1 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Belê temaşvanên hêja, naha jî em derbasî ma'sereya tirî bûn e. Yes dear viewers, now we have moved on to the grape molasses press. 2 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Li gundê Omerxê em digeriyan, naha jî em gihîştine ma'sereyê. Naha jî emê bibînin... We were touring the village of Omerx, and now we have reached the molasses press. Now we will see... 3 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Rojbaş ji we re. Good day to you. 4 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:58,000 Ehlen we sehlen, rojtinê we ronahî, ehlen we sehlen, mîlatê serêm, ser serî me, ser çavê me. Welcome, may your day be bright, welcome, guests on my head, on our heads, on our eyes. 5 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Wey spas, em destpêkê te nas bikin? Oh thanks, can we get to know you first? 6 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Ehlen we sehlen, navê min Dawûd e. Welcome, my name is Dawud. 7 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Oy serçavê min apê Dawûd. You are welcome Uncle Dawud. 8 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,000 Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome. 9 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Xwedê te bihêle, dest û pêyên te sax bin. May God keep you, may your hands and feet be healthy. 10 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,000 Îro em mêvanê gundê we ne, em derbas bûn, emê hinekî vî karî bikin. Today we are guests in your village, we passed by, we will do a little bit of this work. 11 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Mîlatê serêm, emê hemû vî tiştî kar dikin. Mîlatê selamê. Guests on my head, we all do this work. Guests of peace. 12 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Em hatin dema te dîtibû Ûmer a... em hatin... ma'sere te bîra me anî. We came when you saw Umer... we came... you reminded us of the molasses press. 13 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Te got ma'sereya tirî li vira heye. You said there is a grape molasses press here. 14 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Ma'sereya dimsê. Molasses press. 15 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,000 Me jî meraq kir, îro em derbasî cem we bûn. We were curious too, so today we came to visit you. 16 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Ê ehlen we sehlen, rojtinê we ronahî. Well welcome, may your day be bright. 17 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Em hinekî behs bikin, ev ma'sere ji kevn da li ciye, yan berê da ma'sere din hebûn? Let's talk a little, has this press been here since old times, or were there other presses before? 18 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:36,000 Ji berê da ma'seret ji tehtan çêkirî bûn, ji tehtan çêkirî bûn, dijivlandin, belengaz dijivlandin. Since old times presses were made of rock, made of rock, they used to press, poor people used to press. 19 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Ê şade... şade ne hewno bûn. And the basins... the basins were not like this. 20 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Ji şevê dikirin ke'kûr, didan ser hevdû... diguvastin. At night they would make piles, put them on top of each other... and press them. 21 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Ê paşê, piştyî wî, hew derketin. Then, after that, these came out. 22 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,000 Hewno rind bûn, meşîn yanî. These were good, machines essentially. 23 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Ê piştyî wî, me hedîs kir, me heva çêkir, vayî ev. And after that, we modernized it, we made this one, here it is. 24 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Ev jî rind e, meqbûl e, rind e. This is also good, acceptable, good. 25 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Ew navê xwe çine? What is the name of that? 26 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Ew nav... yek jimar e? That name... is it a single number? 27 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Şade, şadeyê kefen evok. Basin, that is an old basin. 28 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Şadeyê kevin? Old basin? 29 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Şadeyê kevin... heva a ecem çêkirî, hedîs, ser deqê zeytê, piston e. Old basin... this one is newly made, modern, on the principle of oil (presses), it is a piston. 30 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,000 Ê rind e. It is good. 31 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Awa ew axa din çi ye? And what is that other earth? 32 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Heva jî carûş e, bedelî tê pêlênê, tê bilind go... This is the crushing floor, instead of stomping on it, it comes up high... 33 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Li carûşê dikeve. It falls into the crushing floor. 34 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Ji wî sehî tire, ji wî çêtire, ji lingan. It is cleaner than that, better than that, than feet. 35 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Belê, nah em dîtin gelek gund, tizanî? Hine ew ma'sereyê kevn hene. Yes, we have seen many villages, you know? Some have those old presses. 36 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,000 Hene, erê no millet tînin hene, erê. They exist, yes now people bring them, they exist, yes. 37 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Hine li ser tehta çêkirine, ew... Some are made on rocks, those... 