1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Tiştê wan yê bav û kalada, bi sed sala damayî ye, ji mera pêşkêş dikin. They are presenting us with things from their ancestors, remaining for hundreds of years. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Emê destpêkê bi hevra nasbikin. Merheba ji wera. Let's first get to know each other. Hello to you. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Merheba ser seran. Hello, you are welcome. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Em wa nasbikin? Can we get to know you? 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,000 Navê min Mistefa ye. My name is Mustafa. 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Serçavê min. You are welcome (lit: on my eyes). 7 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Ez ji gundê Remezan a me. I am from the village of Ramazana. 8 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Emê ji wera tiştê xwe yê ku sed sala damayî ji wera xeberdin. We will tell you about our things that have remained for a hundred years. 9 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Heka be yara dê bêjim berî ku aş bikevin, ev bi desta pê ar diherdin. If I were to tell the friend, before mills appeared, with this, they ground flour by hand. 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Yanî berî aşabû? Meaning this was before mills? 11 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Berî aşa bû. It was before mills. 12 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Navê wî çiye? What is its name? 13 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Navê wî... destar... destar e. Aşê desta ye. Its name is... destar (quern)... it is a destar. It is a hand mill. 14 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Bi desta bû. Aş berî aşê ku aletê derkevin, eva bi desta bû. It was by hand. The mill, before the mills with machines came out, this was by hand. 15 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Çiqas sal daye? How old is it? 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Pir kevne em nizanin çiqas sal e. It is very old, we don't know how many years. 17 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Em salê nîkanin tehdîd kin. We cannot determine the year. 18 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 We çawa dikir? Ka ji mera bêje. How did you do it? Tell us. 19 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Me îştedam nekir. I haven't used it (personally). 20 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,000 Hê? Huh? 21 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Me îştedam nekir. O dar dikeve viderê kû... o... I haven't used it. Look, the wood (handle) goes in here where... look... 22 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Eyb nîe sobetê bê, ar dê da... hewa hano... tîtik tê da dan. There is no shame in saying it, the flour gave... look here... grains are put inside. 23 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,000 O, hano dar dikeve viderê... aletê xwe hene. Hano. Dikeve viderê. Look, here the wood goes in here... it has its own tools. Here. It goes in here. 24 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,000 Yanî berî destar... berî... Meaning before the destar... before... 25 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,000 Berî destar a ye, berî giya ye. It is before the destar, it is before everything. 26 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Destpêkê ev bûn? In the beginning, were these the ones? 27 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Destpêkê ev bûn. In the beginning, these were the ones. 28 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,000 Piştî vî çi bûn destar? What came after this destar? 29 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Piştî wî bûn aşê avê. Hewa aşê, î î erde. After that came the water mills. Look at the mill, the one on the ground. 30 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,000 Piştî wî bûn aşê, tenê her avê digerin, ne motor der tinnebûn. After that came the mills, they only turned by water, there were no motors or anything. 31 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Piştî aşê avê? After the water mill? 32 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Paşê motor der derketin, aşê hedîsî çêbûn. Later motors appeared, modern mills were made. 33 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,000 U destar kengî bûn? And when were the hand mills? 34 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Destar, lez o, destar jî... çi kevnda dane. The hand mill, well, the hand mill too... gave in the old times. 35 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,000 Destar ez bawer dikim ji berî aşan bû. I believe the hand mill was before the (water) mills. 36 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Berî aşa bî lê. It was before the mills, yes. 37 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Destar ji berî aşa bû. The hand mill was before the mills. 38 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Destpêkê ji berî aşa bî lê? Hewa yî berî aşê avê ye. Paşê bî destar. Was the beginning before the mills? Look, this one is before the water mill. Then came the hand mill. 39 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Paşê bûn aşê avê. Paşê, aşê din hedîs e bi dar û dang derketin. Then came the water mills. Then, the other modern mills with huge noises came out. 40 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Jiber ku av jî derdora me pir bû, behsa aşa dikirin. Because water was plentiful in our area, they talked about mills. 