê se car î tenê. Hey shepherd, an abaya is on our head, I sacrifice, and my heart is lonely.
Dilê me 'ebaye xelkê ji te ra ne ji post e ne ji hesin e. Our heart/abaya for people is not of skin nor of iron.
Lolo şivano, mimirin biro navê min Gul e, ez namînim, gul sosin e. Hey shepherd, don't die brother, my name is Gul (Rose), I won't stay, the rose is a lily.
Bejna min nazik e, kibar e, fena taq rihanî xerîbî li ser e, lolo şivano ez bi qurban, av li bin e. My stature is delicate, elegant, like a basil stalk with strangeness on it, hey shepherd I sacrifice, water is below.
Hînû li çalîkan, deşta duzan, hila rewan e, loy loy... loy loy... loy loy... [Vocals about valleys and plains]... Loy loy...
Lolo şivano ez bi qurban, zîb û duşeb bêxudan o, miye eşter ra wînim yeka din e. Hey shepherd I sacrifice, [poetic lyrics about nights and owners], [lyrics about sheep].
Çiqa şivan û gavan hene, gişt zewicîne bi qicik û zarok in e. However many shepherds and herdsmen there are, all are married with children.
Têrê na be, ê tembel şivan, xelk û alemê mane, lolo şivano mimirin biro ez û te ne oy... It's not enough, oh lazy shepherd, people and the world remain, hey shepherd don't die brother, it's me and you...
Ay delûre, ay delûre... Ay delure (lullaby sound)...
Lolo şivano ez bi qurban, serê carê li dûr e lo lo... Hey shepherd I sacrifice, the head of the path is far...
Her bijî, dest û dengê te sax be. Spas bo hunermend Elî Dawûd. Long live, health to your hand and voice. Thanks to artist Ali Davud.
Tembûrvan Elî Şewket. Tembur player Ali Shewket.
Hunermend û dengbêj Elî Dawûd. Tu çi qas sal da ketî riya hunerê? Artist and bard Ali Davud. How many years have you entered the path of art?
Ez ketim riya hunerê, sala hezar û nehsed û heftê û şis yan... I entered the path of art, the year one thousand nine hundred and seventy-six or...
Bi cara yekê ez çûm 'edna rûzê Libnanê. For the first time I went to [daily labor in?] Lebanon.
Û ba'dê em ji Libnanê vegeriyan, girûpê me hebûn berê. And after we returned from Lebanon, we had a group before.
Li Efrînê jî, girûpê tevi seftah me çêkir, girûpek muzîka. In Afrin too, we made a group together, a music group.
Girûpa me selef, tembûr bû, dirbek bû, ûd bû, kemance bû, cimbiş bû. Our group's instruments were tembur, darbuka, oud, violin, cumbus.
Min sala hezar û nehsed û heftê û şis yan dest bi muzîkê kir. I started music in the year 1976 or [so].
Di wê demê da tu keyfa bî dengbêj... At that time which bard did you enjoy...
Dengbêj di wê demê da, mamosta qehremanê hunerî, xudanê dengê netewî, mamoste Cemîl Horo hebû. Bard at that time, teacher hero of art, owner of the national voice, Teacher Jamil Horo existed.
Elî Tico hebû, Beytaz hebû, Aliyê Kope hebû, Reşîdê Memçûçanê hebû, Meçdê Hemgulîn hebû, gelek hunermend hebûn. Ali Tico existed, Beytaz existed, Ali Kope existed, Rashid of Memchuchan existed, Mechd of Hemgulin existed, many artists existed.
Bes dandin û standina min, ê zêde zêde bi mamoste Cemîl Horo ra bû û Elî Tico ra bû. But my giving and taking [influence], was mostly with Teacher Jamil Horo and Ali Tico.
Te li kê guhdar dikir? Tesîr... Who did you listen to? Influence...
Ê pir tesîra min bû, tersa mamoste Cemîl Horo. Uh, my big influence was, the style of Teacher Jamil Horo.
Digel Tehsîn Taha jî dindo, Arif Cizrawî dindo, Meryem Xan, Ayşe Şan... Along with listening to Tahsin Taha, listening to Arif Cizrawi, Meryem Xan, Ayşe Şan...
Me gohdariya hunerê Kurdî hemû dikir. We listened to all Kurdish art.
Mamoste tu gişt dengbêjî jî, te dît ew... hunerê kevin jî û tu gişt anîn jî. Teacher, you [know] all bards, you saw that... old art too and you brought all...
Çi ferq heye? Te xwe di kî da dî? Te di dengbêjiyê da dî, te di hunerê... te di hunerê nû da xwe dî? What is the difference? Where did you see yourself? Did you see yourself in bardship, did you see yourself in... new art?
Huneraka kevn, a kevnator... Bi xwe ez aşiqê stranê kevnator im. An old art, an ancient one... Personally, I am in love with ancient songs.
Stranên tarîxî, dîrokî kurda tê da heye... Historical songs, Kurdish history is in them...
Ez diçûm cem hunermenda digeriyam, mamosta, dengbêja. I used to go looking for artists, masters, dengbêjs.
Me stran ji wan ra dibirin gelek... û min hafiz dikirin. We would often take songs from them... and I would memorize them.
Me... bes di wê derê da, li cem... berê... yanî mecal ji mer re tunebû. We... but in that place, with... before... meaning we didn't have the opportunity.
Me derxista mesela cejna Newrozê, dera... hafleke me çêkira, nahêştin. If we wanted to bring it out, for example, during Newroz celebrations, outside... if we threw a party, they wouldn't let us.