38 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,000 xestinê dikelînin, ew hinek pêl didin. I mean they boil it, some stomp on it. 39 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Ê... Yeah... 40 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Yanî hine ew gelek gund... yanî em yek çûn ji gundê Elindorê bi rastî yanî... I mean some, many villages... I mean we went to one in the village of Alindor actually... 41 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Hene, hene, heta noka hene. There are, there are, until now there are. 42 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Rojbaş bû em çûn gundê Elindorê, ew diyon e. It was good day we went to Alindor village, they saw it. 43 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Hene, hene. There are, there are. 44 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Gelek gund jî hene yanî. There are many villages too, actually. 45 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Em diçûn Dîdanê... Dîdan pêşiya me xerab bû, diviya wê derê. We used to go to Dîdan... Dîdan was destroyed before us, it went there. 46 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Kîderê ye evok? Where is this place? 47 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Dîdan, şerqî Ezazê dikeve, hûdûdê Tirkiyê. Dîdan, it falls east of Azaz, the Turkish border. 48 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Gund e? Is it a village? 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Gund e, gund e. Hewa cihê dimse, şeş heft ma'sere, mentîqe eyrfîn... teqîben î dimse xweş tiriya xweş ji wê derê dihat. It's a village, a village. That was the place of molasses, six or seven presses, Afrin region... approximately the good molasses and good grapes came from there. 50 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Ê piştyî ev hewas çêbû, şûnda req bûn. And after this situation happened, then they became comfortable. 51 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Ê me se kir, em kelxwe bexêrin. We looked, we are grateful to our elders. 52 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Ê mirovîş xora çêkir, û da hebab tên, da nîvan tên, xeyo gund tên, îşta hemî derbas dikin da. And man made it for himself, and friends come, neighbors come, brothers from the village come, so everyone passes through here. 53 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Naha ev ma'sere ya te tenê ye? Now is this press only yours? 54 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Ê ya min tenê ye erê. Yes, it is only mine. 55 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,000 Ha, û gund jî hemî tiriyê xwe tînin cem te? Ah, and does the whole village bring their grapes to you? 56 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Li gund... li gund tirî tine cem kesekî li gundê me. In the village... in the village no one has grapes in our village. 57 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Gundiyê te tirî tinen? Your villagers don't have grapes? 58 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Gundiyê me tirî tinen... hene, îşî, ê pênc mêwa, sed mêwa, boş mesela yanî. Our villagers don't have grapes... there are, like, five vines, a hundred vines, empty really. 59 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Ê ji kîjan gunda tên cem te? So from which villages do they come to you? 60 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Ji her gunda tên... tên mesela ji Bêrganê da bigire, Dêrs... They come from every village... they come for example starting from Bêrgan, Dêrs... 61 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Dêr Siwanê? Dêr Siwan? 62 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Ê nav çiya wan... Şehba tên... Yes inside the mountains... they come from Şehba... 63 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Belê dem... eynî waha... Yes time... exactly like that... 64 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Yanî wî gundan ma'sere tinen hene? I mean don't those villages have presses? 65 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,000 Nah, wek Bêrganê ma'sere wan jî ez zanim heye. No, like Bêrgan, I know they have presses too. 66 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,000 Na a Bêrganê tine ye. No, the one in Bêrgan doesn't exist. 67 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,000 Tine ye? Doesn't exist? 68 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Tine ye na. Doesn't exist, no. 69 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Kîjan gundan hene? Which villages have them? 70 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:52,000 Ê welle dibêjin yek li Qestelê heye, li Kuderê heye, ez nizanim bidebet, bes wina çêra dibêjin. Well they say there is one in Qestel, one in Kuder, I don't know exactly, but that's what they say. 71 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Ew ma'sere lora nemane? Those presses haven't remained there? 72 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Hew ma'sered kevin, wana ji texta çêkirine, nemane... Those old presses, the ones they made from rocks, haven't remained... 73 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Çiyê noka işta yekî vî çîmento û dar çêdikin, şade, dar, ana yekî woyî... anaha ye. What is now, like someone makes this with cement and wood, basin, wood, like someone like this... it is like this. 74 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Naha ew kîjan tirî dibe dims? Now which grape becomes molasses? 75 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:14,000 Tiriyê dukulganê kevin, dimsê xwe jî gîç e, tir e. The old Dukulgan grape, its molasses is thick, it is dense. 76 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Ê... hew ê tîr dibe. Esmer dibe. Yeah... that one becomes dense. It becomes dark. 77 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Kîjan a? Which one? 78 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Ê Zehlawî, amber dibe. The Zahlawi, it becomes amber. 