1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Na cîm derbaz bime... Rastî bawer bike ji zûda derbaz nebûme... Hinekî ditirsim jî. I won't go across... Honestly, believe me, I haven't crossed in a long time... I'm a little scared too. 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Tiştekî herî balkêş, zivistan e, sar e. Hinekî serma heye. The most interesting thing is that it is winter, it is cold. There is a bit of a chill. 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Em ê niha derbazî cem çirvana bibin. De ka em baverin, derbaz bin. We will now go over to the boatmen. Come on, let's believe and cross over. 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Em despêkê te nas bikin? Can we get to know you first? 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Raşîd. Rashid. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,000 Ser çava Raşîd. You are welcome, Rashid. 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Tu çirvan î? Are you a boatman? 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Erê. Yes. 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Hûn çend kes in di gundê Qerqozaxê de masîgiriya dikin? How many of you in the village of Qaraqozak do fishing? 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Wallah em didu ne. Em ne li gund didu ne. By God, there are two of us. We aren't two from the village [specifically]. 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Wek din jî hene. Gundî der û dorê me jî hene. There are others too. There are villagers around us as well. 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Ji kû derê tên? Where do they come from? 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Ji şahrê tên, ji Efrînê tên, ha wina tên... Havînê ekseriya xwe tên, biharê tên. They come from the city, they come from Afrin, they come like that... The majority come in the summer, they come in the spring. 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Bes em... daîm têdanin. Didu ji gund in. But we... are always in it. Two are from the village. 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,000 Gundî der û dorê me jî hene, ew jî daîm têdanin. There are villagers around us too, they are also always in it. 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Hewayê vê zivistanê zehmet e? Is the weather this winter difficult? 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Wallah zehmet e. Sar e, berf e, seqem e. By God, it is difficult. It is cold, snowy, and frosty. 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Îna berf li gundê we heye? Is there snow in your village right now? 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,000 Berf jî heye. There is snow too. 20 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Yanî em îro di hundirê... em derbasî nava avê dibin û berf û sar e. So today inside the... we are crossing into the water while it is snowy and cold. 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Wallah berf... By God, the snow... 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:08,000 Ji mêj ve me nedîbû. Berf axa zozanê sedî sed tê de dîtiye, a vê carê tê de dibîne. We hadn't seen it for a long time. The snow has definitely covered the plateau soil completely, this time it is witnessing it. 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Yanî sih û heşt sal in vê carê berf tê. Meaning, it's been thirty-eight years, and this time snow is coming. 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,000 Mamoste çi cûre masî hene di vir de? Sir, what kinds of fish are in here? 25 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Masiyê Bûrî heye, Kerb heye, Karsîn heye. There is Buri (Mullet), there is Carp, there is Karsin. 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,000 E... Beraq heye. Vêra dibêjin. Uh... There is Beraq. That's what they call them here. 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Em berê di Efrînê de jî hebûn. We used to have them in Afrin in the past too. 28 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Bes piştî vê avê şêbû şûnda... gî (hemû) bi nav bûn yanî. But after this water became murky... they all got mixed up/lost, basically. 29 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Çar, pênc nûre (cûre) ancax mane. Barely four or five types remain. 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,000 Mşext (Mişext/Mişe) heye? Are there Mshekht (Locally specific fish/Carp)? 31 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Mişext... Demîş nabe. Serma pir bû, salê serma pir bû, demîş nabe. Mshekht... They don't thrive/survive. The cold was severe, the cold of the year was severe, they don't thrive. 32 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Rojê çiqas kîlo berhev dikin? Çend kîlo? How many kilos do you collect a day? How many kilos? 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Wallah gava xweş be, serma tune be, seqem tune be, berf tune be... By God, when it is nice, no cold, no frost, no snow... 34 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Ro heye deh kîlo, panzdeh kîlo, bîst kîlo, pênc kîlo... There are days with ten kilos, fifteen kilos, twenty kilos, five kilos... 35 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Niha ev şeş roj e em vala têne. Now, for these six days, we have been coming back empty. 36 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Dabara we jî tê de tê? Does your livelihood come from it too? 37 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Dabara me jî tê de tê û rind jî tê. Our livelihood comes from it, and it comes well. 38 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,000 Masî bi çiqasî difroşin? For how much do you sell the fish? 39 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Em masiyê hûr bi pêncsedî difroşin, û ê gir bi hezarî difroşin. We sell the small fish for five hundred, and the big ones for a thousand. 40 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Difroşin kû derê, vî masiyan? Where do you sell these fish? 41 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Wallah em difroşin... Şahrê, Efrîn, tên... By God, we sell... The City, Afrin, they come... 42 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Yani bi xwe tên ba we, li vir dibin? Meaning they come to you themselves, taking them from here? 43 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Bi xwe tên, telefon me dikin, em wa'de didinê... They come themselves, they call us, we give them an appointment... 