41 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,000 A, aşê ber vê avî ye, vê çemî ra aş hebûn. Yes, the mill by this water, along this river there were mills. 42 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Aşê ser avê. Wek enefî kehrabê nuko ser ewe tîne ne? Mills on the water. Like the electricity turbine now brings it on top, right? 43 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Ê aşa jî eyn wî tûnî bî. Lê dixist, avê perê avê lê dixist, aş digeriya. The mill was exactly that way too. It hit, the water hit the blades of the water (wheel), the mill turned. 44 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,000 U soxî? We kengî bikar dianî? And the mortar (sox)? When did you use it? 45 00:01:54,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Soxî jî, berî ku va delî melîbna derkevin, bi mehra... ê hano bigre... hano, berkutan e... The mortar too, before these threshers and things came out, with the mallet... holding it here... here, it is a pounding stone... 46 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,000 Bi vî ra dê kutan. Didu... peya bûn o... ê pê dikutan. With this, they would pound. Two... men were there... who pounded with it. 47 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Genimê xwe, bilxurê xwe... berê delîb der tinnne bûn. Their wheat, their bulgur... before threshers existed. 48 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Digihiştê? Did it suffice? 49 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,000 Egîşta me lê. It sufficed for us, yes. 50 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,000 We çi digot? Demê we dikuta we digot çi? What did you say? When you were pounding, what did you say? 51 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Didiyo dikutan... yek weş e bo hano xurt e hano bila werin... werin ber destê ya ha. Two were pounding... one is nice, look here it's strong, let them come... come to the hand here. 52 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Yek ji mobeyna herdida rûdinişt. One sat between the two. 53 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Î, î rûniştî mobeyna herdu digo "su çi çi". The one, the one sitting between the two said "su chi chi" (rhythmic sound). 54 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,000 "Su çi çi", me'na "su çi çi" ew no... wehşê xwe dibe, wan têne. "Su chi chi", the meaning of "su chi chi" is that... he takes his breath/energy, bringing them. 55 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Yek lêdixê, yek radike. One hits, one lifts. 56 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Ku aletê me digot tînyorim, hewa hano... tîm tê ba dan... O, hano dor dikeve viderê... aletê xwan e. If the tool, we said tînyorim (specific part?), look here... the pestle hits the grain... Look, here the wood goes in here... these are their tools. 57 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Dikeve viderê. Hewa, berî destar a ne, berî giya. It enters here. Look, these are before the hand mill, before everything. 58 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Destpêkê hew bûn. In the beginning, these were the ones. 59 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Piştî wî bûn destar. After that came the hand mill. 60 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Piştî wî bûn aşê avê. Hewa aşê î erde. After that came the water mills. Look at the mill on the ground. 61 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Piştî wî bûn aşê her avê digerin ne motor der tinnne bûn. After that came the mills turning only by water, there were no motors. 62 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Lê dixî dê... "Su çi çi". Lê xî dê... "Su çi çi". You hit it... "Su chi chi". Hit it... "Su chi chi". 63 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Kalê me digot tînyorim, hewa o, ji wan harda pirterr radibê. Xêre tîm dan dikê. Our elder said tînyorim, look at that, it rises higher than those two. The pestles hit each other. 64 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Radbîniya wî dida hekrê daye. Ne dipiya daye. The rhythm is in the waist. Not in the feet. 65 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,000 Yanî didiyo dikutan yek jî li kêlekê digot "su çi çi". Meaning two pounded and one on the side said "su chi chi". 66 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Êwa. Exactly. 67 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Temam, ka spas ji wera, ka cinda kerem kin vegerin. Okay, thank you to you, please kindly return. 68 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Ka em nêkê ji dayikê jî bipirsin. Let's ask the mother (elder woman) a bit too. 69 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Dayê merheba ji wera jî. Mother, hello to you too. 70 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome. 71 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Sax be dayê. Be healthy, mother. 72 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,000 Te jî sax be. You be healthy too. 73 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,000 We jî berê dikutan? Did you also pound in the past? 74 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Ee, em çûçik bûn me nizanî, bes xudanê dêkê me, bavkê me, dikutan. Yes, we were small, we didn't know, but the owners of our mothers, our fathers, pounded. 