Ê dema te goştiya dengbêjiyê... yanî te kî dengbêj di civata te didî? So when you listened to dengbêjî... meaning which dengbêj was in your gathering?
Kê pişta te stran digotin? Berî te Cemlûyê bibînî yanî? Who sang songs in support of you? Before you saw Cemlû, that is?
Berî Cemlûyê bibînim xalê min dengbêj bû. Before seeing Cemlû, my maternal uncle was a dengbêj.
Di hat gundê me... berê meqrefon û vatî, qenadra tunebû. He would come to our village... back then there were no microphones, amps, or channels.
Civat çêdibûn, xalê min hebû û gelek dengbêj dihatin... Gatherings would take place, my uncle was there and many dengbêjs would come...
Niha ez navê wan... yek hebû Hisênê Tûpûvê ra digotin. Now I... [forget] their names... there was one called Hisênê Tûpûvê.
Di hat gundê me, civat, ciwan diçêbû, li dorfê... He came to our village, gatherings, youth gatherings would happen, around...
Ji êvarê heta sibê dibû stranek tenê digot, tarîxa wê, dîroka wê ji me re digot. From evening until morning, he might sing a single song, telling us its history, its story.
Di civat hebûn berê. There were gatherings back then.
Di gundê we de dengbêj hebûn? Were there dengbêjs in your village?
Di gundê me de tunebûn dengbêj. There were no dengbêjs in our village.
Tunebûn? None?
Tunebûn. Bes ew xalê xwe kir... None. But he made his uncle...
Xalê te ji kuderê bû? Where was your uncle from?
Ew xalê min l’ Hucemalo bû. That uncle of mine was from Hucemalo.
Dihat cem me, hew stranbêj bî, û stran çêdikirin, ez ji wî elimîm. He came to us, he was just a singer, and they made songs, I learned from him.
Ê pîş û povi ketim. And I followed in his footsteps.
Mamoste Elî, tu yê çi ji me re bêjî di dawiyê de? Mamoste Ali, what will you tell us at the end?
Ezê dawiyê bêjim: "Çi xweş e gundê me". I will say at the end: "How beautiful is our village".
Stran? Ok. A song? Ok.
Stran a min e. The song is mine.
"Çi xweş e gundê me, warê bav û kalê me." "How beautiful is our village, the land of our fathers and grandfathers."
"Çi xweş e gundê me." "How beautiful is our village."
Çi xweş e... Le nuh her yekî gundê xwe pê xweş e. How beautiful... Well, everyone loves their own village.
Yê me jî gundê me bi me xweş e. And for us, our village is beautiful to us.
Bi rastî gundê we xweş e. Truly your village is beautiful.
Li vir ji emê xatirê xwe bixwazin. Berî temaşevanên hêja... Here we will say our goodbyes. Before the dear viewers...
Li vir emê xatirê xwe jî bixwazin. Li vir em gihîştin dawiya bernameya xwe. Here we will say our goodbyes too. Here we have reached the end of our program.
Îro jî em li gundê Celal bûn. Today we were in the village of Celal.
Ka heya hefteyek din, emê dîsa berra bin, ka win û dengbêj Elî... kerem ke. Until another week, we will be broadcast again, here is you and Dengbêj Ali... please (go ahead).
(Singing) Çi xweş e gundê me, warê bav û kalê me. (Singing) How beautiful is our village, the land of our fathers and grandfathers.
(Singing) Pir xweş e gundê me, cîhê bav û kalê me. (Singing) Very beautiful is our village, the place of our fathers and grandfathers.
(Singing) Gul û çîçek û nêrgiz, xemla didin çayê me. (Singing) Roses, flowers, and narcissus, adorn our stream.
(Singing) Pir xweş e gundê me, ah, çi xweş e gundê me. (Singing) Very beautiful is our village, ah, how beautiful is our village.
(Singing) Pir xweş e gundê me, çi xweş e gundê me. (Singing) Very beautiful is our village, how beautiful is our village.
(Singing) Her carê ez têm gund, ji bo yara ser bilind. (Singing) Every time I come to the village, for the proud beloved.
(Singing) Çiqa gerîm li cîhanê... (Singing) However much I roamed the world...
(Singing) Çiqa gerîm li dinyayê. (Singing) However much I roamed the universe.
(Singing) Kes nedî wek te rind, ha, kes nedî wek te rind. (Singing) I saw no one as beautiful as you, ha, I saw no one as beautiful as you.
(Singing) Pir xweş e gundê me, cîhê bav û kalê me. (Singing) Very beautiful is our village, the place of our fathers and grandfathers.
(Singing) Pir xweş e gundê me, warê bav û kalê me. (Singing) Very beautiful is our village, the land of our fathers and grandfathers.
(Singing) Gul û çîçek û nêrgiz, xemla didin çayê me. (Singing) Roses, flowers, and narcissus, adorn our stream.
(Singing) Gul û çîçek û nêrgiz, xemla didin benê (bendê) me. (Singing) Roses, flowers, and narcissus, adorn our dam (embankment).
(Singing) Pir xweş e gundê me, ha, çi xweş e gundê me. (Singing) Very beautiful is our village, ha, how beautiful is our village.
(Singing) Gundê me berê piçûk bû, mala Zava yek bûk bû. (Singing) Our village was small before, the Groom's house had one bride.
(Singing) Bi xweşiya keç û xorta... (Singing) With the joy of the girls and boys...
(Singing) Gundê me mezin bû, ax, gundê me mezin bû. (Singing) Our village became big, oh, our village became big.