44 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Em ji mêj têdanin. We have been in this [business] for a long time. 45 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,000 Çend sal heye? How many years has it been? 46 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Bûye... du-sê sal niha têda me. Hene... It's been... I've been in it for two-three years now. There are [others]... 47 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Hene jî deh-panzdeh sal in têda hene, bîst sal, deh-heşt sal tê hene. There are also those who have been in it for ten-fifteen years, twenty years, eighteen years. 48 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Yanî despêkê sê de da hene. Meaning they have been here since the beginning of the dam [construction]. 49 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Hûn çend saetan di nav avê de dimînin? How many hours do you stay in the water? 50 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Du saet in. It is two hours. 51 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Tenê du saet hûn di nav avê de dimînin? Only two hours you stay in the water? 52 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Wallah gava ba tune be, karê me zû xelas dibe. By God, when there is no wind, our work finishes quickly. 53 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Gava ro heye, ba hebe... karê me dereng dimîne. When there is sun, if there is wind... our work runs late. 54 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Gelo ba heye? Is there wind? 55 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Îro ba heye, em dereng man îro. Today there is wind, we stayed late today. 56 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,000 E... mihim ez dixwazim... deqê çêkim, em jê avê derkevin. Uh... anyway I want to... fix the spot/net, so we can get out of the water. 57 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Av çiqa avê hebe, nohqa me maye. However much water there is, our dive remains. 58 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Nohqa me maye, em ê jê avê derkevin. Our dive remains, [then] we will get out of the water. 59 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Yekî sîwan... em jê avê derkevin. A protected area... we will get out of the water. 60 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Yekî sîwan em jê avê derkevin. A protected area, we will get out of the water. 61 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Û hene... kesên ku hene tên şebekê cer... Wa şebeka... And there are... people who come with drag nets... Those nets... 62 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Tînin, tê de dixînin, difitilînin, dikişînin derva. They bring them, put them in, twist them, and pull them out. 63 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Dikişînin derva, masiyê sîsiyê, çorê jî, masî bizer (bi zirar) tê. They pull them out, the Sisi fish, the Chora too, the fish comes damaged. 64 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Bizer bar dide. Dikeve ber şebekê, derdikeve derva, giyan xelas dibe. It yields damage. It falls into the net, comes out, and its life ends. 65 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Yanî divê (gerek) wisa nekin? Meaning they shouldn't do that? 66 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Gerek wisa nebe. It shouldn't be like that. 67 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Bi nîspet (bi nesîbet) kêmbûn dibe. Relatively, a decrease happens. 68 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Bizer... gava derxist derva xera bû, kêmî mese jê hinekî dibe. Waste... when taken out it gets ruined, the quantity decreases a little from it. 69 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Yanî em du sal, sê sal e, hifaz dikin (diparêzin) ser vî... avê... vê helîna. I mean, for two years, three years, we have been protecting this... water... this nesting ground. 70 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Kêmiya (hejmar) zêde pirr nebe. So the shortage doesn't become too great. 71 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Ez rojê pênc kîlo digrim, ez ê deh-panzdeh kîlo bigrim, bîst kîlo bigrim. I catch five kilos a day, [if protected] I would catch ten- fifteen kilos, twenty kilos. 72 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Şebekê te çend metre ye? How many meters is your net? 73 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Şebekê min... pêncî heye, sed heye. My net... there is fifty, there is a hundred. 74 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Û qiyas in. Dav-heşt, ê hefte, sî û pênc, çil... And they are sizes. Eight-mesh, seven-mesh, thirty-five, forty... 75 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:38,000 A masî me yê ha vaye, di ber şebekê da ne. Ez ê dikişînim. See, our fish are like this, they are in the net. I'm pulling it. 76 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,000 Ê mezin pirtir kîjan in, hene di nava wan de? Which are the bigger ones mostly, are there any among them? 77 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Ê pir şekal in (biçûk in). Ê pir havna (havne) dişixûlin. Most are small ones. Most of these ones work/are active. 78 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Ê pir bûrî mara dişixûlin. Most of the Buri fish work for us. 79 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Ê bûrî mara dişixûlin. The Buri fish work for us. 80 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:55,000 Ba ye, tama (tehma) bê têne... Bû me dûr avêt, xistilî ne. It is wind, the taste of wind comes... The wind threw us far, it is turbulent. 81 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Ey quwat be, spas dikim. May you have strength, thank you. 82 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,000 Sax be. Be healthy. 83 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Ka em hinekî vegerin. Let's go back a little. 84 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Hêjayî gotinê ye ku du gund bi heman navî hene. It is worth mentioning that there are two villages with the same name. 85 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,000 Qerqozaxa Biçûk ku bi navê Derwêş tê naskirin. Little Qaraqozak, which is known by the name Dervish. 86 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Û Qerqozaxa Mezin jî, an gundê... And Big Qaraqozak as well, or the village of...