75 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Ê bes vaye ez dibêm... Ah, but this is what I say... 76 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Digo "Hum hum dan e. Dan kutan e. Dan bilxur e, sox kevir e." Saying "Hum hum it is 'dan' (grain). It is pounding 'dan'. 'Dan' is bulgur, the mortar is stone." 77 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Hano. Like that. 78 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Telkû der... telkû gundî bîst, telder didu bîst... The pestle... the villager heard, the pestle was heard by two... 79 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Nê... milvî gundî nebîstî. No... this villager hasn't heard. 80 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Elfrîdê bavkê xo ra çûm çûçik bûm, ez qîçik bûm. I went with my father Elfrid, I was small, I was a little girl. 81 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,000 U hevşûra kirin me, şîvê çaxê did bîrê min du ye. And they made us work together, the time of supper is in my memory. 82 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Ê na tê bîra te? Diyo te wana dikutan? Ah, don't you remember? Did you see them pounding? 83 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:41,000 Lêêê! Erê no... destê te ji... didu zana wij dikuta, û yekê çêdikir ber. Nooo! Yes no... your hand from... two wise ones pounded it too, and one fixed it in front. 84 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,000 Hano çêdikirin ber, yane lvî gundî. Fixing it in front like this, meaning in this village. 85 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,000 U digotin... And they said... 86 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:51,000 Digotin "Su çi çi". Erê. Digotin "Su çi çi". Wayî kî bê "Su çi çi" va dihesiya ne. They said "Su chi chi". Yes. They said "Su chi chi". The one who says "Su chi chi", they were getting tired/breathing. 87 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Hewa va dihesî. Like that, he gets tired. 88 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Digo "Hum hum dan e, dan kutan e, dan bilxur e, sox kevir e." Saying "Hum hum it is 'dan', it is pounding 'dan', 'dan' is bulgur, the mortar is stone." 89 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Ka em dîsa kanê bêje, çawa... Let's again, where, say it, how... 90 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Ka jinda kerem ke, kerem ke vê. Please kindly, kindly do this. 91 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Ewane wese. Those are nice. 92 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Ha we bêjin ne? Li te bêjin. You say it like that, right? You say it. 93 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,000 No, ez ê bibêjim. No, I will say it. 94 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Tu bêje. You say it. 95 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,000 U hewcê tûmîq lêxin. And hit the pestle down there. 96 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Temam. Hit it. 97 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Temam. Okay. 98 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Ka min hew jî bêjin, tu jî bêje. Destpêkê tu bêje. Let them also say it, you say it too. First, you say it. 99 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 Dê bibêjin. Hum hum dan e. They shall say. Hum hum it is 'dan'. 100 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Hum hum dan e. Hum hum it is 'dan'. 101 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,000 Dan kutan e. It is pounding 'dan'. 102 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Dan kutan e. It is pounding 'dan'. 103 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Dan bilxur e. 'Dan' is bulgur. 104 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Dan bilxur e. 'Dan' is bulgur. 105 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Dan bilxur e. 'Dan' is bulgur. 106 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Sox kevir e. The mortar is stone. 107 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,000 Sox kevir e. The mortar is stone. 108 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Hum hum dan e. Hum hum it is 'dan'. 109 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Dan kutan e. It is pounding 'dan'. 110 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Dan bilxur e. 'Dan' is bulgur. 111 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000 Dan bilxur e. 'Dan' is bulgur. 112 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Sox kevir e. The mortar is stone. 113 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Hum hum dan e. Hum hum it is 'dan'. 114 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,000 Dan kutan e. It is pounding 'dan'. 115 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Dan bilxur e. 'Dan' is bulgur. 116 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Sox kevir e. The mortar is stone. 117 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Hum hum dan e. Hum hum it is 'dan'. 118 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Dan kutan e. It is pounding 'dan'. 119 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,000 Dan bilxur e. 