79 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:29,000 Ê voyî Frensî, hewa kele pir dixwaze, hew jî paşê diftile, çiqas tu bikelînî, ser mize dînê ye, ê Frensî. The French one, this one needs a lot of boiling, that one also turns later, no matter how much you boil it, it depends on its nature, the French one. 80 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Dimsê rind, êz ê dukulganê kevin e. The good molasses, I (say) is the old Dukulgan. 81 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,000 Hewa dimsê gund e rind e? Is the village molasses good? 82 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Hewa, temî wî, hemîya dikin dims. That one, its taste, they make all of them into molasses. 83 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Hewa, hewa ji berê da dibê ê dims e. That one, that one since the past they say it is for molasses. 84 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Ê bes noka em çi dikin, da voyî Zehlawî, voyî Frensî, ê xera dibê netê firuton, gî dibê dims. Black molasses. 85 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Ê bes noka em çi dikin, da voyî Zehlawî, voyî Frensî, ê xera dibê netê firuton, gî dibê dims. But now what we do, the Zahlawi, the French, people say it doesn't sell, all of it becomes molasses. 86 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Hawa farîqî lonî gine esmer dibe. That one, the difference in color is a bit darker. 87 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Tizanî berê, li piyan didan, hinek jî dikin tûr? You know before, they used to stomp with feet, do some also use bags? 88 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Ê dikin tûr jî yanî. Yes they use bags too. 89 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 Ew gelek tiştî mirovî... That is a very human thing... 90 00:04:55,000 --> 00:05:00,000 Yasî ti... temam gundiyara ew netê gifiştin, dikirin tûr pêlê didan e. Wait... okay for the villagers that couldn't be pressed, they put in bags and stomped on it. 91 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Ê woyî pêlê didan, di pêlênê ne sahiye. And those who stomped, in shoes, it's not clean. 92 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Yê hayê dirnoqê gindan e pîs e, yê hayê dirnoqê xwe dirêj e... na sahiye. There are the villagers' fingernails which are dirty maybe, there are those with long nails... it's not clean. 93 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Ê havo noka seke, me hana kirî, me'ne pêlênan tûzme, lepis destî gîndiyo da... But this now look, we did it like this, meaning boots for footwear, gloves on the villagers' hands... 94 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Yanî ma'ne sahiye yanî, pak bûn yanî. Havo çimkî dims e, merov dixwe, milet dixwe yanî. I mean it is clean, pure. Because this is molasses, people eat it, the nation eats it. 95 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Ê nah rojê çend seatan kar diket? So now how many hours a day does it work? 96 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Welle sibe saet heştan em di şuxulin, hesebi ini zehme, hesebi tirê yanî. Well, in the morning at eight o'clock we work, depending on the crowd, depending on the grapes. 97 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,000 Ba'z heta heştan, ba'z heta dawudiyo dere. Sometimes until eight, sometimes until late. 98 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Ba'z jî îkindi xelas dibe. Sometimes it finishes in the afternoon. 99 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,000 Te bîra men... demê zarok... rojê kî betiya xavara çim... You reminded me... when I was a child... the day I went for a nap... 100 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Cema gund hebu... yek nizanibû haya sibe ya man... There was one near the village... one didn't know until morning remained... 101 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,000 Bi heftan diman, bi heftan. Bi heftan ser ma'serê diman. They stayed for weeks, for weeks. They stayed for weeks at the press. 102 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Ê noka na, her roj diçin tiriyê xwe danîn, dibirin ser vê ma'serê... But not now, every day they go put their grapes, take them to this press... 103 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Û dema dora kêş da, diçû çêdikir. And when whose turn it was, they went and made it. 104 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Ê xoşgîniya tizanî herî baş têda çi bû? Gund bi hev ra bû alîkar. And the pleasantness, you know what was best in it? The village helped each other. 105 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:01,000 Dema tirî kê danî, ew gund jî ver bû alîkar, ew dimsa çêdikir. When someone put down grapes, that village also came to help, they made that molasses. 106 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Bi hevdira harî dikirin. They helped each other. 107 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Çûnke çûçik bûn, bofkê min... rezê mel vider no hebûn... Because we were small, my father... there were no vineyards around here... 108 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,000 Bi şilîf, bi kerê me dikişan ser vê ma'serok me î çûçik li viderê hebûn, gunê kolîma da... With sacks, with donkeys we pulled to this press, we had a small one here, in the corner of the alley... 109 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Bi kerê, bi şilîfa me danî, boş dikir, dijivlandin, bi hefta emkê timî... tirlok tera bijivlînin... çêkin bi dims kin. With donkeys, with sacks we put it, emptied it, pressed it, for weeks we would... constantly... press it enough... make it into molasses. 110 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Zehmetî hebu? Was there difficulty? 