'Dan' is bulgur. 120 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,000 Sox kevir e. The mortar is stone. 121 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,000 Hum hum dan e. Hum hum it is 'dan'. 122 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,000 Spas ji wera. Thank you to you. 123 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Spas. Thanks. 124 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Spas ji wera. Thank you to you. 125 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Dayê bivê rengî bû. Mother, it was in this manner. 126 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,000 E. Yes. 127 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,000 We dema xwe jî derbas dikir, wextê xwe jî derbas dikir. You passed your time too, you spent your time. 128 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Wî demê jî ne dihesîn di gunda? Did they not get tired in the villages at that time? 129 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Ê demkê çi bihesin? Îşta karê malê bû û wisa em... Oh, for a time, why get tired? Look, it was housework and so we... 130 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,000 Dayê we çi dikir? Mother, what did you do? 131 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Me diçûn karê, dê hatin malê xwe. We would go to work, would come to our home. 132 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,000 Em keçik çi karî bikin qurban? We girls, what work could we do, my dear? 133 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,000 We çi kar dikir? What work did you do? 134 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Çi kar dikir... me pez didoşin, me zêtûn berhev dikirin, me şexre dikişandin, me ceh ceh dikutan, îşta me çi kar... çi kar hebî me hew dikir. What work did we do... we milked sheep, we gathered olives, we pulled the harrow/plough, we pounded barley, look whatever work... whatever work there was, we did it. 135 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,000 Em diftilîn gundê Remezan a. Heva Remezan a ye. We wandered in the village of Ramazana. This is Ramazana. 136 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Nanê xwe dikirin heban e. They put their bread in sacks (heban). 137 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Ne dixwarin, ne didan cîrana. Dî dinan pîşo mîvana. They didn't eat it, nor gave it to neighbors. They kept it before the guests. 138 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Wa spas dayê. No îne nanê xwe bidin me. Thank you mother. Now bring your bread and give it to us. 139 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Inşallah. God willing. 140 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Inşallah. God willing. 141 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,000 Spas ji wera jî. Thank you to you too. 142 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Saet xweş. Have a good time (lit: happy hour). 143 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Jiyana berê pir xweş bû? Was life in the past very good? 144 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,000 Jiyana berê pir xweş bû. Life in the past was very good. 145 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Jiyana rast... jiyana gundîtî pir xweş bû berê. True life... village life was very good in the past. 146 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Pir xweş bû. It was very good. 147 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Bê heye no, hew jiyana hîne xweş e. Surely now, that life is still good. 148 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Hîn xweş e û hîn jî heye welhemdu lillah û hîvî ye jiber çêtir bê inşallah. It is still good and it still exists, praise be to God, and the hope is that it becomes better, God willing. 149 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Ê mala we ava be, spas ji wera jî. May your home be prosperous, thank you to you too. 150 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 We te jî ava, ser xweşî. Spas ji wera jî. Yours be prosperous too, cheers. Thank you to you too. 151 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Saet xweş. Have a good time. 152 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Spas ji wera jî jibo xatirê we. Thank you to you too, for your sake. 153 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Saet ta xweş, oxir be, gula gula. Have a good time, bon voyage, flowers flowers (with joy). 154 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,000 U ser serê û çavê me. And upon our heads and our eyes (you are welcome). 155 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Spas dikim, saet a ta xweş. I thank you, have a good time. 156 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Xwedê ji te razî be û oxir be. May God be pleased with you and bon voyage. 157 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:59,000 Di demên berê da jî bo ku gel xwarinên xwe peyda bike, mirov gelek amûr afirandine. In past times as well, in order for the people to find their food, humans created many tools. 158 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Yek ji wan amûran sox e. One of those tools is the 'sox' (mortar). 159 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Ku ji bo çêkirina sevara xwarina zivistanê... bi kar tînin. Which they use for making 'sevar' (bulgur), the food of winter.