111 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Zehmet e, pir zehmet bî. Hevo noka serî e. It is difficult, it was very difficult. This now is fast. 112 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Ruyê deha ter lewaren. Bîznê Xwedê... berka dibê, dibê dims û dibê dikeve teneko, ruyê dergo. The means of living are plentiful in the area. By God's permission... it becomes a blessing, becomes molasses and falls into tins, the face of the harvest. 113 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Nah ma'serê da, gerek jin jî hebin ha? Ez dibînim jin tinen e. Now in the press, there should be women too, right? I see there are no women. 114 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Na jin mennû ye viderê. No women are forbidden here. 115 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Jin nikarin kar nakin? Women can't do the work? 116 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Ê karî gino tinen. There is no heavy work. 117 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Gî biye mêra? It has all become for men? 118 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:45,000 Gî biye îşta yê mêra îşta. It has all become men's business now. 119 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Û li vê şiyê jî dikelînin? And in this place do they also boil it? 120 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Li ji viderê li carûş dikeve, li viderê şade dikeve. From here it falls into the crushing floor, here it falls into the basin. 121 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Li viderê tê jur... Here it comes up... 122 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Ji jor da re hule qetandine. From up there it's the side of separating. 123 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Ji wuderê qetî bu, solê dibê. From there it separated, it becomes clear. 124 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Safî şunda, orta ye dimse, li hula do jî dikelî se hula. After clarifying, it's the middle of molasses, on the other side it boils in three places. 125 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Ew çiqasî berxwe de, heya dikeli? How long does it take, until it boils? 126 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Welle teqrîben barxwe dide teqrîben di saet nîvo, sê saeto barxwe dide. Well approximately it takes about two and a half hours, three hours it takes. 127 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Heya dikeli? Tîr dibe. Until it boils? It becomes thick. 128 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Heta dibê dims, teqrîben sê saeto barxwe dide. Until it becomes molasses, it takes approximately three hours. 129 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Sê saeto barxwe dide. It takes three hours. 130 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Timî agir vêketî ye? Is the fire constantly lit? 131 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,000 Timî orîginde jî me kine. It is always a big fire. 132 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:25,000 Tiştê min dikin... The things we do... 133 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,000 Piştî bû dims, em boş vê soleno dikin. After it becomes molasses, we empty it into these coolers. 134 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Ma'ne sor bibe. So that it becomes cold. 135 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Ba'dî sor bu şunda jî, em dikin teneko. After it becomes cold, we put it in tins. 136 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Çûnke bigermî teneko keve, xo didê, zingar digre, te'mê dimsê xerab digere. Because if it goes into the tin hot, it expands, it rusts, the taste of the molasses goes bad. 137 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Û xwediyê kî bê tê dibe? And whoever the owner is takes it? 138 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:46,000 Ê xodanî ginde, ê kî be meselen, wara qemoz miştek ser teneko digre, meselen... Yes the owner from the village, whoever it is for example, come puts a mark on the tin, for example... 139 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Havo zime te ye, havo ê filanî ye, havo ê filanî ye, herkes zimê xo dibe. This is your property, this is so-and-so's, this is so-and- so's, everyone takes their property. 140 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Naha dims bi çiye, buhayê erzan e? Now what is the molasses price, is it cheap? 141 00:07:53,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Welle keka haliya noka, bi şeş nîvan farq difroşim. Yanî yekî heye di teneka, sê teneka, bi şeş nîvan difroşe. Well brother currently now, I sell with a difference of six and a half. Meaning someone has a tin, three tins, sells for six and a half. 142 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Tenekê? Şeş hezar û pêncsidî? A tin? Six thousand five hundred? 143 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Erê, şeş hezar pêncsid. Yes, six thousand five hundred. 144 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Ê çiqasî têda heye? And how much is in it? 145 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Darda kîlo. Twelve kilos. 146 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Donzdeh? Twelve? 147 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Wa keka ticara jî işta porîkî misadayê, ma'ne hew jî îstîfade bibînin hew jî... Yes. 148 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Wa keka ticara jî işta porîkî misadayê, ma'ne hew jî îstîfade bibînin hew jî... Well brother, also a bit of allowance for the traders, so they can also benefit, they also... 149 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,000 Mala te ava be. May your home be prosperous. 150 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:17,000 Serê te sax be. May your head be healthy.